[HN Gopher] Anarchist Cookbook (1971) [pdf]
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Anarchist Cookbook (1971) [pdf]
Author : brudgers
Score : 107 points
Date : 2023-01-14 12:58 UTC (10 hours ago)
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| chris1993 wrote:
| I had a holiday job at the police forensics lab library in
| Auckland in the early 80s. This was one of the many documents
| that had been confiscated by police and carefully catalogued and
| stored away.
| lampshades wrote:
| I remember downloading this and something published by some
| Islamic group on Freenet almost (or exactly?) 20 years ago. Never
| read either of them. I just wanted them because I wasn't supposed
| to have them.
|
| Edit: really makes you feel old when you start talking about
| things you did 20 years ago on the internet.
| itronitron wrote:
| 20 years ago was still 21st century, if that helps you feel any
| better.
| kstrauser wrote:
| No, 20 years ago was well back in...
|
| Oh dear.
| brudgers wrote:
| I read my older brother's borrowed copy when I was in junior
| high. Me and two buddies went to the Ace Hardware and bought
| more than a dozen packets of morning glory seeds and then some
| cheese cloth at the Publix in the shopping center across
| Michigan Ave. June, 1980.
| abruzzi wrote:
| i had a copy back in the early 80s. Made the mistake of
| lending it to somone and never got it back. It was notorious
| as a book that once borrowed, was never returned. I've hear
| from many other people who lent it then lost it. I wonder if
| your brother ever returned it?
| brudgers wrote:
| I have a memory of its return, but it has been a few years.
| But I know it left after a few weeks, and then at the end
| of summer he went off to UF.
| codetrotter wrote:
| Maybe his brother is the one that borrowed it from you
| :thinking_party:
| jonathankoren wrote:
| Usually these things end up with instructions like:
|
| How to make a car bomb:
|
| Ingredients:
|
| 1 car
|
| 1 bomb (large)
|
| Directions: Mix.
|
| That may be practical instructions if you're in a war zone, but
| getting four live 105 mm artillery rounds is bit harder in the
| suburban United States
| daveslash wrote:
| How to make a time machine:
|
| Ingredients: 1 car. 1 Plutonium powered flux capacitor. Mix.
|
| " _Doc, are you telling me this sucker 's nuclear? Doc, you
| don't just walk into a store and-and buy plutonium! Did you
| rip that off?_"
| alex_young wrote:
| I remember 30 years ago, when I had just started using the
| internet, that all one had to do to feel rebellious was to send
| a bit of data using so called "strong encryption". You could
| even get shirts with this stuff printed on them.
|
| And talking about the internet decades ago doesn't make us old
| at all, it just gives us a little more perspective.
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars
| runsonrum wrote:
| I can remember things I've done before there was internet,
| barely ;-)
| WalterBright wrote:
| > really makes you feel old when you start talking about things
| you did 20 years ago on the internet
|
| That only gets worse.
| danesparza wrote:
| ^^ This.
| worik wrote:
| > that only gets worse.
|
| Better than the alternative
| IAmGraydon wrote:
| It's funny how I loved reading the AC as a kid in the early 90s
| vs now how I wouldn't even click that link due to the
| surveillance state we live in. If you've ever wanted to see a
| panopticon in action, just look around.
| squarefoot wrote:
| Or maybe everyone clicks on it so that the surveillance lists
| are polluted by false positives, forcing lazy spies to actually
| investigate real criminals and not just geeky curious people. I
| just did: From page 114 ("How to make mercury fulminate"), 1st
| line of the recipe says "take 5 grams of pure mercury and mix
| it with 35 ml of nitric acid".
| GTP wrote:
| I found it funny to see a copiright notice inside such a book :D
| zxcvbn4038 wrote:
| Hehe, I remember finding an "underground" bookstore that
| published all of this stuff. It made for fun reading and was a
| great conversation starter. I was even watching Nightmare on Elm
| Street and the girl was setting booby traps for Freddy and I was
| like holy smokes, this is pretty much Poor Man's James Bond in
| chapter order.
|
| But I never made any of this stuff so I can't say if the recipes
| are valid or not, but at the time of their release the US was
| much more concerned by communists then terrorists and this seems
| like the sort of thing they'd sprinkle out there so that
| patriotic hero types could wage a war of insurrection and
| attrition if ever needed to defend the country from an
| occupation.
| KMag wrote:
| In the late 1990s, MIT's East Campus dorm organized an annual
| Sodium Drop from the Longfellow Bridge. (Later discontinued after
| a chunk of sodium survived, oxidized to concentrated lye, and
| chemically burned an unfortunate clean-up worker who mistook it
| for styrofoam.) As I remember, the MC of the event would first
| throw 500g of some foodstuff (I forget which) into the river for
| comparison, and then throw 500g of metallic Sodium into the
| river.
|
| At least one year, I remember them following up the Sodium with a
| salute made with a similar mass of TATP (apparently called
| "Mother of Satan" by Hamas, due to its tendency to detonate
| during manufacture). A friend of mine described the assembly line
| process they used for making the TATP. It sounded like they had
| several kg of TATP out drying on baking sheets at one time. My
| understanding that around that time, TATP was the most common
| filler for HAMAS suicide vests. I don't think it took very many
| kg to blow up a whole bus. Batshit insane.
| euroderf wrote:
| Tried the stink bomb recipe but no dice. Anyone else had luck ?
| insane_dreamer wrote:
| A classic, but not one I'd want to have on my hard drive these
| days
| speedplane wrote:
| "Power is not a material possession that can be given, it is the
| ability to act. Power must be taken, it is never given."
|
| "'This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who
| inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing
| Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of
| amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or
| overthrow it.' Abraham Lincoln"
| issa wrote:
| This was a very exciting book to get my hands on as a teenager.
| Now I think this is the best take on it:
|
| https://thehardtimes.net/blog/recipes-anarchist-cookbook-tas...
| Giorgi wrote:
| Good old totse days.
| waynecochran wrote:
| Classic. Had a copy in high school in the 1980's. I always loved
| the warnings at the beginning of some of the instructions that
| went something like this: "do not create this -- it can be very
| dangerous... maybe lethal --- here is how you do it."
| brk wrote:
| Yup, gave my dot-matrix a good workout printing and selling
| copies!
| bluedino wrote:
| I remember passing a floppy disk with this on it before we got
| online.
|
| And I remember people lying about what they made and blew up etc
| h2odragon wrote:
| see also:
| https://archive.org/details/The_Poor_Mans_James_Bond_Vol_1_K...
| JoeyBananas wrote:
| I got in trouble for reading this on a school iPad in middle
| school.
|
| The anarchists cook book is severely outdated. Most of the info
| it contains is straight up fabricated. It's no longer worthy of
| the controversial reputation that it has.
| mingus88 wrote:
| The prevailing theory when I was in high school was that this
| AC was a honeypot.
|
| Anybody trying to order the misspelled chemical names in the AC
| to cook homemade explosives would get a visit from the FBI
|
| Even the size of it suggests that it's not an actual
| revolutionary manual. The thing was huge, and couldn't fit in a
| bookshelf. Not exactly something you could hand out and conceal
| if it wanted to do covert ops outlined in it like blowing
| bridges and sabatoge.
|
| It's like the only purpose it served was to be found and tip
| off who was interested in that stuff.
|
| And it also served to indoctrinate a generation of us that
| Anarchism as a social movement was nothing more than blowing up
| shit; illegal and violent by definition.
| alchemist1e9 wrote:
| > Even the size of it suggests that it's not an actual
| revolutionary manual. The thing was huge, and couldn't fit in
| a bookshelf. Not exactly something you could hand out and
| conceal if it wanted to do covert ops outlined in it like
| blowing bridges and sabatoge.
|
| What are you talking about, it's 160 pages. I remember
| carrying around a binder in my school backpack, it's fairly
| slim actually.
| edmundsauto wrote:
| My copy was a very tall book, black cover. I think this is
| what OP meant - not book length.
| alchemist1e9 wrote:
| Oh I see. I've only ever seen printed copies of it on
| regular sized paper.
| starkd wrote:
| In secondary school, I remember some people buying this book.
| You could not buy it off the shelf, but you could order it
| just fine. They were more interested in the drug recipes, but
| I don't think any of the recipes worked out or were
| practical.
| greesil wrote:
| The term "bomb throwing anarchist" has been around a lot
| longer than the cookbook.
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair
| mingus88 wrote:
| Yes the AC didn't start that bit of indoctrination, but
| renewed it for a new generation. It was published in the
| 70s when the counter culture was at it's strongest.
| greesil wrote:
| Maybe it's time for a re-brand with a new name. This
| worked for Joe Camel. Also, Christianity.
| boq wrote:
| Well, there exists "libertaire" in French (and other
| languages as well I guess) as a synonym, but nowadays
| people would hear "libertarian".
| JoeyBananas wrote:
| > And it also served to indoctrinate a generation of us that
| Anarchism as a social movement was nothing more than blowing
| up shit; illegal and violent by definition.
|
| Anarchism has earned this reputation for a reason, and it's
| definitely not a conspiracy.
| sofixa wrote:
| There are different movements/leanings of Anarchism, and
| some of them are outright mainstream in multiple countries
| (e.g. Anarcho-Capitalism is very popular in the US).
| vorpalhex wrote:
| Those folks also believe in blowing things up and burning
| down government buildings. They just believe that
| capitalism will be sustainable in the absence of a
| dominant power.
| [deleted]
| horns4lyfe wrote:
| As a Portland resident, I haven't seen anything evidence
| against that.
| mejutoco wrote:
| Noam Chomsky identifies as an anarchist, and he is not
| violent and blows things up, so evidence exists that it is
| possible.
| yakshaving_jgt wrote:
| Chomsky seems to be pretty cool with the appeasement of a
| genocidal terrorist regime though.
|
| He's not one of the good guys.
|
| https://www.e-flux.com/notes/470005/open-letter-to-noam-
| chom...
| mejutoco wrote:
| Thanks, that was an interesting letter. I was unaware of
| it. In any case, there are things to learn from Chomsky,
| without agreeing on everything with him.
| fancybouncy wrote:
| who decides who the good guys are? if you get a good
| anthropology book, you'll find plenty of societies that
| value violence (to varying degrees). in fact, you don't
| even need an anthropology book, just open the old
| testament.
| Spooky23 wrote:
| That's probably true. There's a program down to the county
| level where law enforcement establishes relationships with
| places that sell certain materials.
|
| If you show up and buy a big bag of ammonium nitrate or order
| a few hundred pounds of sugar and aren't known to the seller,
| you'll be looked into or talked to.
| brudgers wrote:
| It is true now. Fifty years ago, not so much. The first
| crackdown on chemicals was - I think but could be wrong -
| the precursors for quaalude manufacturing...it came even
| before the US got serious about drunk driving...around
| 1982.
|
| Oklahoma City made explosive precursors an area of concern,
| but meth precursors are a 21st century
| prohibition/restriction.
|
| Anyway, your local police are likely to have live access to
| security cameras in area businesses in addition to real
| time license plate readers in cruisers.
| dang wrote:
| Related:
|
| _"Anarchist Cookbook" author William Powell has died_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14001238 - March 2017 (85
| comments)
|
| _Burn After Reading: William Powell and the Anarchist Cookbook_
| - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9132852 - March 2015 (10
| comments)
|
| _I wrote the Anarchist Cookbook in 1969. Now I see its premise
| as flawed_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6936672 - Dec
| 2013 (190 comments)
|
| _Anarchist Cookbook authors hopes for discontinuation (read the
| author review)_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1694601 -
| Sept 2010 (41 comments)
| alasdair_ wrote:
| There was also the Jolly Rodger Cookbook
| (http://www.textfiles.com/anarchy/JOLLYROGER/) that was thee
| first set of "philez" that I read as a kid. Finding more like
| that led to me frequenting a bunch of interesting BBS, then
| learning how to, um, creatively pay, for those international
| calls and later into setting up my own board. It all kind of died
| off as the web became a thing but it was still a lot of fun.
| photochemsyn wrote:
| Perhaps an update is in order, but to make it more releveant, use
| a modern title like "Walter White's Guide to Improvised
| Chemistry" (hmmm... would that be an IP violation of some kind?)
|
| In reality all the information needed to make a wide variety of
| explosives, chemical and biological weapons, illegal drugs and so
| on is available in any university library and quite a few public
| libraries as well as the Internet - a Google Books search for
| "History of Explosives" is illustrative. The training necessary
| to successfully carry out the required protocols is available in
| any university chemistry program. Requisite raw materials are
| more carefully tracked and monitored than in the past, however
| (with good reason), but even so, such materials can themselves be
| synthesized by the skilled industrial chemist from non-trackable
| sources.
|
| The real risk is not that some isolated nutcase will go on a
| rampage, however - such people are more likely to blow themselves
| up or poison themselves than anything else - it's that nation-
| state governments and the private contractors they hire will
| decide to do something psychotic like produce drone warfare
| systems for the wide-area distribution of biological and chemical
| weapons in some place like eastern Ukraine (indeed, there may be
| some evidence that this is already going on or being planned).
|
| The real sociopaths all go to work for governments, as history as
| shown. The largest bioweapon and chemical warfare programs in
| history were run by the Japanese, British, American and Soviet
| governments, and they employed hundreds of trained scientists who
| justified their lunatic behavior with vague appeals to
| patriotism, duty, and national defense.
| yakshaving_jgt wrote:
| Please keep your kremlin propaganda off this website, and take
| a long and hard look at yourself.
| photochemsyn wrote:
| The Soviet bioweapons program was arguably the largest and
| longest-running of them all (see for example Sverdlovsk
| anthrax), so I'm not sure how drawing attention to it counts
| as 'Kremlin propaganda':
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_anthrax_leak
|
| The use of drones to deliver biological and chemical weapons
| is also a long-standing issue of concern in all warzones, not
| just in Ukraine. (Not every comment is part of some organized
| PR war between NATO & Russia)
| jabthedang wrote:
| [dead]
| Growtika wrote:
| Wasn't familiar with the book until I came across this Reddit
| thread few years ago.
|
| "The author of the Anarchist Cookbook, an infamous instructional
| book on homemade explosives, weapons, and drugs, regretted its
| publication. He attempted to have it removed several times, only
| to be thwarted by the publisher Lyle Stuart."
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/b2b3m7/til_t...
| culi wrote:
| The original author went as far as to publish a "second
| edition" more recently. This second edition is actually
| literally a cookbook. It's geared towards the mutual aid scene
| and the recipes are recipes you can make for hundreds of people
|
| We actually used it when starting a new Food Not Bombs chapter
| locally and most activists I talked to seemed to mainly be
| familiar with the followup. So I guess it had some level of
| success in covering up the original
| sammalloy wrote:
| I ordered this book from a local bookstore in 1984 because I
| heard about it in a book or a movie I saw, but I can't remember
| which since it was so long ago.
|
| Four months later I got a call from the store telling me it came
| in and quoting me an exorbitant price to pick it up. I never did,
| and I'm sure they didn't have any difficulty selling it off the
| shelf.
|
| Coincidentally, just a short while later, I got a phone call from
| an Army recruiter asking me if I was interested in JROTC. I think
| I was put on some kind of watchlist for ordering the book.
| [deleted]
| mgarfias wrote:
| Grab the army's improvised explosives handbook instead.
| kypro wrote:
| Just FYI, assuming this is a legit link (I'm not checking). You
| can get into legal trouble here in the UK for downloading this
| book onto your hard drive. At a minimum it's presence on your
| hard drive can be used against you in a criminal trial.
| [deleted]
| ndsipa_pomu wrote:
| I'm also in the UK and a friend brought up the illegality of it
| once, when we were discussing it, so I ended up having a look
| and it's freely available and sold by Amazon.co.uk, so I think
| your fears are exaggerated.
|
| There's an instance where two teenagers were charged with
| possession of it, but were found innocent:
| http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/7685636.stm
|
| However, if you're also involved in terrorist activities, then
| possession of it could count against you.
| sbaiddn wrote:
| Why not assume that illegal, fake, stolen, etc goods are
| easily available on Amazon?
| Spooky23 wrote:
| Probably depends on context. Possession of little plastic
| bags can enhance drug charges.
| IndySun wrote:
| The title appears under "Collecting or possessing information",
| section 7.25, but presumably having a copy would be evidence
| against along with other nefarious activities.
|
| If this link works...
|
| https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-terrorism-act...
| bnralt wrote:
| Good point. This BBC article said that a man was sentenced to
| two year in prison for having a copy of it on his computer[1].
|
| [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-60051861
| ThrowawayTestr wrote:
| Two years for downloading terrorist fan fiction. What a joke
| of a country.
| PaulRobinson wrote:
| It is not in itself an offence to possess this document on your
| hard drive in the UK
| generalizations wrote:
| Checked for you. It's legit. It's too bad that the UK is so
| locked down.
| boomskats wrote:
| It's ok, the UK is only going to get better.
| danuker wrote:
| How do you know?
| bombolo wrote:
| He's going to make some anarchy real soon.
| DAVer98 wrote:
| [dead]
| lampshades wrote:
| Seems to me it's only getting worse.
| [deleted]
| nickt wrote:
| In a similar vein, from back in the BBS days, The Big Book of
| Mischief.
|
| https://archive.org/details/Big_Book_Of_Mischief/mode/2up
| superkuh wrote:
| TBBOM was hilarious in middle school. But not nearly as funny
| as the "Bananarchy" text; a whole set of banana based
| explosives and weapons that was probably just a joke on the
| anarchist cookbook / the big book of mischief and their often
| not quite right "recipes". Things like making explosives out of
| banana peels or freezing bananas into ice bullets, etc.
|
| Unfortunately I can't find the file anymore with a restaurant
| called "Bananarchy" polluting the namespace.
| starkd wrote:
| Did any of them involve sticking a banana in a car's exhaust
| pipe?
| jimnotgym wrote:
| Wasn't there a similar one that floated around in the 90s called
| something like 'the terrorists handbook'?
|
| I never saw it myself of course...
| lampshades wrote:
| Yeah, that was one of them (the Islamic book I mentioned
| above).
| jimnotgym wrote:
| It was rather more than 20 years ago that i... heard about
| this book. I am guessing the Islamic group you mentioned
| simply redistributed it
| nathias wrote:
| ah yes, the artefacts of the good old web
| gfd wrote:
| Oh man this is nostalgic. I remember finding this when I was in
| junior high and wanted to try out their recipe for a smoke bomb
| (mostly because it seems to be the least complicated thing on
| there, requiring only sugar + potassium nitrate). But living in
| the city, it was hard to find some place that sells
| fertilizers/stump remover! So that was the end of that. Fun trip
| down memory lane.
| jonathankoren wrote:
| The author of this book was interviewed for a documentary. It's
| kind of interesting to watch the author's relationship to a book
| he wrote (I believe) in high school as a man of 66 years.
| Especially since he repeated tried to stop the book from being
| published, but couldn't because the sold the copyright with the
| initial publishing deal.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Anarchist
| dragonwriter wrote:
| > Especially since he repeated tried to stop the book from
| being published, but couldn't because the sold the copyright
| with the initial publishing deal
|
| Had it been a feemw years later when he wrote it, he could have
| reclaimed the copyright between 35-40 years thereafter, even
| having sold it. (Note as well as transfer, this applied to all
| licenses, expressly "notwithstanding any agreement to the
| contrary".)
|
| https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/203
| Ishmaeli wrote:
| I read a hard copy that was passed around my high school in the
| early 90s.
|
| The only chapter I remember was the one about tamping explosives
| in order to concentrate the force of the blast in the direction
| you want. That was really interesting to me for some reason.
| Normille wrote:
| >I read a hard copy that was passed around my high school in
| the early 90s...
|
| Slightly veering away from the subject. But your comment
| reminded me of _' The Little Red Schoolbook'_ --which was the
| [supposedly banned] book that we all passed around in school.
| Although being sadly older than you, this would have been the
| early 80s. I wonder if anyone else remembers it?
|
| As I recall it was pretty subversive in content, with sections
| on sex, drugs and anrachist politics.
|
| EDIT: Seems it was quite well-known after all. Wikipaiedia has
| an article on it:
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Red_Schoolbook
| evanwise wrote:
| Please, for the love of God, don't follow any of the recipes in
| here. Many are dangerously wrong (as in blow yourself and your
| neighbors up dangerous).
| brk wrote:
| FWIW, I am living testament to the fact that they weren't
| _that_ wrong, at least not to a "blow yourself up" extreme.
| evanwise wrote:
| While it's true that some of the simpler recipes will work, a
| lot of the others just won't work or are dangerous. From
| memory, the TNT and mercury fulminate recipes are wildly
| dangerous and omit key steps. Messing with stuff like this in
| any capacity is dangerous, even with proper PPE and good
| procedures, but if you must, there are much better resources
| available freely online these days.
| sph wrote:
| Meh. Follow them at your own risk. The best way to learn is to
| make mistakes and blow your neighbours garage, not being
| prevented from doing so by someone else.
| evanwise wrote:
| I hope this is sarcasm.
| sph wrote:
| Your comment I replied to is overbearing, overprotective
| advice about something titled the Anarchist Cookbook, for
| God's sake.
|
| I tried to restore a bit of that reckless spirit with a
| cheeky comment, but I am very sad to see the nanny state is
| out in force today. Gah, so boring.
| culi wrote:
| There's just some lessons everyone's gotta relearn in life.
| Touching the stove, accidentally committing manslaughter of
| your childhood friends, etc
| nickpinkston wrote:
| Be careful with this - IIRC some of the recipes aren't very safe.
|
| I think the Army's "Improvised Munitions Handbook" is
| better/safer - for educational purposes only of course... :-)
|
| https://www.amazon.com/U-S-Army-Improvised-Munitions-Handboo...
| GartzenDeHaes wrote:
| A couple of times a year, the FBI scrapes up the remains of
| someone trying to make explosives with the recipes in this book.
| ada1981 wrote:
| I remember being a teenager in the 90s in Erie, PA and making
| things from the AC was our go to entertainment. Many a weeknight
| was spent cutting the heads off matches, stuffing them into PVC
| pipes and throwing bombs at each other in the woods.
|
| It's nothing short of a miracle that we all made it out of that
| time period alive, with our limbs and fingers intact, and not in
| federal prison.
| euroderf wrote:
| Growing up in the 70s, I remember seeing lots of injunctions
| against being a "basement bomber". Apparently it had been a
| thing (in the 60s?) to make pipe bombs, from match heads etc.
| [deleted]
| starkd wrote:
| I think most people were intrigued because of the
| experimentation and just having that kind of knowledge
| (ability) at your fingertips. There's a very strong DIY
| mentality that gets spawned from information like this. I don't
| think the mere presence of such material should be discouraged
| for that very reason. Anyone who seriously wants to implement
| any of these projects for nefarious purpose will need an
| extraordinary amount of self-discipline to carry it out. Even
| if they succeed, it's hard to believe any will succeed without
| raising red flags. The societal benefits outweight the risks.
| sammalloy wrote:
| In my specific case, I never actually wanted to blow anything
| up, I was just curious as to /how/ and /why/ things could be
| blown up.
| cameron_b wrote:
| I was a half-step back from you. I was in high school after Y2K
| and some had already paved the way of foolish use of this stuff
| such that I got long quiet interrogative looks from my dad over
| the material. Glancing through the introduction, I'm sure I
| never understood that stuff at the time.
|
| I remember looking through the electronics ideas and wanting to
| make a pen-microphone-transmitter, but then wondering why go to
| all the trouble. I'm glad I filed it away as "I know where to
| look if I need the information" and didn't do anything with it.
|
| I do remember the discussion of the honeypot nature of some
| topics and keywords. It is important to understand more about
| the giant before you attempt to stand on his shoulders.
| cratermoon wrote:
| I still have my hardcopy that I bought at a punk music/book store
| in the 80s. It's on a shelf next to titles like J. G. Ballard's
| _The Atrocity Exhibition_ , _RE /Search #6/7: Industrial Culture
| Handbook_, and _Book of the SubGenius_.
| sammalloy wrote:
| RE/Search was and is an incredible source. They saw the future
| of literature and media as far back as 1982. They were way
| ahead of everyone.
| sb8244 wrote:
| I used this to make NI3 (feather explosive) in high school as
| part of my senior project. It was somehow blessed by the teacher.
|
| The book very specifically says to not make this due to how
| volatile it is.
|
| We made it in the morning and put it in the undisturbed back room
| to dry for the afternoon.
|
| We got news of it exploding during a silent study hall and
| scaring the crap outta everyone there, especially since it was a
| different teacher in the room. The air current from the AC set it
| off.
|
| We were again (somehow) given permission to remake it since it
| went off.
| insane_dreamer wrote:
| > We were again (somehow) given permission to remake it since
| it went off.
|
| That's insane
| IAmGraydon wrote:
| Nitrogen triiodide really isn't very dangerous as it doesn't
| generate a lot of gas upon detonation, and its unlikely that
| you'll ever get enough of it in one place at one time to
| cause a large explosion. It's really just a chemistry
| novelty. It DOES make a mess, though.
| swader999 wrote:
| Nowadays they lockdown for peanut butter.
| chris1993 wrote:
| Some secondary school mates made this and spread it in the
| corridor. We heard the explosions as the head science teacher
| stamped through to detonate it all before the classes were
| allowed out.
| KMnO4 wrote:
| I, similarly, had a high school chemistry teacher who allowed
| me to experiment with recipes from the book.
|
| Before we touched any chemicals, we would go through the
| reaction on paper and calculate what would happen (eg DH) for
| education and safety.
|
| That's actually the origin of my username.
| willjp wrote:
| I get the impression that most people's chemistry experience
| was much different than mine. Ours was about rote memorization,
| period. I kind of feel like I missed out.
| jonathankoren wrote:
| Assuming you did this in the past 30 years, it's doubly
| worrisome that you got this blessed, because the book is
| absolutely notorious for being dangerously inaccurate.
|
| Supposedly the "The Terrorist Handbook" series of filez from
| Usenet corrected the errors, but I'm not a chemist, so I can't
| judge either's reputation.
| nibbleshifter wrote:
| A lot of the Usenet/BBS files are equally ... Well, let's
| just say you will lose your fingers probably.
| Natsu wrote:
| NI3 isn't hard to make, there are only two ingredients and I
| also made it in chemistry class by pouring ammonia on the
| crystals which we left on filter paper. The real 'trick' is
| not to use that much iodine crystal so you don't get a huge
| bang. You want to stay under 0.1g of crystal.
|
| There's precious little you can do wrong with the synthesis
| other than using too much iodine to make too much of it. It
| won't become particularly unstable until it dries a bit, but
| after that, yes, it may just go off on its own.
| sb8244 wrote:
| We did not say that we got the idea / recipe from this book
| of course. We actually got the idea from our previous chem
| teacher who retired the year before. (Meaning first year for
| the new teacher.)
|
| This was in 2010.
| DavidPeiffer wrote:
| In ~2006 a group in my brother's AP Chemistry class got
| permission to make thetmite for their class project. Set it
| off in a fume hood which I believe was already scheduled to
| be replaced that summer.
|
| In 2010 my AP Physics teacher gave us all really long
| leashes in terms of how much we could. One fellow made what
| equated to a water bottle capacitor, charged on a Van de
| Graff generator. After playing with it for a few days,
| trying to get the practicum teacher to touch it, and
| various other shenanigans, he felt a shock across his chest
| and was writhing in pain on the ground for a few minutes.
| We all lost Van de Graff privileges after that.
|
| Somehow that happened in 2010-2011 and there wasn't really
| concern to call for medical supervision. He's still doing
| great today thankfully.
| WalterBright wrote:
| > the book is absolutely notorious for being dangerously
| inaccurate
|
| I always wondered if that was propaganda in order to
| discourage people from trying things out in it. I've also
| wondered if the corrections were also propaganda in a
| malicious way.
|
| I wouldn't touch any of that stuff without being a trained
| chemist.
|
| A friend of a friend blew his guts out with a homemade pipe
| bomb. My friend had the dubious pleasure of driving him to
| the hospital with him bleeding out all over the car.
| KMag wrote:
| A few years ahead of me in high school, the wrestling team
| had a one-handed wrestler. A friend of mine on the
| wrestling team told me it was because the guy was helping a
| guy make a pipe bomb, using a hammer and a wooden dowel to
| pack match heads in a pipe. One guy was holding the pipe,
| and the other was swinging the hammer.
| philwelch wrote:
| The reliable counterpart to the Anarchist Cookbook is TM
| 31-210 Improvised Munitions Handbook, which is also freely
| available without copyright by virtue of being an
| unclassified US Army technical manual subject to FOIA.
| nibbleshifter wrote:
| The IMH contains a whole host of instructions that may lead
| to loss of digits.
|
| Its kind of a "safety third" document for really shitty
| situations, lol.
| [deleted]
| TheRealDunkirk wrote:
| I decided that I could make the fulminate recipe, and asked my
| grandfather --- who had taught me to make cap gun material ---
| to get the stuff I would need. He asked me again, to make sure
| he heard me right, and then flatly told me no. He said he
| loaded shells for WWII, and that's what they put in the
| detonating tip. He said it was so sensitive, they tested it by
| shooting shells through PAPER. I gave up on my dreams of making
| anything from the book after that.
| kstrauser wrote:
| Could you explain the "through paper" bit? I can't picture
| this.
| tempay wrote:
| I suspect it's that the tips of the shell are intended to
| be pressure sensitive and trigger an explosion that then
| detonated the main payload. The explosive in the tip was so
| sensitive that tearing through paper was enough to detonate
| it.
| esquivalience wrote:
| If the ammunition touches paper when shot, it detonated
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