[HN Gopher] Permanent campers: Rising rents are pushing people t...
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       Permanent campers: Rising rents are pushing people to live on
       public lands
        
       Author : jkestner
       Score  : 6 points
       Date   : 2023-01-13 22:09 UTC (52 minutes ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.azcentral.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.azcentral.com)
        
       | livueta wrote:
       | I spend a lot of time tooling around one particular pnw national
       | forest and can anecdotally confirm that sort of camping activity
       | has gone through the roof from summer '21 onward. While I'm
       | sympathetic to the situations a lot of these folks are in (had
       | some extensive conversations with campers) the bit in the article
       | about environmental damage is unfortunately super true. I'd say
       | that at least in my area, as many as half of illegal long-term
       | campers put very little effort into trash disposal. These days,
       | every time I go out I come back with a pickup bed full of bags of
       | trash. Last time, I had to figure out how to get rid of a bunch
       | of partially rusted through propane tanks. Yelling at individual
       | campers about it doesn't really work because they're all
       | constantly cycling through anyway, so in a week the same spot
       | will have been trashed by another jerk.
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       | One bright spot is that the FS, at least in my area, has been
       | stepping up enforcement. A couple trips ago I ran into a pair of
       | rangers who'd been turfing out RVs and issuing citations for
       | litter.
        
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