[HN Gopher] The sound of the dialup, pictured (2012)
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       The sound of the dialup, pictured (2012)
        
       Author : susam
       Score  : 75 points
       Date   : 2023-01-12 09:49 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | DerekBickerton wrote:
       | Link to the sound: https://oona.windytan.com/blogfiles/dialup.mp3
        
       | imwillofficial wrote:
       | So. Many. Memories.
        
         | now__what wrote:
         | The pure dopamine hit from this sound clip: unrivalled.
        
       | Overtonwindow wrote:
       | Found my new ring-tone!
       | 
       | I remember with the 56k modems I would occasionally hear a "bong"
       | sound a couple of times.
        
       | mgomez wrote:
       | I have tinnitus. I always describe my particular case as sounding
       | like a dialup modem that's being "muffled" because it's in the
       | next room over, behind closed doors. With this I can now pinpoint
       | the specific section (ANSam, 0:09-0:10).
        
       | Jtsummers wrote:
       | Posted and discussed a few times in the past:
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26626437 - March 30, 2021
       | (44 comments)
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15635144 - Nov 6, 2017 (108
       | comments)
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       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9171514 - March 9, 2015 (35
       | comments)
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       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5140135 - Jan 30, 2013 (46
       | comments)
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | [flagged]
        
           | Jtsummers wrote:
           | > Karmajunkiearewe?
           | 
           | Not really, these comments usually get -1 to +3 votes when I
           | make them and I don't make them that often, just when I
           | recognize the submission.
        
           | pessimizer wrote:
           | I bet if you're interested in reading comments about this
           | story on HN, you'd appreciate reading hundreds of comments in
           | four past threads. I don't understand the purpose in
           | discouraging people from posting them. When dang does it, is
           | it because he's karma-whoring?
        
       | jamesdwilson wrote:
       | One thing I never quite understood about dialup is how they
       | managed to handle duplex communication. That is, when one side is
       | talking, how did the other side not talk over it, or how did they
       | take turns, or how did they discern who said what.. like when one
       | side was broadcasting, didn't it muddle up the audio on the other
       | side?
        
         | klondike_ wrote:
         | Presumably uplink and downlink use different frequencies,
         | similar to how duplex radio works
        
           | psim1 wrote:
           | No need to presume; the ITU-T standards are surprisingly
           | readable!
           | 
           | https://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-V.22-198811-I
           | 
           | For this older standard (1200 bps using FSK modulation) it
           | does indeed use separate bands (from section 6.1):
           | 
           | On the general switched telephone network, the modem at the
           | calling data station shall transmit in the low channel and
           | receive in the high channel (call mode). The modem at the
           | answering data station shall receive in the low channel and
           | transmit in the high channel (answer mode).
           | 
           | The newer modem standards are far more sophisticated and I
           | don't know anything about them. I picked this one because I
           | had been working with V.22 in the past year.
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | ck2 wrote:
       | Just can't make myself throw out my US Robotics 56k external
       | modem, huge RS-232 cable and all.
       | 
       | How far we've come.
        
         | pm215 wrote:
         | I was still using mine for the answerphone capability (it was a
         | "voice" modem variant) until the end of last year; but now I
         | have no analogue phone service, only VOIP...
        
         | altgeek wrote:
         | "HST-only. 0 day warez"
         | 
         | Same here, I can't bear to part with the Darth Vader of modems.
        
           | 1001101 wrote:
           | HST training sequence was the best sounding. Would love to
           | hear that again, and see a breakdown of what was going on
           | there. Probably not as easy as maybe it's a trade secret vs.
           | published standard. Also the stealth fighter of modems if you
           | remember the print ads for it.
        
       | remir wrote:
       | I wish I could go back in time in the 90s and re-live those early
       | internet moments from childhood.
        
         | clnq wrote:
         | Thanks to dial-up, the 90s internet also couldn't handle all
         | the junk, spam, and tracking garbage we have online today. And
         | video ads or autoplay? Just funny to even think about.
        
       | neilv wrote:
       | Back when, as a young kid, I had access to a dumb terminal with a
       | modem, and trying all the local-call BBSes from a list that
       | circulated, it was very easy to tell some things by the sounds on
       | the speaker: at what baud you synced, whether the BBS had a
       | Telebit that did PEP tones, whether it was busy, offline, or some
       | other problems.
       | 
       | I feel a little bit of nostalgia for the sounds (especially if
       | it's for a successful connection). It was also a somewhat more
       | decent time in computers, much like the early Internet. Every now
       | and then, I have to stop myself from shopping on eBay for a
       | vintage dumb terminal. But my wirelessly networked laptop and
       | pocket computers with access to global hypertext of the world's
       | knowledge and people are pretty neat, too.
        
       | nigrioid wrote:
       | Here is a really cool collection of modem sounds:
       | 
       | https://goughlui.com/2016/05/03/project-the-definitive-colle...
       | 
       | https://archive.goughlui.com/legacy/soundofmodems/index.htm
       | 
       | https://archive.goughlui.com/legacy/modemlab/index.htm
        
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