[HN Gopher] The curious Soviet mini-sub of South Alabama (2018)
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The curious Soviet mini-sub of South Alabama (2018)
Author : vinnyglennon
Score : 117 points
Date : 2023-01-12 10:46 UTC (12 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (laststandonzombieisland.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (laststandonzombieisland.com)
| gullywhumper wrote:
| Here it is on Google Street View (in 2016):
|
| https://goo.gl/maps/Sc2nxJoyVGDQZmSN8
| mysterydip wrote:
| > Mobile-native filmmaker Mike deGruy
|
| Sign of the times I guess, my first instinct when reading this
| line was that it was a term for people creating films using
| mobile phones/gopros rather than traditional cameras. It actually
| means the city of Mobile, Alabama.
| [deleted]
| btgeekboy wrote:
| Also funny how you'd know the difference if you heard someone
| say it :)
| peepee1982 wrote:
| The wording is a bit weird though, isn't it? Why wouldn't you
| write "filmmaker from Mobile, AL"?
| bookofjoe wrote:
| You and Harold Ross; you are now ready to become an editor at
| the New Yorker.
|
| >One of Gibbs's rules (No. 17) offers a lucid explanation for
| a tenet of New Yorker style that has puzzled writers (and
| some editors) for generations: "I almost forgot indirection
| which probably maddens Mr. Ross more than anything else in
| the world. He objects, that is, to important objects, or
| places or people being dragged into things in a secretive and
| underhanded manner. If, for instance, a profile has never
| told where a man lives, Ross protests against a sentence
| saying, 'His Vermont house is full of valuable paintings.'
| Should say 'He has a house in Vermont and it is full, etc.'
| Rather weird point, but it will come up from time to time."
| And it does.
|
| source: https://archive.ph/RygOF
| jt2190 wrote:
| ... An editor at The New Yorker in 1937.
|
| https://s3.amazonaws.com/arena-
| attachments/454681/4780426217...
| SllX wrote:
| Dunno. Ohio-native, San Francisco-native, Portland-native,
| this is a construct that isn't all that uncommon in
| headlines. "Mobile" just has an additional meaning so you
| need context, but you also need context for which "Portland"
| one might be a native to.
| greenie_beans wrote:
| you are right, but in the writer's defense, he mentioned
| Mobile in the first paragraph so it's not totally out of
| context.
| usefulcat wrote:
| I think it shouldn't be hyphenated
| ljf wrote:
| Similar set up here, though this one is/was available to visit on
| the Thames in London
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_U-475_Black_Widow
| mustacheemperor wrote:
| Per wikipedia it's been awaiting restoration since 2004, so it
| might not be in much better shape than the one in Alabama by
| now.
|
| A shame, that's a Foxtrot class diesel-electric. Much bigger
| than the one in the OP link. There's one in Long Beach too, but
| it was also allowed to deteriorate and closed to the public in
| 2015. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_B-427
| ljf wrote:
| Interesting podcast on the sub
| https://coldwarconversations.com/episode35/
|
| And some video from 4 years ago https://youtu.be/nwLp0xwP9OI
| sidewndr46 wrote:
| It's been over 20 years since I last saw it in person, but there
| is also a pretty decent replica of the Hunley:
|
| https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-replica-of-the-css-hunley-...
|
| Based on the condition there, it was desperately in need of a new
| coat of paint by that point.
|
| At least one of the boats for the "Pirate's of the Carribean"
| series was built there. My understanding is they are real boats,
| but the hull you see in the water isn't what gives them real sea
| worthiness.
| imwillofficial wrote:
| That thing is wildly capable. It belongs at sea.
| grendelt wrote:
| Except...
|
| > Mobile-native filmmaker Mike deGruy- who dived on "Titanic"
| with director James Cameron and for his BBC series "The Blue
| Planet"- took a look at the vessel in 2010 saying at the time
| that "a person would have to be crazy to go underwater in that
| contraption."
| smileysteve wrote:
| You're looking at 40 years of degradation to the
|
| - every (rubber, for the time) seal needing to be replaced,
| in every fitting and valve.
|
| - the lower unit seems to have fractured under its own weight
| (this is likely the ballast tanks), this would need to be
| remade.
|
| - any pressure areas need to be retested (including the crew
| area) and replaced (all compressed air storage).
|
| Now, for the easy parts
|
| - the batteries will have to be replaced, but lithium ion is
| going to give you better performance at smaller size, with
| less degradation. (You'll have to compensate the weight
| though)
|
| - the motors will have to be replaced, but can use much more
| efficient, likely better sealed, better cooled, smaller,
| safer motors with pwm electric speed controllers.
|
| - modern glass and fastening techniques could replace the
| viewports, possibly add more as you rebuild the negative
| pressure vessel.
|
| - air management is easier to instrument.
|
| - you can add a bunch more cameras and sensors on the cheap
| that are significantly better than the let's
| iancmceachern wrote:
| Plus rust and corrosion. You could never be certain that
| pressure vessel is structurally sound without scrapping it
| and rebuilding.
| bluGill wrote:
| Depending on what it was made of that might not be
| enough. Some metals have weird fatigue issues.
| anotheraccount9 wrote:
| Ok. Could we get the plans and make a new one, for fun?
| ufmace wrote:
| Yeah but by the time you do all that, you probably would
| have been better off just building a new submarine from
| scratch
| otikik wrote:
| Theseus' submarine.
| Maursault wrote:
| It's far easier to build a space ship, and outer space less
| dangerous to pilot through than the bottom of the ocean.
| elzbardico wrote:
| I don't think a filmmaker is someone qualified to do this
| kind of judgement.
| hyperhopper wrote:
| Does he mean now, after decades of disrepair, or originally
| when it was actively used?
| imwillofficial wrote:
| Originally. Diving to the Sesotho it could is an impressive
| feat.
| brk wrote:
| Yeah, it would make a great artificial reef.
| saul_goodman wrote:
| So, who's ready for another hackerspace group to own a
| submarine... https://www.netflix.com/title/80239100
| imwillofficial wrote:
| I'd be so down, but without the murder part.
| grendelt wrote:
| That's the part of the story that kills the fun.
| TedDoesntTalk wrote:
| Haven't watched it, but the description reminds me of what
| happened to Natalie Wood (famous 60s and 70s Hollywood
| actor). Christopher Walken on was on the boat with her. He
| knows the truth.
| 6d6b73 wrote:
| http://jpaerospace.com/ is working on one.
| rmcfeeley wrote:
| [dead]
| schizo89 wrote:
| My favorite sub in BMT though.
| ElfinTrousers wrote:
| Wordier but more accurate headline: "The Soviet mini-sub of South
| Alabama whose presence there is easily accounted for".
|
| tl;dr: some guy in Alabama bought it surplus to do stuff with,
| then didn't do that stuff.
| [deleted]
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