[HN Gopher] The Alien Grave of Aurora, Texas
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The Alien Grave of Aurora, Texas
Author : Amorymeltzer
Score : 70 points
Date : 2023-01-11 18:05 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| vkaku wrote:
| Just when you think there's a real possibility of exhumation and
| further analysis there's known disinformation circulating. What I
| would really like to see is X Ray photography.
| RajT88 wrote:
| What's the disinfo?
| vkaku wrote:
| That they can't exhume the remains - random stuff like that
| on the Wikipedia article.
|
| If there is an actual burial of an alien, a government agency
| will likely cover it up.
| twobitshifter wrote:
| If there was anything to this they'd surely have exhumed the
| remains, Christian burial notwithstanding.
| beau_g wrote:
| It's actually the perfect cover: the last place anyone would
| expect you to hide an alien is directly under a sign that says
| "alien here." Ingenious of them to pull it off and play up this
| "tourist attraction" angle.
| ocdtrekkie wrote:
| That's my impression too. If anyone legitimately believed alien
| remains (or parts of an alien spacecraft) was six feet under
| that rock, the government would've gotten it either by not
| caring what people in the area thought about it, or literally
| tunneling under the earth and taking it covertly.
| codetrotter wrote:
| Mulder and Scully need to look into this.
| RajT88 wrote:
| > If anyone legitimately believed alien remains (or parts of
| an alien spacecraft) was six feet under that rock
|
| It is quite possible that nobody really buys into it.
|
| Or - another theory - the powers that be who would have to
| authorize it understand that their tourist trap angle is over
| if it is just a normal dead body. Therefore, it's not worth
| the risk to discover the truth.
| ocdtrekkie wrote:
| The US government does not care if it has podunk
| authorization to exhume a body, nor does it care if it's a
| good tourist trap. Bear in mind the study of alien
| technology presumably results in complete military and
| technological superiority on this planet.
|
| Either there never was an alien body there, or the US
| government has already taken it. There is definitely not
| alien remains under that rock right now.
| [deleted]
| RajT88 wrote:
| What I'm getting at is:
|
| - US Gov't doesn't think there's an alien there. - Local
| gov doesn't want to risk the loss of tourism.
|
| The US government, publicly at least, has not shown a
| great deal of interest in investigating UFO reports.
| [deleted]
| retrocryptid wrote:
| The offspring and I stopped by our family cemetery plot last
| summer there in Aurora. He had never heard the story about how my
| great-grandmother, when living in Boyd, had met a peculiar man
| from out of town.
|
| The family story is that he was the pilot of the craft and this
| is what explains my mothers' family's odd behaviour.
|
| Or maybe they just lived in Wise county a little too long.
| shookness wrote:
| "Author attempts to jump-start town with fictional UFO story"
| https://www.tshaonline.org/texas-day-by-day/entry/118
|
| This seems like a likely explanation of the story, but I admit I
| want to believe...
| [deleted]
| valarauko wrote:
| Skeptoid episode about this incident:
|
| https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4241
| thedorkknight wrote:
| Yeah I was gonna say, this story sounded familiar. Props to
| Brian Dunning on this one for apparently being one of the few
| to actually look at the context of the publishing of this
| story. It appeared with a bunch of other stories in that
| newspaper that were pretty clearly jokes.
|
| >In one, an "aerial monster" landed in a field, piloted by men
| from New York. In another, the crew consisted of lost Jews from
| the ten tribes of Israel who told a judge they'd come from the
| North Pole.
| nprateem wrote:
| I mean whatever you think on the subject you must admit the old
| school art is odd
|
| https://www.cantab.net/users/michael.behrend/repubs/j_geoman...
| goodroot wrote:
| I'm super pumped they gave the pilot a proper and respectful
| burial. Way to make a solid impression, Texas.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Or it could have been insulting. What if the alien wasn't a
| christian and the poor thing is now doomed in whatever
| purgatory its religion dooms it to until it gets the proper
| rites performed? Such a small minded assumption to be made that
| a foreigner would practice the same rites as the locals.
| _nalply wrote:
| As a Buddhist I find it respectful. Giving someone who you
| don't know the last rites anyway. Especially if it is not
| even the same species as you.
| dylan604 wrote:
| I can appreciate that "you do what you know" aspect, so can
| also see it as respectful too. However, I'm not the one
| that matters in these cases as I'm not a deity at the head
| of a religion. Some of these deities get really upset when
| you don't follow their teachings. Even if you've never
| heard of them so how could you know. Some deities tell
| their followers to slaughter all living humans so they can
| have their land. Some say to kill the non-believers. Some
| say to do specific things with their remains otherwise
| damnation for thee.
|
| Let's just say, I would not like to be the one making that
| decision for fear of sending someone down an eternal path
| that they might not have expected
| codetrotter wrote:
| Article screenshot text:
|
| > A Windmill Demolishes It.
|
| > Aurora, Wise Co., Tex., April 17.-(To The News.)-About 6
| o'clock this morning the early risers of Aurora were astonished
| at the sudden appearance of the airship which has been sailing
| through the country.
|
| > It was traveling due north, and much nearer the earth than ever
| before. Evidently some of the machinery was out of order, for it
| was making a speed of only ten or twelve miles an hour and
| gradually settling toward the earth. It sailed direct- ly over
| the public square, and when it reached the north part of town
| collided with the tower of Judge Proctor's windmill and went to
| pieces with a terrific explosion, scattering debris over several
| acres of ground, wrecking the windmill and water tank and
| destroying the judge's flower garden.
|
| > The pilot of the ship is supposed to have been the only one on
| board, and while his remains are badly disfigured, enough of the
| original has been picked up to show that he was not an inhabitant
| of this world.
|
| > Mr. T. J. Weems, the United States signal service officer at
| this place and an authority on astronomy, gives it as his opinion
| that he was a native of the planet Mars.
|
| > Papers found on his person-evidently the record of his travels-
| are written in some unknown hieroglyphics, and can not be
| deciphered.
|
| > The ship was too badly wrecked to form any conclusion as to lis
| construction or motive power. It was built of an unknown metal,
| resembling somewhat a mixture of aluminum and silver, and it must
| have weighed several tons.
|
| > The town is full of people to-day who are viewing the wreck and
| gathering specimens of the strange metal from the debris. The
| pilot's funeral will take place at noon to-morrow.
|
| > S. E. HAYDON.
| nothingforsale wrote:
| > gathering specimens of the strange metal from the debris
|
| And yet, we have no records of such strange specimens of metal.
|
| BoPET was beyond a strange specimen in the early 1900s, imagine
| what thin films of alloys were to onlookers then.
| LarryMullins wrote:
| The premise of an alien traveling all the way across the
| galaxy, only to crash into a windmill, is very amusing. Maybe
| it was a teenage alien joyriding his parental unit's spaceship.
| smallmouth wrote:
| I don't think whomever is in control of these objects are
| aliens from outer space either. And I don't think they make
| mistakes of crashing into windmills as well. But "they" are
| here for whatever reason.
| pram wrote:
| There are/were actually a lot of UFO "landing pads" around Texas.
| There was one in my hometown that was gossiped about often.
| Pretty wacky forgotten history:
|
| https://caterpickles.com/2017/10/10/official-ufo-landing-pad...
| ConceitedCode wrote:
| Wikipedia page for the incident -
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora,_Texas,_UFO_incident
| pavlov wrote:
| 1897 is when H. G. Wells's "The War of the Worlds" was published
| in serialized form on both sides of the Atlantic.
|
| UFOs and Martians were very much in the Zeitgeist when this
| alleged Texas incident occurred.
| nothingforsale wrote:
| If you want a macabre afternoon, search Google Images for
| "immolated body". They all look quite alien.
| smallmouth wrote:
| Interesting story. As someone who is interested in this, uh,
| subject, it is astonishing the number of "Air Ship" sightings
| that were reported in the latter quarter of the 1800's. Sightings
| on the ground and in the sky of Air Ships that moved very fast,
| even vertically and against the wind and had powerful search
| lights that turned night into day so to speak.
|
| Anyway, there is much written about this with some great research
| done by John Keel.
| seanw444 wrote:
| There are an awful lot of UFO/UAP sightings by the Navy in the
| last two decades. And they largely ignore them. There's a
| consistently-reported "sphere-inlayed transparent/translucent
| stationary airborn cube" aircraft that the Navy gets hundreds
| of reports for by its pilots. And the number has been growing
| year-over-year.
|
| Only a few have been seen with the human eye. The majority are
| seen via instruments. They know they're the same type of
| aircraft because their flight styles (or rather, the lack
| thereof) are identical to the ones seen in person.
|
| They were largely undetected until the Navy rolled out some
| more advanced sensors/instruments relatively recently, and now
| they see "flocks" of them flying in formation, or sometimes
| individuals stationary and unaffected by wind patterns.
|
| Is it aliens? Birds? Foreign drones? Experimental drones from
| higher echelons of our own government? Nobody knows. That's why
| it's actually interesting. Because even the Navy can't say it
| has an answer. But almost nobody seems to be interested in
| finding out, for some reason, despite them routinely flying in
| our restricted airspace without permission.
| renewiltord wrote:
| Sounds more like the new set of instruments has a similar
| artifacting pattern. It would be like saying "Until we got
| modern multi-lens cameras, we did not realize there are
| multiple suns, but they are invisible unless you use our new
| sensitive equipment. These suns move rapidly around the field
| as you move the camera and provide light but no heat" about
| lens flares.
| _-david-_ wrote:
| Interestingly enough the Navy has a patent to make UFOs that
| look real on radar and other sensors. [1] This seems like a
| good explanation as to why the Navy disproportionately has
| these sightings.
|
| It is possible the people who have made statements don't know
| about this technology or didn't know it was being used. It
| would also explain why the higher ups don't seem to really
| care to find answers.
|
| [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2020/05/11/us-
| nav...
| LarryMullins wrote:
| Maybe it's all a prank/hoax perpetrated by pilots and
| tolerated by Navy command, who perhaps see some value in
| muddying the waters about what's real or isn't real, sowing
| doubt about the technology America might have, confuse
| America's rivals.
|
| I've noticed that the people who think the alleged Navy
| sightings are genuine seem to generally believe that Navy
| pilots are beyond reproach, all work no play, never
| perpetrate hoaxes, never misread their instruments, never get
| deceived by their own senses, etc etc. From listening to
| them, you'd get the impression that the testimony of Navy
| pilots is the firmest sort of scientific evidence.
|
| Well I've met a small number of Naval aviators, and I can
| tell you that although they were professionals, they were
| also human. Punking the public for shits and giggles is a
| real possibility with them.
| vkou wrote:
| More likely, the reason the Navy is publicly talking about
| it is to encourage their people to report anything
| suspicious that they see.
|
| Which they might not be as inclined to, if they felt that
| they'd be considered a lunatic.
| LarryMullins wrote:
| Good point.
| smallmouth wrote:
| I've known my small share of military aviators back in the
| day and these are some pretty serious folks. I cannot
| imagine them now or then perpetuating a sustained hoax such
| as the possibility you are suggesting. I just don't see
| that happening FWIW.
| [deleted]
| seanw444 wrote:
| Absolutely possible. I'm not discounting that either. I
| just want a decently-funded investigation and explanation
| for all of it. Just to know for sure. The "gimbal" craft's
| recording is still unexplained, for example, and from what
| it appears, it defies our understanding of physics.
| agarren wrote:
| Mick West put together what I found to be a pretty
| enlightening and convincing analysis:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsEjV8DdSbs
|
| Ultimately, it remains an unidentified flying object, but
| between West's conclusion and a physics defying anomaly,
| I'd lean squarely towards the former.
| LarryMullins wrote:
| Mick West's analysis is very convincing. I don't think
| any of the publicly released videos show anything exotic.
| It's possible the pilots were deceived, perhaps through
| wishful thinking. Or the pilots understand the videos are
| mundane but guessed that laypeople might mistake the
| videos for something exotic and decided to have some fun.
| zoklet-enjoyer wrote:
| It's probably a projection
|
| https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2020/05/11/us-
| nav...
| tgflynn wrote:
| > But almost nobody seems to be interested in finding out,
| for some reason, despite them routinely flying in our
| restricted airspace without permission.
|
| Congress seems very interested in finding out. There is
| legislation in both the 2022 and 2023 Nation Defense
| Authorization Acts (NDAA) that mandates government
| investigation of UAP. An unclassified report was supposed to
| be delivered to Congress last October but for unknown reasons
| it has been delayed.
| zzzeek wrote:
| What kind of instrument can detect that an object is
| translucent / transparent that is not in fact a camera, and
| therefore has photographs ?
| seanw444 wrote:
| Radar. And I didn't mean to say that the instruments can
| detect the translucence. I meant that the ones that were
| seen in person were translucent, and have similar behaviour
| on radar to the ones that were seen in person, thus it can
| be assumed that they are likely the same class of objects.
|
| Another interesting detail that I forgot to point out: the
| one that _was_ recorded by a Navy fighter 's FLIR (public
| record, you can find it easily) had virtually no heat
| coming off of it, while simultaneously being unaffected by
| the wind and gravity. Which is reason enough for raising
| eyebrows on its own. Again, I'm not immediately jumping to
| aliens or anything. I just want it explained adequately,
| because it seems to defy current capabilities.
| matthewdgreen wrote:
| Tyler Rogaway wrote about the possibility that these "cube
| inside a sphere" floating objects are actually a specific
| kind of radar reflector. There are patent drawings in the
| article that are worth more than 1000 words.
| https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28640/could-some-of-
| th...
|
| ETA: the balloons are designed to reflect radar beams from
| surface ships/submarines that make them appear to be
| performing all sorts of incredible maneuvers _on radar_ ,
| which is pretty much exactly what you describe here.
| phs318u wrote:
| Fascinating article (especially the anecdote from the Cuban
| missile crisis), though it's worth noting that they state
| these objects don't explain the tic-tac video.
| thedorkknight wrote:
| Skeptoid did an article on this story. It appeared with a bunch
| of other stories in that newspaper that were pretty clearly
| jokes.
|
| >In one, an "aerial monster" landed in a field, piloted by men
| from New York. In another, the crew consisted of lost Jews from
| the ten tribes of Israel who told a judge they'd come from the
| North Pole.
|
| https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4241
| manv1 wrote:
| It's amazing that the deep state was able to embed someone (Etta
| Peagues) into the narrative that long ago. They've been around
| for a long time!
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