[HN Gopher] Comparing the Graphics Capabilities of the MEGA65 an...
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Comparing the Graphics Capabilities of the MEGA65 and Amiga
Author : ingve
Score : 53 points
Date : 2023-01-07 12:47 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (c65gs.blogspot.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (c65gs.blogspot.com)
| unwind wrote:
| Great article for someone who mostly hears about the MEGA65 and
| C65 from the sidelines (8-bit Guy etc).
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| It would have been great with images to illustrate all the
| various concepts but that is obviously a tall order.
|
| Does anyone have maybe a link to docs?
| timbit42 wrote:
| A comparison with the C256 Foenix Gen X would also be useful.
| cmrdporcupine wrote:
| Back when I still had an order in for the Foenix I worked on an
| emulator (in C++) for a bit. It's likely changed a lot since
| then -- so take this with a grain of salt -- but it was a lot
| less "VIC"-like than this and more like a souped-up SVGA. Its
| framebuffer was structured like an 8-bit indexed palette linear
| memory. And then she also offered tiling & sprites and she was
| also working on a blitter at the time.
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| It was quite nicely and thoughtfully structured though my
| biggest beef was that writing code for the '816 for managing
| that framebuffer was a bit of a hassle as you have to fiddle
| with the bank register to work with pointers into regions
| bigger than 64k. So let's say you're writing a routine to flood
| fill or draw lines or rectangles etc, you would, I think, need
| to be managing the bank register for all framebuffer
| addressing, which is going to add cycles and complexity.
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| If I were designing a system around the '816 (or any other
| processor without a large linear address space) with a large
| framebuffer like that I'd consider having some planar graphics
| modes where each plane doesn't exceed 64k in size. Then at
| least you could do single-colour operations quickly/easily.
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| And it sounds like the MEGA65's VIC derivative is more 8/16-bit
| friendly around these kinds of issues.
| Keyframe wrote:
| I gave up on the machine. I ordered on Oct 1st, 2021.. to this
| day nothing. Laughable at best. Don't bother if you have an itch.
| You've been warned.
| diydsp wrote:
| Impressive info. Might be more digestible in table form.
| anthk wrote:
| I wish I could use the open ROMs replacement from MEGA65 for
| VICE, so Hessian (MIT 6502 code and non-free data) could be
| played under an FSF sanctioned OS.
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