[HN Gopher] Mac OS Ventura Issues
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Mac OS Ventura Issues
Author : naetius
Score : 70 points
Date : 2022-12-31 19:12 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| karlshea wrote:
| They really screwed up the NFS server on Ventura, specifically
| when it interacts with Docker Desktop.
|
| We figured out a workaround in the Docker issue queue but due to
| apathy in both camps around solving actual problems instead of
| doing yet another UI refresh it's just not worth sending anything
| through Feedback Assistant or trying to get the Docker folks to
| look into it.
|
| Otherwise I see some UI fixes from the last release, but now
| there are some new bugs! It really is just totally sloppy over
| there, I wish they would stop annual releases.
| highwaylights wrote:
| Couldn't agree more with this, with the exception of being so
| casual about security updates.
|
| I miss real OSX. I miss Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion.
|
| Where are the no new features upgrades? I don't need new lipstick
| on the pig every year. I need it to work without regressions.
|
| Also I want to set fire to the settings screen in Ventura. It's
| bad. It's just _bad_. Someone did a _bad_ job.
|
| New OSX versions used to be a good thing. Now I just dread them
| for fear of what they'll break just for an excuse to make the
| computer that I "own" a paperweight after a fixed time period.
| nullfield wrote:
| So how do we get this across to Apple?
| muhehe wrote:
| Why do you assume they don't know?
| dochtman wrote:
| Install Asahi on all their machines?
|
| I actually tried this 6 months ago and in no way found the
| Linux experience better than macOS even though I would on
| principle prefer living with an open source OS (I also don't
| actually notice a lot of issues on macOS). Of course that was
| still pretty early for Linux on M1 so I'll probably try it
| again in the future.
| xbar wrote:
| This is how I feel. Asahi is not quite there for me, but it
| is definitely going to get there prior to my M1s being
| desupported on Monterey (which is definitely good enough
| for me).
| mgkimsal wrote:
| Stop buying their products. Stop using services. Maybe... 3-5
| years, if sales decline enough, they'll 'listen' to the
| 'feedback' of people leaving the ecosystem and ... ask what
| you want, and deliver it another couple years later. Maybe.
|
| Not trying to be a troll or sarcastic, but there's really no
| way to get that sort of feedback to a company of Apple's
| size. Or, at least, there's really no way for individuals or
| small groups to get any impactful feedback to them.
|
| I had a set of AirPods. I bought the AppleCare - which I
| rarely do. In a 2 year period I had 5 'fixes'. 5
| replacements. In 2 years. PERHAPS having those sorts of
| metrics for them to review - an actual cost to their bottom
| line - wakes someone up to address quality issues. But...
| what do you do about the decline and usability in a settings
| panel? Stop using the settings panel? That'll show 'em! :/
| michelb wrote:
| Well not by filing radars, that's for sure. Infiltrate to a
| senior vp level, then take charge?
| titzer wrote:
| I'm sure they're busy training an AI to do support for them.
| Which, trained on the past issues, will just drop all
| feedback, randomly ignore bugs and issues for years, silently
| fixing some and not others according to no discernable
| criteria, and generally not communicating anything.
| eikenberry wrote:
| > Where are the no new features upgrades? I don't need new
| lipstick on the pig every year. I need it to work without
| regressions.
|
| This is one area where free software really shines. I recently
| put aside a simple desktop I had put together myself from parts
| that I had used for nearly 20 years. Updated from one OS
| version to the next with no issues, no new features forced on
| me, no surprises. Things only changed when I decided to change
| them.
|
| Only reason I finally ditched it a year or so ago is that
| technology has moved on and I want to try something new.
| wkat4242 wrote:
| Yeah this year was particularly bad with that stage manager
| stuff that really added nothing useful to the desktop. The idea
| is ok but it wastes a ton of space.
|
| On the iPad it's arguably useful but that's mainly because it
| doesn't have real windows.
|
| I also felt that every year Apple was sawing the legs off my
| chair by changing or removing features I used. At least now
| with KDE I have choice.
| etaioinshrdlu wrote:
| What's so wrong with the settings screen, apart from looking
| like iOS? It seems fine to me.
|
| Once I learned to stop caring about OSX updates, they make
| pretty much 0 difference to my life.
| Corrado wrote:
| My main complaint with the Settings screen is it it tries to
| squeeze everything into a vertical tower. I think it would be
| a lot better if we could make the screen bigger. It just
| feels so cramped on my Ultra Wide monitor.
| omgon wrote:
| theres a lot of things that don't affect your daily life that
| are worth caring about, like someone getting murdered,
| someone stalking someone else, or a company tracking/stalking
| someone else
| nequo wrote:
| This seems to not be a substantive response to parent's
| question about the settings screen.
|
| Or do you mean that the settings screen is used by Apple to
| enable tracking/stalking its users? Do you mind clarifying?
| [deleted]
| chime wrote:
| Glad to know I wasn't the only one with these Finder issues.
| Thankfully force quitting and restarting Finder brought things
| back for me. I did have to go through menu options (for first
| time ever) to show the sidebar and tab bar.
| matwood wrote:
| Yawn. Every new version ends up with issues, and many will say
| 'it's the worst version ever!'. Any system that has a lot of
| users will have some portion of those users hitting problems.
| People also tend to look back with rose colored glasses so
| current-N was better.
|
| Ventura has worked fine for me. The betas worked fine. I haven't
| thought much about macOS in a long time. I install it, and then
| mostly ignore it while I work.
| mikhailt wrote:
| Too much to hope for, I know but I secretly hope there's a secret
| side project for a new coreOS release specifically for all Apple
| Silicon devices. Kinda like what they did with the first Intel
| release of OSX (they started working on it 5 years before the
| first Intel Mac).
|
| I'm hoping within a few years, Apple will reveal the coreOS
| release (no Intel support) that unifies everything from Apple
| Watch all the way to Mac Pro.
|
| Just to be clarify, I am not talking about simplified iPhone
| interface on Mac but a new kernel (maybe linux derived?), unified
| tech stack (radio(bluetooth/wifi), APFS, Swift-only apps, etc)
| that's the same across all devices. This would allow them to
| simplify the whole process, work once and make it work right
| everywhere once.
| xbar wrote:
| I own 4 M1 Macs. None has Ventura installed because my research
| confirms the findings in this report.
|
| It is a strange thing: the hardware has improved (keyboard,
| processor) as the software has decayed.
|
| Asahi Linux is my exit strategy at this point.
| [deleted]
| satysin wrote:
| I don't know if it is a bug or a design change but something I
| cannot stand with Ventura is that "sticky windows" are less
| sticky.
|
| In all versions prior to 13 when you move a window to the edge of
| the screen or against another app window it would "stick" just a
| bit. You could push past it if you wish but it is a nice way to
| align windows neatly without overlapping or going off screen.
|
| In 13 you can get it to do that but it seems far less "sticky"
| than it used to be. I noticed it immediately and hated it.
|
| Does anyone here know if this is a bug (it is still present in
| 13.1) or a design choice going forward?
| ubercow13 wrote:
| I just tried it and it seems to reliably stick if you slow down
| as you move it to the edge of the other window, like it's
| trying to detect if you have the intent to stick it to the
| other window. If you just move it quickly past, it doesn't
| stick at all.
| satysin wrote:
| Yes but this is very different to how it has always been in
| the past.
|
| If you wanted to avoid the window sticking in the past you
| could hold the option key while you dragged the window,
| making it _less_ sticky seems kind of strange.
| peterbmarks wrote:
| The issues listed are Finder issues. I haven't seen them. Finder
| is vulnerable to connected storage devices. I did have a dodgy
| USB drive connected to one machine and all sorts of weird things
| happened, such as beach balling, until I disconnected it.
| detrites wrote:
| The author mentions there's no downgrade path for new machines
| that come pre-installed with Monterey or Ventura.
|
| Genuine question - is that really true?
| kccqzy wrote:
| Sorry for being nit picky but not really. You need to look at
| the OS that was preinstalled when that particular model was
| released rather than what OS an individual machine came with.
| detrites wrote:
| Thanks, that makes more sense.
|
| It's an important clarification for anyone wishing to upgrade
| to a newer machine but wants to avoid being stuck with
| Ventura until if/when it's sorted out.
| pfranz wrote:
| That's always been true, both with computers, tablets, and
| phones. Old versions of the OS don't support newer hardware.
| Often, hardware used to ship with a specially patched version
| of the OS and would be supported by the mainline OS in the next
| dot release.
| wkat4242 wrote:
| That's true, it's always been like that
| darksaints wrote:
| They should just scrap finder completely. It is by far the worst
| file manager out of all of the OSes out there. Absolute garbage.
| wiseowise wrote:
| > It is by far the worst file manager out of all of the OSes
| out there.
|
| Much better than Windows file explorer.
| rndmize wrote:
| Ug, no. I've always hated how Apple _refuses_ to put a "go
| up to parent folder" button in Finder. Every workaround I've
| tried just sucks. I don't want to right click the title at
| the top, I don't want to use list view, I want a simple
| button. Windows, by comparison, shows the whole path and lets
| you click on any point on it, and _also_ provides the button.
| There 's other issues I have with Finder, but this one alone
| leaves me wishing for Explorer almost every time I use it.
| duskwuff wrote:
| Two solutions:
|
| 1) Cmd + Up
|
| 2) View > Show Path Bar
| robflynn wrote:
| If you don't mind hotkeys, I eventually discovered that
| cmd+up arrow will take you to the parent folder.
| tgv wrote:
| I sort of agree. Explorer is weird, half-baked. The side bar
| doesn't work 100%, no tags, loading icons is sloooooow, it
| doesn't auto-update. It tries to be the Finder and the old
| Explorer at the same time, but I'm not convinced by the
| result. And the properties dialog might have been new in
| 2002, but it's antiquated by now. I can get work done with
| it, though. It's not horrible (like those old Gnome file
| managers).
| ubercow13 wrote:
| Finder is terrible compared to Explorer, it is insanely
| unreliable. Often the VFS will get completely broken and
| claim that files don't exist when you try to open them, fail
| to allow renaming or opening files on network shares, etc.
| It's also dog slow. It's abysmally slow at generating file
| thumbnails especially when files are changing due to some
| other process. Often quicklook will get completely locked up
| and require kill-9'ing before thumbnails will appear again.
| It has other weird bugs like not showing thumbnails for
| search results in some cases eg. on network shares.
|
| Finder has some nice features compared to Explorer but the
| actual quality of its coding seems to be terrible for what is
| probably the most important piece of userspace software on
| one of the 2 main commercial desktop OSs in existence.
| acdha wrote:
| Do you have any system extensions or something like
| antivirus software installed? None of that is normal.
| ubercow13 wrote:
| Not really. I have a few thumbnail provider extensions
| installed but they shouldn't cause these issues.
|
| I am pretty sure these things are 'normal' - they are
| reported around the internet. Just look at the article -
| bugs in Finder are hardly unprecedented.
| nibbleshifter wrote:
| Not even joking, Explorer.exe is looking far superior to
| Finder these days.
|
| I just want a file explorer that actually works.
| viraptor wrote:
| Not quite. In windows I can right click and refresh the view.
| Macos is stuck with the idea that there will be no issues,
| everything works perfectly, you don't need a refresh button
| (but you do).
| ChuckNorris89 wrote:
| Holy cow, that's one of my biggest annoyances with Apple
| operating systems. Apple assumes their OSs can never have
| errors and does no wrong, therefore everything is dumbed
| down as you, the user, don't need to see error messages,
| progress bars, way to refresh or trigger firmware
| checks/updates, etc, just trust that their OS will always
| work flawlessly. Except no software is ever flawless, least
| of all their latest OS.
|
| Why not just have a hidden 'power user' toggle in the OS to
| enable these things?
| ChuckNorris89 wrote:
| _" Yeah well, that's just like, your opinion maaan."_ - The
| Dude
|
| But in all seriousness, disagree.
|
| Latest Windows Explorer release slaps Finder with a 3 foot
| stick.
| Tempest1981 wrote:
| I wish Explorer had QuickLook -- pressing spacebar in
| Finder is super handy.
|
| PowerToys adds command-space, which is a start. Any
| QuickLook apps on Win10? (Does Win11 have this?)
| Tempest1981 wrote:
| Also wish Explorer supported paths longer than 259
| characters, after all these years. (Did Win11 fix this?)
|
| The file system supports 260+... the files are there.
| Just can't interact with them graphically.
| dylan604 wrote:
| wow, when I typed my response, yours wasn't visible yet.
| great minds and what not i guess!
| dylan604 wrote:
| Can you press the spacebar on a selected file and get a
| quick look at it without launching the default associated
| app without any 3rd party programs? If not, it's broken.
| ChuckNorris89 wrote:
| Not as broken as not having a file tree view or a file
| path being shown. You know, stuff since Windows 95 or KDE
| 1.0.
|
| But yeah, quick preview, as nice as it is, was never a
| Windows thing, and i doubt it will ever be, as I assume
| Apple has some software parents for it as they have for
| several basic UX and software features.
| kcartlidge wrote:
| > _Much better than Windows file explorer_
|
| I spend most of my time on my Air running Ventura, and love
| it, but the Windows file explorer on my Windows 11 machine is
| way better. Though obviously opinions vary.
| bloopernova wrote:
| I wish other file explorer apps would support miller columns.
| StevePerkins wrote:
| I just want to be able to drill into ZIP or other archive
| files, like any regular folder. Drag files in and out of the
| archive, view and even edit them from within the archive. You
| know, basic functionality offered by Windows Explorer for
| _decades_ now.
|
| I haven't even found any free/OSS archive utilities that really
| implement this as effectively as Windows out of the box. All
| you can really do with an archive in MacOS is... decompress it
| to the current folder. _Really?_
| drbawb wrote:
| I feel like it's not just Mac OS. I bought an iPad Mini 6, my
| first Apple device since an iPhone 4S. I am frankly astounded at
| how buggy the OS is, how annoying gestural based UX is, etc.
| These are just from memory:
|
| 1. Holding the "keyboard close" button to select an option from
| the context menu occasionally triggers the "Quick Note" gesture.
|
| 1a. Sometimes that options menu closes without even triggering
| the quick note gesture
|
| 1b. Similarly that button is overloaded to move the
| split/undocked keyboard, but it doesn't always recognize whether
| you are trying to move the keyboard or open the menu.
|
| 2. If you press in the middle of the Safari address bar it will
| usually be misrecognized as hitting the dropdown for the window
| management options.
|
| 3. If you pull out and subsequently dock the pencil often I find
| the pencil context menu refuses to go away. You have to engage in
| the following ritual: (1) open the mini keyboard from the tray,
| (2) hide the keyboard, (3) minimize the tray, (4) tap some text
| input before it will finally realize you're not using the Apple
| pencil anymore. (Which it knows you can't possibly be holding,
| because it's _charging it._)
|
| 4. If video scrubbing controls are at the bottom of the screen
| (as they typically are) then trying to use them will almost
| always result in entering the dock/app-switching routine.
|
| 4a. Similarly I've found in Safari that it is obstinate that any
| swipe near the edges of the screen is a "back/forward" gesture,
| and _definitely_ not you trying to hit the damn slider right
| under your fingertip. (This largely seems to be a Safari issue,
| sliders elsewhere in the OS seem fine; but this is a big problem
| considering _every browser_ is just clothes-over-Safari.)
|
| 5. Some apps behave very strangely with the different keyboard
| modes. Discord seems to be a prime offender. For example: the
| relatively large undocked/split keyboard behaves as an overlay,
| obscuring what is beneath it. However the very small floating
| keyboard, _literally designed to be an unobtrusive overlay_, will
| have Discord create whitespace for it. (Try putting the floating
| keyboard in the top corner and you'll end up with ~one line of
| message history.)
|
| 6. When Discord is in "slide over" mode, and the keyboard is
| docked, hitting their emoji picker will bring it up docked to the
| bottom left corner. However instead of being the full width of
| the screen/keyboard it will instead be the width of the slide-
| over window. (!?!)
|
| 7. Similarly I've had it where Spotify after being converted from
| a "slide-over" window to a full-screen app will have the player
| controls misaligned and the play/skip buttons will be completely
| obscured. (Couldn't seem to fix this without a restart of the
| app.)
|
| 8. I'm sure this is by design, but the iOS 16 duplicate image
| detection doesn't work if [one of] the duplicates are tagged with
| the Hidden flag. I would very much like to save space even if it
| means an extra button press hidden in a menu to "reveal hidden
| duplicates" or something like that. (Since the processing is
| allegedly on-device I don't really mind it going through my
| "hidden" photos, considering they're just rows in a SQLite DB w/
| a boolean field set to true.)
|
| 9. Apple Pencil w/ Scribble turned on it's a total crapshoot if
| you're going to make a selection or type some random "i", "'",
| ";", etc.
|
| 10. If other media is playing, or was playing recently, the
| keyboard "clacky" sounds often play louder than their usual
| volume. However it's not _consistently_ louder: it 's like it
| oscillates between whatever the keyboard volume is vs. whatever
| your media volume is.
|
| I'm sure I remember my older iDevices with rose-colored glasses,
| but the lack of refinement in this current UX is mildly
| infuriating at times. I mean you've got to get the basics right,
| and I don't know what's more fundamental than keyboards and
| window management. That's _literally_ the primary input /output
| of your OS. I feel like if Steve Jobs ran into even a fraction of
| this list he would've thrown the damn iPad like a frisbee. _I
| don't have the luxury of doing that because it's far too
| expensive._
| daneel_w wrote:
| I've been using OS X since 2005 and have of course noticed the
| same, how to put it... dissipating quality assurance... that set
| root somewhere around 2010. But I recently moved from Mojave to
| Monterey, and to my great surprise it has been an almost flawless
| experience. Not a single annoyance worth mentioning.
| maximilianroos wrote:
| FWIW I don't have the same experience at all -- I mostly find
| each release, MacOS gets a bit better. I don't see lots of bugs.
|
| The weight of commenters here is clearly not in the favor of my
| experience!
|
| Maybe that's because I don't notice things? Or I don't use many
| of Mac apps, like Mail / Finder / Mission Control / etc (thanks
| to Alacritty + VSCode + Contexts + Amethyst)?
|
| But I have to use Windows & Linux machines for other things, and
| I _vastly_ prefer using a Mac.
| flandish wrote:
| Same here. I tend to use my Mac as a consistently "crisp" way
| of getting to a shell prompt. I use iterm2, while I'm in love
| with alacritty, etc ... (and rust) - I just haven't switched.
|
| Combined with a pretty consistent decades old dotfile repo,
| good apps like Obsidian, vscode, and the crap corporate makes
| me use... I could really do fine with a Linux machine, but I
| always feel like the windowing envs are one
| "ctrl+alt+backspace" from me waking up in 1997's days slackware
| and video res/driver hell.
| willyt wrote:
| I've not noticed any of the issues either. Could it be crappy
| third party mouse or keyboard customisation software? I've
| noticed that Logitech software has sometimes has sometimes
| caused wierd issues over the years.
| KerrAvon wrote:
| Logitech's drivers are awful and you don't need them for
| basic mouse functionality. Do without if you can.
| blacksmith_tb wrote:
| I recommend using Karabiner-Elements[1] if you need to
| customize USB HID devices of any make or model (instead of
| installing flakey Logi sw).
|
| 1: https://github.com/pqrs-org/Karabiner-Elements
| BurningFrog wrote:
| My big problem is my Mac now doesn't remember which screen my
| windows are on after a sleep.
|
| Most of them, sure, but there is often a several minute session
| of moving things to where they're supposed to be.
|
| Only me?
| hedgehog wrote:
| I have quite a few complaints but that particular thing works
| fine for me.
| acdha wrote:
| I've never seen that. Is your monitor directly connected or via
| a dock? I had a coworker who had a dock resetting on sleep so
| it was basically doing a full disconnect, sleep, wake, connect
| cycle causing the windows to go single-monitor.
|
| I'd also recommend using one of the hot key apps to set window
| positions since it makes that transition a lot faster.
| lerp wrote:
| Not only you. In my case I had 2 identical monitors both
| attached to USB-C-to-DisplayPort cables on a 2019 MacBook Pro,
| and the left and right monitors would swap daily. Fortunately
| my monitors also had USB-C input; switching one monitor to USB-
| C-to-USB-C and leaving the other USB-C-to-DisplayPort seems to
| make the screen ordering mostly more stable. However the OS
| still moves all windows to the left monitor weekly, so it's not
| fully working.
| pram wrote:
| The author doesn't even have Ventura installed, he's just
| commenting on another blog. He hasn't used a new version since
| High Sierra:
|
| "I probably mentioned this a few times on social media, but the
| simple answer is that, apart from my 2017 iMac, none of my
| current main machines is supported by Ventura. And that iMac is
| my High Sierra machine, which I'm not going to update to run
| experiments or to study Ventura's UI. What I've seen on other
| people's Macs or borrowed Macs has been enough to make me say, No
| thanks."
|
| Thats fine but, what is the point? It's basically speculation. He
| doesn't know first hand if theres any issues he'd personally
| experience in the FIVE releases since then. He's basically just
| reading other blogs and saying 'yes it is bad'
|
| It's like someone who hasn't used Windows since 8 saying it still
| sucks.
| dang wrote:
| Recent and related:
|
| _Ventura Issues_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34155875
| - Dec 2022 (128 comments)
| spamizbad wrote:
| When Avie Tevanian was still at Apple, every version of MacOS got
| better: Not just more features, but fewer bugs, better
| performance etc. Now it seems like you get a visual refresh, a
| handful of minor features, along with a host of bugs that spend
| the next year getting fixed until the next release and the cycle
| repeats.
| acdha wrote:
| I think there's a lot of nostalgia coloring that view. There
| was a ton of kvetching back then and a significant majority of
| the problems then and now do not affect all users but the
| people affected will be far more likely to complain, making it
| easy to forget that.
| logicalmonster wrote:
| I've noticed more minor UI bugs than usual, but what's really
| glaring to me is system stability.
|
| I'm not sure of the cause, but I've seen Mission Control and the
| Dock randomly freeze/crash in some weird state and make the
| system completely unusable, or for some memory leak (I think) to
| just randomly cause the system to slow to a crawl even with all
| Apps killed and necessitate restarts much more often than
| reasonably necessary. In the past I've gone months between
| restarts, but now I can't go more than a week or so.
|
| What I'd really like to see is a slower operating system
| development cycle. There's no reason that we need brand new
| operating systems every year. There should be a minimum 2 full
| years between releases, taking the time to plan out the UI really
| well and create rock-solid features and kill almost all bugs. I
| used to be so excited for new MacOS versions and now I've come to
| dread them.
|
| That said, I'd still rather deal with Mac's relatively minor
| problems than the total shitstorm that my Windows box always is.
| donatj wrote:
| I really miss the days of a rock solid release every ~4ish~ 3ish
| years - when it was ready.
|
| This treadmill yearly release cycle of half finished OS's
| released not because it was a good collection of well built
| features ready to be released, rather released because it was
| time for a release, have done nothing but tarnish the OS.
|
| It's still the best UNIX desktop, end of story. The difference
| between macOS and Windows though isn't as big as it was when I
| switched 20 years ago, and most of the gap was closed by macOS
| getting worse and not by Windows getting better. In the current
| state, given the existence and relative decent usability of WSL2,
| given the choice today rather than twenty years ago, I may have
| never switched.
|
| The thing that really gets me is just reliability. In the early
| aughts when I asked macOS to do something there was no question,
| it would work. That was the excuse for having far less verbose
| output of what's happening. You didn't need it because everything
| worked. Now we still have total lack of output of what's
| happening, and things just fail silently all the time. It's
| become a very frustrating OS to try to love.
| pram wrote:
| There was never a 4 year gap between OSX releases.
| mikhailt wrote:
| Technically, they didn't say OS X. They may be referring to
| Windows.
| SxC97 wrote:
| >rock solid release
|
| They're obviously not referring to Windows...
| grumpyprole wrote:
| NT4 was a rock solid release actually and significantly
| more stable than anything Apple offered at the time.
| KerrAvon wrote:
| if we're going to make nonsequitur Apple comparisons, we
| should note that it was compatible with almost no
| existing programs, unlike Apple's contemporary offerings
| timbo1642 wrote:
| [dead]
| yieldcrv wrote:
| I wish finder would show the file path of files it found
| dev_tty01 wrote:
| It does. Under View, select "Show Path Bar."
| ubercow13 wrote:
| You can see it if you enable the pathbar (view, show path bar),
| then select the search result.
| lelandfe wrote:
| In Spotlight, holding down Cmd for a second will reveal the
| path of a selected file/app.
|
| In Finder, you can show the "path bar" via Cmd-Opt-P (or View >
| Show Path Bar), which will show the path of selected files in
| any Finder window, including searches:
| https://i.imgur.com/jXWYEnQ.png
|
| One final tip: Cmd-Opt-C in Finder will copy the pathname of a
| selected file. Sadly this does not work in file select sheets.
| yieldcrv wrote:
| thanks, I wanted the tip for Spotlight actually! good call
| titzer wrote:
| holy heck, yes!
| Teamteam16 wrote:
| Ser.
| mauricesvay wrote:
| One Ventura bug that has been annoying me: in Image Capture, all
| my GoPro footage has a timestamp of 0 (Jan 1st 1970).
| rado wrote:
| Wi-Fi signal goes from 3 to 2 stripes, or vice versa, when
| clicking on it. (Still, it's the overall best OS out there)
| flenserboy wrote:
| Both Ventura and iOS 16 are sloppy. While details matter to
| users, the logical conclusion is that taking care of them doesn't
| add to shareholder value.
| agsnu wrote:
| I remember in the mid-00s, Mac laptops suddenly became popular -
| one of the reasons was you could take them around and plug them
| in to TVs/projectors and they _just worked_ , but Windows was
| really hit-and-miss. Now it seems like that's flipped, and
| MacBooks have random external display issues these days... Sad.
| nikanj wrote:
| I plug my laptop to the same 2 screens every morning. Every
| couple of days, the laptop is just unable to deal 4k resolution
| to the main screen.
|
| Rebooting sometimes helps, actually shutting down and then
| starting up again fixes it every time
| alluro2 wrote:
| Same here, just for the refresh rate (I have 165Hz monitors,
| love the smoothness). I don't see any pattern to it,
| whatsoever.
| aeturnum wrote:
| I'm not sure that Apple has lost that focus? I too have noticed
| many more bugs in my day-to-day use, but I have always wondered
| if it's because my way of using the computer is slowly becoming
| "the way people used to use computers."
|
| The listed bugs involve the finder and networked drives -
| functionality used by a particular demographic of technically
| savvy users. It's not exactly that I'm trying to defend Apple -
| more that I am suspicious that what is happening is that Apple
| is still focusing on consumer experience, but I (we) are moving
| out of the "eye" of that experience. The generations younger
| than me interact with computers in very different ways than I
| did - and I think Apple's shift in focus reflects that.
|
| FWIW I still fine the "external display" story easier on macs
| than windows (despite, it seems, Apple's best efforts).
| codeflo wrote:
| For work-related reasons I use both a new-ish ThinkPad running
| Windows, and an M1 MacBook Pro. I also hate how unrealiable
| macOS has become compared to earlier versions. But that's still
| nothing compared to the Windows notebook.
|
| Like a 5-year old kid, this ThinkPad randomly decides that it
| doesn't want to go to sleep. Unplugging, closing the lid, or
| manually selecting it from the start menu: it simply won't do
| it. It does turn off the display, but the power light stays on,
| and the fans keep running. What am I supposed to do with a hot,
| actively cooled notebook that won't turn off, when I want to
| put it into a bag because I have to go somewhere? And fun fact:
| This bug has persisted for _years_. It 's a portable computer
| that actively refuses to be transported.
| grumpyprole wrote:
| Yes my work ThinkPad won't sleep either, broken from day one.
| Maybe we'd have better luck on Windows 11.
| KennyBlanken wrote:
| They can't do audio, either.
|
| https://www.google.com/search?q=M1+mac+audio+crackling
| cpursley wrote:
| Am I the only one with laggy blutooth mouse issues on M1s?
| Corrado wrote:
| I use a Magic Trackpad and found that after a couple of hours
| the pointer would become very laggy. However, if I keep it
| plugged in to USB, it works perfectly.
| jbverschoor wrote:
| Yeah.. move your laptop and/or disconnect USBc cable (monitor)
|
| Radio interference
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