[HN Gopher] Unintended consequences of blocking IP addresses
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       Unintended consequences of blocking IP addresses
        
       Author : miohtama
       Score  : 9 points
       Date   : 2022-12-29 21:23 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (blog.cloudflare.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (blog.cloudflare.com)
        
       | dastbe wrote:
       | isn't it wild that not once in this article do they talk about
       | working with governments to handle blocking in cloudflare's proxy
       | layer? they go on and on about why ip blocking sucks, but don't
       | actually propose anything better, especially to improve the
       | situation for customers behind cloudflare who become collateral
       | damage.
        
         | rolph wrote:
         | im older than dirt, so there wasa time when IPs were closer to
         | 1:1 with domain name; DNS was a snazzy way of using WWW, but we
         | would since inception, memorize or rolodex [1] the IP like a
         | phone number.
         | 
         | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolodex
        
       | koromak wrote:
       | Ironically this is exactly how cloudflare handles its spam
       | prevention. Have a dynamic IP? Its Russian roulette until
       | cloudflare decides you're dangerous.
       | 
       | My favorite experience was building a website for a client,
       | putting cloudflare in front of it, then discovering cloudflare
       | blocked the IP of our client's office from seeing their own
       | website.
        
       | rolph wrote:
       | im sure most of us immediately see the fallacy to be revealed.
       | 
       | i think TFA summed it up such as:
       | 
       | "It would be hard to imagine, for example, that a court in
       | response to alleged wrongdoing would blindly issue a search
       | warrant or an order based solely on a street address without
       | caring if that address was for a single family home, a six-unit
       | condo building, or a high rise with hundreds of separate units.
       | But those sorts of practices with IP addresses appear to be
       | rampant."
        
         | themusicgod1 wrote:
         | It's not hard for anyone who lived through the 90's/early
         | naughts to imagine the US or other legal systems completely
         | diverging from proportional action on computer 'crime',
         | especially when large corporate interests are involved.
         | 
         | The archives of Off the Hook are full of such examples
         | https://2600.com/offthehook/
        
           | rolph wrote:
           | * * *
        
         | johnchristopher wrote:
         | Well, swatting is a thing.
        
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