[HN Gopher] I ran the length of every street in Pittsburgh [video]
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       I ran the length of every street in Pittsburgh [video]
        
       Author : Audiophilip
       Score  : 252 points
       Date   : 2022-12-29 01:13 UTC (21 hours ago)
        
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       | donretag wrote:
       | There is some gamification like this at https://wandrer.earth/
       | 
       | I've been doing the same using Strava Heatmaps, cycling the
       | Hollywood Hills. Lots of very steep dead-end streets. Cannot just
       | wing it since you never know when there might be a street coming
       | up, new streets need to be planned.
        
       | NotYourLawyer wrote:
       | Great YouTube channel. Here's a fun video where he integrates a
       | raspberry pi into a NES cartridge to do all kinds of crazy things
       | using the NES's native hardware. Spoiler alert: full-motion video
       | of the rickroll video is not the craziest thing he manages to
       | pull off.
       | 
       | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ar9WRwCiSr0
        
         | kibwen wrote:
         | Here's my favorite video of his, where he reinvents computing
         | from scratch while eschewing inelegant 1s and 0s for elegant
         | floating-point values: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TFDG-y-
         | EHs
        
       | francisofascii wrote:
       | This is fantastic. Very impressive video. There is an web app I
       | used a few years ago, https://citystrides.com, that links to your
       | Strava/Garmin account and would give you a percentage of roads
       | you traversed for a particular town. Haven't used it in a while
       | but it seemed to work pretty well.
        
         | loeg wrote:
         | CityStrides is what I used, too. Once you've covered a lot of
         | ground and need to drive to get to runs it got less fun for me.
         | I think the trick to it is being able to move around as a
         | renter and run new areas over time.
        
       | zabzonk wrote:
       | good title for a springsteen song?
        
       | js2 wrote:
       | I ran the circumference of an entire country once while on
       | vacation:
       | 
       | https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/616188437
        
       | dirtyid wrote:
       | Rare treat. Probably my "most enjoyed : least amount of videos
       | ratio" content creator on youtube. Here's to waiting another
       | year.
        
         | iforgotpassword wrote:
         | Nah, this was an out of season April's fools joke. So just
         | another four months. :-)
        
         | mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote:
         | I believe the reason it tends to be one video a year is because
         | he's a comp sci PhD and does a SIGBOVIK paper every year, and
         | makes a video out of it. The rest of the year he does serious
         | research I guess.
         | 
         | This running thing was a personal project of 16 years though,
         | so likely we'll get another SIGBOVIK type video in spring of
         | next year?
        
           | shadowgovt wrote:
           | His Harder Drive paper was amazing
           | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcJSW7Rprio], most
           | especially the ending that considered a surprisingly common
           | configuration of utterly useless, inefficient mass data
           | storage that solves a problem nobody actually has.
        
             | mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote:
             | That's the one that led me to him; popped up in my
             | recommendations one day.
             | 
             | My favourite was actually the first one. I had a lot of fun
             | thinking about how to do this with different protocols +
             | ECC in a way that would let you use this as a sort of
             | secret storage that goes away unless you refresh it in n
             | days or so.
             | 
             | Not saying I got anywhere, but it was fun to think about!
        
       | anodyne33 wrote:
       | For more info on the city stairs that are mapped as streets,
       | Laura Zurowski walked all 739+ and documented with Polaroids and
       | wrote a vignette inspired by each. Lovely writing style and she
       | did a great job of capturing pictures that you'd see if you're on
       | foot, off the beaten path, and deliberately surveying your
       | surroundings.
       | 
       | https://mis-steps.com/
       | 
       | Her Instagram I think is the best way to browse the project.
        
       | kawsper wrote:
       | Fun video, I like his style and humor.
       | 
       | If you want to run all the streets in your city, there's loads of
       | us using https://citystrides.com to track how many streets we've
       | run (not affiliated, just a happy subscriber).
       | 
       | It's also a handy way of finding ways to contribute to
       | OpenStreetMaps, you discover lots of little details that isn't
       | mapped correctly on these runs.
       | 
       | I'm at a depressing 83 of 2655 streets (3.13%) in Copenhagen,
       | Denmark. But at a whopping 86 of 446 streets (19.28%) in Malvern,
       | England!
        
         | JeromeLon wrote:
         | Can you get any taste of the supporter features before paying?
         | I opened an account, got 60 activities imported from Strava, I
         | can see them individually from citystrides, but clicking on one
         | of the "Lifemap" buttons just zooms out, and shows nothing on
         | the map.
        
         | ibdf wrote:
         | Is there anything like citystrides but for biking?
        
           | alephxyz wrote:
           | https://wandrer.earth is similar
        
             | ibdf wrote:
             | Thanks, I will check it out.
        
             | durkie wrote:
             | Wandrer.earth founder here! Happy to help you get lost :)
        
         | raybb wrote:
         | What kind of details have you found go not be mapped correctly?
         | It seems a bit difficult to go from running around go looking
         | at a map and seeing what doesn't match.
         | 
         | I like editing OSM after walking around and area but maybe I'll
         | try running!
        
           | kawsper wrote:
           | I usually plan my routes a bit before I run, so I'm aware of
           | what streets I am supposed to be running.
           | 
           | I've discovered a street that wasn't mapped at all on OSM
           | (Tanglewood Heights, Malvern), I've discovered a gated
           | community with no public access that were marked as public
           | (Danebury Park, Malvern), and there was another parking
           | lot/street I couldn't access because it was behind gates.
           | 
           | I update the details on OSM, and then CityStrides updates
           | their data sometime later.
        
           | matsemann wrote:
           | As someone doing the same but for biking on
           | https://wandrer.earth/
           | 
           | It supports downloading a "map" of everything I haven't done,
           | and then on my Garmin unit I can use that as an overlay on
           | the map. Thus when I'm out and around I can try all sideroads
           | showing as un-biked. Then I often find streets that OSM think
           | are bikeable, but really are not. Either behind gates, a
           | highway etc. And fixing this makes it better for everyone.
        
         | GrayShade wrote:
         | I made something similar for myself. I probably wouldn't have
         | tried it had I known about CityStrides or other apps.
         | 
         | https://blog.dend.ro/mapping-my-walks-osrm-rust/
        
       | mgkimsal wrote:
       | Tangentially related, a friend of mine planned a shaped run, ran
       | it, then it got picked up by some local media (couple years ago).
       | 
       | https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020...
        
       | kernal wrote:
       | I found the uncovering of the "trap streets" amusing and how they
       | would change once made public.
        
       | dendrite9 wrote:
       | Ricky Gates did a similar project in San Francisco in 45 days.
       | http://www.rickeygates.com/everysinglestreet
       | 
       | During the start of covid I tried to walk every street within a
       | distance of my house, since it started from home and it was more
       | about seeing what was near me the range became more arbitrary
       | over time. Cool to see he stuck with this.
        
         | SpaceInvader wrote:
         | He was the first I know of that did such thing.
        
       | mannykannot wrote:
       | I wondered if Tom would include the streets that are long
       | staircases, and, starting at the 10 minute point, he does.
       | 
       | I have tried a "Manhattan nondeterministic run" a couple of
       | times. The rules are simple: do not cross streets except where
       | and when permitted by the crosswalk signs, and then you must
       | cross. In practice, strict adherence to the "don't start crossing
       | on flashing signs" rule leads to there being many times when you
       | go around the same block more than once, and I am not suggesting
       | one should do otherwise.
        
       | decasia wrote:
       | It's interesting, it seems at first somewhat gratuitous to have
       | such a complex gamified system for something like running along
       | city streets, and you can find yourself wondering why humans find
       | such joy from following self-invented rules like this...
       | 
       | But then I think to myself: Let's consider the physiological side
       | effects of this project -- the exceptionally great physical (at
       | least cardiovascular) shape that you would end up with from doing
       | anything like this...
        
       | LadyCailin wrote:
       | His other videos are worth a watch too. Fantastic content.
        
       | FpUser wrote:
       | Fantastic project and presentation. Best wishes.
        
       | w0m wrote:
       | Absolutely love this. Great job Tom.
        
       | rzzzt wrote:
       | That's a half marathon on average for each run?
        
         | shadowgovt wrote:
         | It'd be fair to say Tom is an expert runner. He does the
         | Pittsburgh marathon consistently and tends to do it in costume
         | or with props
         | [http://radar.spacebar.org/f/a/weblog/comment/1/1031] to up the
         | difficulty.
         | 
         | ETA: But as he notes in his video, the only thing he really did
         | to be "expert" at running was stick with it for years and lots
         | of trial-and-error.
        
           | chucksmash wrote:
           | He also talks about the costume and props around the 24
           | minute mark:
           | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1c8i5SABqwU&t=24m21s
           | 
           | He ran a 10k in ice skates!
        
           | rzzzt wrote:
           | He shows a histogram somewhere in the video and the numbers
           | do line up, it is very impressive.
        
       | jrochkind1 wrote:
       | Pittsburgh's street map is especially insane.
        
         | blamazon wrote:
         | Knowing Pittsburgh, I had a feeling before I clicked that this
         | would become a sort of philosophical exploration of what
         | exactly constitutes a 'street' with not quite conclusive
         | results. Glad to not be disappointed, what a delightful video.
        
           | mgce wrote:
           | I've done something similar - and less ambitious - on bike in
           | NYC: I biked all Brooklyn and at this point 90% of Manhattan.
           | 
           | I bet Pittsburgh is next-level confusing. But I think the
           | philosophical questions apply anywhere. I enjoyed that as
           | much as the actual endurance, and I loved seeing him dedicate
           | so much time to that. It's not obvious when you start how
           | subtle these questions get.
           | 
           | Challenges I remember:
           | 
           | - what level of highway counts. Some surface road highways
           | are clearly navigable. Interstates obviously aren't.
           | 
           | - on-ramps. When does a local road end and highway begin?
           | What do you do when the ramp is a gradual transition from a
           | local road?
           | 
           | - divided roads (i.e. parallel north/south roads separated by
           | a median, highway service roads)
           | 
           | - roads that peter out into alleys, sort of go through
           | peoples' property, may be fenced off, may be legal
           | thoroughfares even if fenced off
           | 
           | - campus road networks with varying levels of gate access /
           | accessibility
           | 
           | - access roads behind apartment complexes that only led to
           | driveways
           | 
           | - housing project street grids
           | 
           | - park roads, bike paths, walking paths, trails
           | 
           | - intersections with distinct turn lanes, plazas in the
           | middle, etc.
           | 
           | - highways / bridges only accessible once a year (i.e.
           | dedicated bike tours)
        
             | mgce wrote:
             | Examples:
             | 
             | - old beach lanes: https://shorturl.at/fty07
             | 
             | - apartment road network: https://shorturl.at/cikrR
             | 
             | - waste management access road: https://shorturl.at/bjM17
             | 
             | - one conceptual road; three physical roads and median bike
             | path: https://shorturl.at/eJS68
             | 
             | - center lanes become a bridge: https://shorturl.at/tvxLU
             | 
             | - complex intersections: https://shorturl.at/fxAC4
             | 
             | - apartment entrance loop: https://shorturl.at/bgDKU
             | 
             | - technically a road: https://shorturl.at/eJNYZ
             | 
             | - checkpoint for an entire neighborhood:
             | https://shorturl.at/vzLP1
        
           | 1auralynn wrote:
           | Yeah, I lived on a "street" called Shady Forbes Terrace,
           | which was actually just a sidewalk.
        
       | zeendo wrote:
       | Awesome video.
       | 
       | There's also https://wandrer.earth/ which tracks either cycling
       | or running and your progress within various administrative
       | districts. I'm not affiliated with it but I do know the creators
       | - it started as an Atlanta only project but has been global for a
       | few years now.
        
       | say_it_as_it_is wrote:
       | I was interested in the "GoPro Knockoff" mentioned in the video.
       | It's an Akaso 5000 series. Akaso now has a 7000 model for $70.
       | I'm very curious about this product! Not much info about storage
       | media compatibility. Can anyone comment?
       | 
       | https://www.akasotech.com/product/ek7000
        
         | Centigonal wrote:
         | why though? by all accounts the video quality was terrible
        
           | shadowgovt wrote:
           | Depending on what you want to hack together, sometimes
           | terrible video quality out of an incredibly cheap machine is
           | acceptable.
           | 
           | At that price, you could afford to buy five of them and the
           | micro computer to amalgamate the camera output into something
           | better than bad.
        
             | ldaw wrote:
             | If all you're looking for is cheap, you can find action
             | cameras like that for around $20 on Amazon, probably even
             | cheaper through AliBaba or similar.
        
         | zzigge wrote:
         | Bought two of them for my kids. They work with the 32gb sandisk
         | microsd cards I bought at the same time. Biggest gripe with
         | them is the RTC looses power when you switch batteries,
         | somewhat allieviated by automatic timesetting when connecting
         | with the akaso app, but alas only somewhat, since the time is
         | lost every time the kids replace the batteries, which means the
         | photos are all in jumbled order on the memory card.
         | 
         | Aside from that, they came with a bunch off accessories,
         | including a non-coded remote that allows "one button" picture
         | or video taking, without caring about the mode of the camera
         | (and the buttons on the remote are easier for kid hands to
         | press, less force needed)
         | 
         | The non codedness comes in handy, since one remote will trigger
         | both cameras, allowing synchronized videos to be created for
         | front/rear or stereoscopic purposes.
         | 
         | btw, created an account to post this, hope it has value.
        
       | throwaway4736 wrote:
       | Pittsburgh is an awesome town. Very underrated. Lots of friendly
       | people, great food, thriving business, and a lot more culture
       | than you'd think.
        
         | jvm___ wrote:
         | And a great children's museum and science center.
        
         | pilingual wrote:
         | If people want to learn more about Pittsburgh, there is nothing
         | better than the Rick Sebak documentaries:
         | 
         | https://www.wqed.org/watch/pittsburgh-history-series/flying-...
        
         | adsims2001 wrote:
         | And it has affordable housing! The population is about half of
         | its peak, so there is more housing than needed, the opposite of
         | many places in the U.S.
        
         | bm0 wrote:
         | Plugging https://arcane.city/ for the music scene
        
         | DonHopkins wrote:
         | I used to live in Shadyside on Gettysburgh Street in Pittsburg
         | when I worked at CMU in the early 90's. (Yay CMU Common Lisp!)
         | 
         | It really tweaked my OCD that Pittsburgh is spelled with an h,
         | but Gettysburg isn't.
         | 
         | Half the time when writing my address I'd get them both wrong.
         | I just did now, but googled and corrected it, but I didn't have
         | google back then, so I just had to wing it.
         | 
         | There was a cute little bohemian cafe near a park in Shadyside
         | with back yard garden seating.
         | 
         | Apparently whoever owned the cafe had inherited or otherwise
         | come into a copious supply of used bowling balls.
         | 
         | So they used them to make tables, chairs, fences, and weird
         | artwork and decorations, whole and cut apart, some with extra
         | holes drilled, some metal rods through them.
         | 
         | Lots and lots of bowling balls, artistically arranged. The
         | darnedest thing.
         | 
         | I'll never forget it, but I can't tell if I totally
         | confabulated it or not.
         | 
         | (Like how I can vividly recall that episode of the Muppet Show
         | guest staring Bob Dylan and the Band, where they played Too
         | Much of Nothin' with all the hippie and monster muppets: as far
         | as I can tell it never happened, but I still will never forget
         | it.)
         | 
         | Has anybody else ever seen such a thing, around '92-93 or so?
         | 
         | Was there an old bowling ball factory nearby?
        
           | kens wrote:
           | > Pittsburgh is spelled with an h, but Gettysburg isn't.
           | 
           | There's some interesting history behind this, which I learned
           | on a tour. The US Board on Geographic Names standardized
           | place names in 1891 by dropping the h from places ending in
           | "burgh". However, residents of Pittsburgh didn't like this
           | change and lobbied for the original spelling, which was
           | restored in 1911. So that's why you have Pittsburg CA and
           | Pittsburgh PA.
        
         | Schiphol wrote:
         | It also has what's arguably the best philosophy of science
         | department in the world https://www.hps.pitt.edu/
        
       | jart wrote:
       | Wow. If he did that while handing out campaign flyers, he'd be
       | the mayor.
        
       | thrdbndndn wrote:
       | Great video!
       | 
       | What is sports onion?
        
         | beckerdo wrote:
         | That is part of his humor for the video. I laughed out loud.
        
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         | ianferrel wrote:
         | It was a joke based on the fact that there were onions in the
         | first shot where he mentioned what he brings with him.
        
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