[HN Gopher] PelotonCal
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       PelotonCal
        
       Author : hasheddan
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2022-12-26 18:12 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | jimlongton wrote:
       | Is using another companies trademarked name in the URL and
       | service name and collecting their users names, emails and
       | passwords not likely to lead to some legal action?
        
         | dddrh wrote:
         | Not sure about the company name, but there are communities that
         | have revolve around Peloton that make access of the login.
         | 
         | https://pzpack.com/ Being the one I'm aware of as it can
         | analyze past rides.
        
           | jimlongton wrote:
           | Unless they plan to offer similar services in future it seems
           | Peloton are missing an opportunity to become a platform by
           | not providing an API.
        
         | RC_ITR wrote:
         | Peloton is probably the weakest example possible of this since
         | they took a very common and established word (for a group of
         | people riding together) as their brand.
         | 
         | In more practical terms, back when PTON was still a stock
         | darling, they constantly pushed how engaged their community was
         | via Facebook groups, etc. so going after this would probably be
         | a death knell signal that the magic is completely gone.
        
           | chrisbaker98 wrote:
           | Am I the only one who had no idea until now that "peloton" is
           | an existing dictionary word and not just a brand name?
        
             | elteto wrote:
             | It means "platoon" in Spanish.
        
               | ioblomov wrote:
               | And French.
        
             | mcintyre1994 wrote:
             | Probably not, but if you ever watch a cycling race with
             | commentary on TV then you'll hear it used. I'd guess since
             | they expanded out from just cycling it's probably not super
             | unusual for people to come across them first though.
        
             | Lev1a wrote:
             | I've seen it a bunch of times on TV when my father watched
             | Tour de France, Giro, etc.
        
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       | blensor wrote:
       | We did something similar for VRWorkout where group sessions were
       | available as an external ical calendar. The problem was that one
       | can not add an external calendar to google calendar from the
       | mobile device. Only from the web calendar, which is kind of
       | annoying.
       | 
       | Not sure if they are using an external calendar, but what would
       | be the best way to update a big group of people (that opt into
       | it) about certain events that happen every few days ?
        
       | NoboruWataya wrote:
       | I've only recently started using a calendar to keep track of my
       | personal schedule (the same way it is normal to do so for one's
       | work schedule). I would like more tools like this to make it more
       | convenient than manually adding everything (though ideally using
       | .ics rather than Google Cal). Either via third party tools or
       | companies allowing you to download .ics files from them.
       | 
       | Flights are an area this would be particularly handy; some
       | airlines allow you to download flight reservations as .ics files,
       | but very few in my experience. I looked into making a script to
       | do this in Python before (based on confirmation emails) and while
       | it would be quite doable, the lack of consistency in how the
       | emails are formatted and the airports are described makes it non-
       | trivial (if you want to properly handle timezones).
        
         | gkedzierski wrote:
         | TripIt does what you want, and more. (Imports flight
         | confirmation emails automatically, and gives you an iCal feed
         | you can subscribe to in your calendar)
        
           | NoboruWataya wrote:
           | Looks good! I may sign up.
           | 
           | Interestingly, I had a brief look for open source
           | alternatives and found that KDE Itinerary[0] may do a similar
           | thing, and that the same code has been re-used in a Nextcloud
           | Mail extension[1]. I don't use either so haven't been able to
           | test directly yet. But I did use a CLI tool based on the same
           | KDE code[2] and while it doesn't output iCal it does seem to
           | correctly extract the details from a reservation email (I
           | tested on Ryanair).
           | 
           | 0: https://apps.kde.org/itinerary/
           | 
           | 1: https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2020/01/18/kde-itinerary-
           | nextclo...
           | 
           | 2: https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2019/09/21/kde-itinerary-cli-
           | ext...
        
           | sameline wrote:
           | flightyapp.com on iOS also supports flight import via email
           | and has calendar integration.
        
         | sameline wrote:
         | My partner and I use anylist.com on iOS to plan each week's
         | meals. It supports creation of a calendar that you can
         | subscribe to in your calendaring app. That calendar has all-day
         | event for all the meals in a day. Handy to see at a glance what
         | we'll cook for dinner along with the rest of our evening plans.
        
       | newaccount74 wrote:
       | Calendars are one of those things where I just don't get why tech
       | companies can't work together to make them interoperable.
       | 
       | Maybe in 10 years, once the EU managed to make messengers
       | interoperate, they can do the same for calendars.
       | 
       | I don't understand why I can't just share calendars between
       | iCloud users and Google users, or like here, let Google users
       | easily subscribe to 3rd party calendars.
        
         | tracker1 wrote:
         | Lock-in... CalDAV has been a thing for a long time, and many
         | (most) calendar apps outside google's own (and MS) do support
         | this format. It's a bit wonky and sharing/interop are less than
         | great.
         | 
         | In the end, nobody is going to come up with a great server
         | solution to calendar/mail/contacts because in the end, every
         | effort I'm aware of has turned into a commercial solution
         | because it takes a lot of time, effort and support. If I ever
         | won a significant lottery amount, I would probably work on such
         | a thing. Not sure I'd see any big benefactor for this any time
         | soon.
        
         | CharlesW wrote:
         | > _Calendars are one of those things where I just don 't get
         | why tech companies can't work together to make them
         | interoperable._
         | 
         | iCalendar standard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar
         | (RFC for iCalendar standard:
         | https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc5545/)
         | 
         | With macOS it's easy to publish1 and subscribe2 to calendars in
         | this standards-based format. AFAIK, there's wide support for
         | the iCalendar in other apps too, including Google Calendar,
         | Microsoft Outlook, and Mozilla Thunderbird.
         | 
         | 1 https://support.apple.com/guide/calendar/publish-or-
         | unpublis... 2
         | https://support.apple.com/guide/calendar/subscribe-to-calend...
        
           | newaccount74 wrote:
           | Just like you I thought this was a solved problem, but when I
           | wanted to try it in pactice, I ran into two issues with this:
           | 
           | 1) The calendar subscriptions aren't read/write, they are
           | read only for subscribers. You can't share calendars between
           | Google and iCloud read/write.
           | 
           | 2) Android apparently doesn't support CalDAV! I tried, but I
           | couldn't get an iCloud published calendar to show on an
           | Android phone, not even read only.
           | 
           | The only way that I managed to use a shared calendar between
           | iPhone and Android was to use a Google account on both
           | phones.
        
       | pard68 wrote:
       | In college I put in about 200 miles a week on my bicycle. After I
       | got a fulltime job, got married, and had kids my mileage dropped
       | to around 100 miles a week. I now live rurally the roads are
       | exceptionally narrow and have 60mph speed limits, and so I have
       | not worked up the courage to ride. I have thought about mountain
       | biking instead, between my own 125 acres and the 25,000 acres of
       | national forest I back up to, there is a lot of opportunities
       | there, but I have never loved mountain biking.
       | 
       | Peloton and similar products have piqued my interest but I have
       | never had much love for stationary bikes in gyms. Anyone have
       | experience with Peloton's product? Is it better than the gym
       | bikes? Do the road simulations really match up?
        
         | elijaht wrote:
         | I would not recommend Peloton specifically- I don't think it
         | really scratches the road riding itch. It's closer to spin
         | class than a serious biking session. I would look at Zwift for
         | what you used to do.
         | 
         | I say that as a former Peloton employee and current user who is
         | very happy with the bike
        
         | xyzelement wrote:
         | I was a peloton skeptic and now love it. I am not sure road
         | simulation is the real selling point. Yes it's better than
         | looking at a wall but you can as well look at any random video
         | ( including of roads)
         | 
         | The by far chief value of peloton is access to the class
         | library. If you find rising boring and do better w an engaging
         | instructor (as turns out is the case for me) then it's well
         | worth it
        
         | batter wrote:
         | Sadly no. Well, probaby depends on person and what you like.
         | But you'll be very disappointed if you consider Peloton to be
         | something more than bike + tablet
        
         | lopatin wrote:
         | I also don't have experience with it, but have heard from
         | friends that a big part of the appeal is that there are certain
         | trainers that you can follow. I guess they're like
         | influencers/trainers, that "ride" along with you and have
         | subscribers or something. It's also a monthly fee. Personally
         | I'd rather use a regular bike and listen to an audiobook.
        
         | Cockbrand wrote:
         | Two tangential thoughts:
         | 
         | - Try a gravel bike, which gives you a very road bike like
         | feel, but isn't restricted to paved roads. I use mine to do 95%
         | of the off-road stuff I used to do with my MTB, plus a lot of
         | road.
         | 
         | - I've used my road bike on a smart trainer with Rouvy, Zwift
         | and Wahoo SYSTM lately, and it's by far better than the typical
         | gym bike. I switch between these apps, as they all have their
         | individual strengths and weaknesses. That said, if you already
         | own a road bike, a smart trainer might be better for giving
         | stationary cycling a try. Smaller investment, smaller footprint
         | when not in use.
        
           | pard68 wrote:
           | I have been looking at gravel bikes. They seem like a good
           | compromise. I live on an asphalt road, but there is a hundred
           | or more miles of dirt forestry roads within a mile or two.
           | Might be that a gravel bike can get me to and through the
           | forestry roads.
        
         | dd82 wrote:
         | Your examples are why I really don't like road riding too much,
         | and much prefer trail riding. Why don't you like MTB?
         | 
         | The big reason I like it is because you need to focus on the
         | now and next, you can't zone out, unlike with road riding. And
         | its alot more dynamic all around, keeps you honest with
         | yourself.
         | 
         | As others have said, gravel biking might be an option for you,
         | if you put wider tires on.
        
         | savanaly wrote:
         | I've been using it daily since I got it, which was just a
         | couple weeks ago. So I'm very much still in the honeymoon
         | period and shouldn't comment on whether it's worth it in the
         | long view. But in the short view I have been entirely satisfied
         | with the pricing and product. I did renting which is available
         | in my country for the Bike and Bike+ (I chose Bike, and in
         | retrospect don't regret it) and plan to convert to a purchase
         | if I'm still using it in six+ months. I probably wouldn't have
         | gone through with it if the option to rent wasn't there. Even
         | the one month free trial that is offered with the purchase
         | option isn't good enough to reassure me I won't use it for e.g.
         | 40 days then drop it and be out $2000. But with renting I pay
         | ~$100/month and can drop it whenever I notice it's been a month
         | without using it.
        
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