[HN Gopher] Tell HN: Thank You
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       Tell HN: Thank You
        
       On Christmas Eve I made a post trying to ensure that all of our
       fellow users were at the very least safe and fed over the holiday
       weekend.  Thanks to your help, I was able to distribute to over 40
       people/families nearly $8000 worth of food, hotels and cash.  I
       will try to ensure we do this type of thing more often; while I was
       surprised by the level of need in the community, I was even more
       impressed by the desire to help fix it.  Thank you everyone.
        
       Author : atdrummond
       Score  : 363 points
       Date   : 2022-12-26 18:05 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
       | Kelamir wrote:
       | Thank you too! With the war in my country, we're barely meeting
       | ends, and couldn't prepare for Christmas. I wasn't sure about
       | asking for help, but we've been struggling for a while, and even
       | the holidays weren't looking to be any cheer for us. Although I
       | doubted that we deserved it - there are many people who have it
       | much worse, forced out of their houses, - I still reached out. I
       | don't know if it's right of me to do so, but I surely am glad to
       | see my family having better holidays.
       | 
       | I feel depressed about life, following news, and the world feels
       | ever more grim. Just two days ago I found out that a developer of
       | one of my favorite games "Stalker Clear Sky", died in Bakhmut,
       | fighting on the front lines... And there are suicide drones and
       | rockets flying by my location occasionally. We have regular
       | electricity shutdowns.
       | 
       | But this helps. We've bought Christmas presents for my brother,
       | got food to last the days, and we'll have a good celebration for
       | New Year, what with a cake, meat and other foods of value. It's a
       | kindness that makes me feel better about the world and people out
       | there.
       | 
       | Thanks :))
        
         | vertis wrote:
         | We don't talk about it much on HN but I for one follow very
         | closely and have given several thousand euros over the past
         | year. This is not to pump myself up (it's the least I could
         | do), but rather because you need to know that Ukraine isn't
         | alone.
         | 
         | Stay strong.
        
           | leandot wrote:
           | Same here, and I know others who do the same, you're not
           | alone! Stay strong!
        
           | atdrummond wrote:
           | Thank you for this.
        
         | Kelamir wrote:
         | I think it's not proper of me to add, but I'll reach out for
         | help once more, feeling encouraged: I'd like to find some
         | remote work. I have the following skills, among others:
         | 
         | - I am good at language learning, could teach anyone efficient
         | techniques in the field, as, apart from my native Ukrainian and
         | Russian, I am self-taught at English, German, and a bit higher
         | than beginner Japanese. Not only that, but I am also good at
         | learning in general, helping out people in Discord for 2 years
         | in the Anki community.
         | 
         | - I am a bit higher than beginner at programming. I can manage
         | some simple programs, such as a GUI that adds tasks to SQLite
         | documents and kills background processes if any tasks
         | unfinished.
         | 
         | - I'm good at relationships with people, having worked in
         | customer support, and I've read a couple of books on the
         | subject. I manage a Discord community, if that is saying
         | anything.
         | 
         | If you got any advice, or would like to hire me, email is in
         | profile, or write here :) It's frustratingly hard to find any
         | work - I don't have certificates, nor work experience in the
         | relevant fields. I am also outside a city, so there are few
         | local jobs.
         | 
         | Sorry if this is improper(plugging my job seeking in a joyful
         | thread like this one). I am trying to survive and feed my
         | family.
        
           | vertis wrote:
           | If you'd like some small programming jobs I'm sure I can find
           | some for you to do while learning. My email is in my profile
           | (as is my telegram, keybase).
        
           | atdrummond wrote:
           | Don't forget the HN threads for jobs on the 1st.
           | 
           | I'm working on this for you as well; should have more info
           | tomorrow!
        
       | moralestapia wrote:
       | It was a very nice gesture, thank you for this!
        
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       | zohvek wrote:
       | Thats fantastic. Thank you atdrummond.
        
       | oars wrote:
       | In my mind, I have an image that the median HN user works at a
       | startup or FAANG company, getting paid a generous salary and
       | living comfortably enough to not need to worry about these basic
       | needs.
       | 
       | Thank you for highlighting that there are others out there who
       | down on their luck (to put it mildly), with many things out of
       | control. For example, the user who posted from Ukraine really
       | struck a chord with me. Who would've thought last Christmas that
       | this one would be so different for Ukrainians?
       | 
       | What you have done is amazing. HN is truly a fantastic community.
       | I wish everyone a wonderful and happy holidays.
        
       | trollied wrote:
       | No, thank YOU.
       | 
       | Amazing.
        
       | sillysaurusx wrote:
       | The post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34122118
        
       | bloopernova wrote:
       | I feel bad that my immediate thought wasn't "what a wonderful
       | gesture" but instead was "how many of those in need were
       | scammers?"
       | 
       | It's weird to me that I like to think of myself as a positive
       | person but come up with that sort of thing.
        
         | vertis wrote:
         | A while back I spent some time working with homelessness
         | charities in Australia as part of a corporate sponsorship. It
         | was, to say the least, enlightening.
         | 
         | Australia has a very robust framework for dealing with
         | homelessness and so a much deeper understanding than a lot of
         | countries.
         | 
         | I used to have this perception that you had to be on drugs, etc
         | to end up homeless and it's just not true. There is such a
         | broad set of circumstances that can lead to homelessness and
         | for women in particular the leading cause is domestic violence.
         | 
         | But not having a support network around you (or if you have
         | some then it's couchsurfing, which is a form of homelessness),
         | is very easy. Plenty of people don't have strong support
         | networks to fall back on.
         | 
         | Scammers exist, but we can't let that stop us from helping the
         | many many people that need support (even more with the cost of
         | living crisis).
        
         | atdrummond wrote:
         | Most people frankly went out of their way to assuage that
         | concern with their initial e-mail to me. And even if one or two
         | wasn't 100% legitimate... I'm OK with that "hit rate". Helping
         | those truly in need makes those necessary mistakes worth it.
        
           | bloopernova wrote:
           | That's good to hear, thank you.
           | 
           | Thing is, I'm totally OK with some "inefficiency" in public
           | programmes like healthcare or food security.
           | 
           | And thank you for being a good person and doing something
           | when most people just wish that someone else would take care
           | of it.
        
         | epicureanideal wrote:
         | Maybe it would be useful to have some kind of organization
         | where people down on their luck but truly through no major
         | fault of their own could anonymously register and receive some
         | assistance. I think more people would be more generous if they
         | didn't think it was largely going to scammers.
         | 
         | I'm not saying that we shouldn't help everyone, just saying
         | that it would be probably much easier to get more support for
         | this.
        
         | keybored wrote:
         | If a person was out to scam people by looking for handouts that
         | they don't need, the last place they would be prowling would
         | probably be a message board for individualist tech entrepeneurs
         | and wage worker technologists who don't believe that it's
         | possible to make less than 80K USD as a programmer
         | (stereotypes).
        
       | carabiner wrote:
       | Who are you?
        
         | atdrummond wrote:
         | Nobody - but I think anyone has the capacity to make another
         | person's day a little bit better.
        
           | TedDoesntTalk wrote:
           | I find it incredible that you even put a phone number on your
           | HN profile. Wow.
        
             | vertis wrote:
             | Not the OP, but it can go both ways I guess. I believe in
             | being contactable and subscribe the the patio11 approach.
             | If you email me as a human, I'm going to read it and if I
             | don't reply it's probably because something interrupted me
             | while I was reading it so email again.
             | 
             | I'm happy to be challenged on anything I say and own it
             | when I'm wrong, so see no need to be anonymous.
        
           | keybored wrote:
           | #humble
        
           | edoceo wrote:
           | Nah, you Somebody now. Inspiring.
        
       | sourcecodeplz wrote:
       | Well done giant. I followed your thread and was impressed also by
       | how many others also offered their assistance.
       | 
       | Very happy to be part of this community.
        
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       | syuil wrote:
       | I just checked out that post. Amazing.
       | 
       | The world needs more people like you.
        
       | NickC25 wrote:
       | Incredibly commendable and a genuine show of humanity in times
       | when one can look around the world and see a complete lack of it.
       | 
       | Well done, you're a top individual. Wish the world had more
       | people like you.
        
       | photoGrant wrote:
       | I'd be happy to contribute to something yearly in order to help
       | during the holidays, this community means a lot to me despite
       | knowing mostly no-one and having made no real connections over
       | the years. But you've all helped me grow and learn significantly.
        
         | tailspin2019 wrote:
         | The Hacker News Holiday Fund
        
       | joshxyz wrote:
       | Hi, I just wanna confirm this guy is for real.
       | 
       | Sent him a lengthy email about my situation a while ago and he
       | immediately responded.
       | 
       | Thank you very much @atdrummond, I'll share these blessings with
       | the people here. Happy holidays everyone!
        
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       | nothrowaways wrote:
       | Awesome, that's thoughtful. Much more impactful.
        
       | ghiculescu wrote:
       | Did you cover the $8000 yourself? I would contribute to that.
        
         | atdrummond wrote:
         | I covered the majority. One person sent me a decent sum; I'll
         | share their name once they tell me it is OK to do so.
         | 
         | Feel free to email me if you want to. I have some requests for
         | help trickling in still and probably have it under control but
         | I won't say no to assistance.
        
           | vertis wrote:
           | I sent you a message on keybase. Happy to contribute as well.
        
             | atdrummond wrote:
             | Sent you an email - I am locked out of my KeyBase for 5
             | days for doing an account reset.
        
           | ghiculescu wrote:
           | I sent OP $1000
           | 
           | Sharing this here in the hope it inspires others who have the
           | means to do the same.
        
             | vertis wrote:
             | As did I.
        
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