[HN Gopher] APITable: open-source Airtable alternative
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       APITable: open-source Airtable alternative
        
       Author : chepy
       Score  : 199 points
       Date   : 2022-12-25 15:06 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | foolfoolz wrote:
       | the best air table alternative is google sheets
        
         | czx4f4bd wrote:
         | In what way? Google Sheets doesn't offer nearly the same set of
         | functionality without a lot of extra scripting work on top.
         | Also, it isn't open source.
        
         | lazyasciiart wrote:
         | Nonsense, it's obviously emacs.
        
       | christmaspizza wrote:
       | Is there an ongoing trend of sketchy "OSS" product offerings
       | using this same website layout and similar fake quotes from
       | users? I feel like I'm seeing this a lot recently.
        
       | xfz wrote:
       | Looks good, are they going to offer a hosted model? I couldn't
       | find pricing on their website, just an email sign-up.
       | 
       | Airtable's pricing just didn't work for me as an individual user
       | - $$$s per month even for a simple table with ~2000 rows. At
       | least Google had the good sense to make it accessible to
       | individuals, because those same people then go on to make
       | decisions at work.
        
         | teej wrote:
         | Google, with the monopoly profits it commands in search, can
         | afford to subsidize everything else. A startup that does one
         | thing cannot.
        
       | 0x008 wrote:
       | Also try out NocoDB as a good air table alternative.
        
       | tough wrote:
       | nocodb seatable are good options
        
       | djbberko42 wrote:
       | I hope you've reissued the secret keys you accidentally checked
       | in (as you can see them in the PR diffs). Cool project!
        
         | comprev wrote:
         | This alone doesn't fill me with much confidence. Such a basic
         | opsec error.
        
           | florbo wrote:
           | Eh, mistakes happen. For me it's all about how they're
           | handled.
        
             | connordoner wrote:
             | And, so far, it's been handled pretty damn crap.
        
       | moralestapia wrote:
       | This is great but I have trouble running it, so I just opened a
       | couple PRs and bug reports.
       | 
       | Thanks for releasing this!
        
       | Mortiffer wrote:
       | Is it just me or is this category of product exploding right now?
       | 
       | Here, a list of similar tools that let you easily make a data
       | model and generate some descent UI from it ?
       | 
       | https://budibase.com/ https://baserow.io/ https://directus.io/
       | https://strapi.io/ https://nocodb.com/ https://keystonejs.com/
       | https://saltcorn.com/ https://www.plasmic.app/
       | https://www.appsmith.com/ https://www.jigdev.com/
       | https://www.sanity.io/ https://www.jetadmin.io/
       | https://dashibase.com/ https://cortezaproject.org/
       | 
       | The above are only the open source ones with a descent number of
       | GitHub stars. I can't think of another time when I found so much
       | competition in one product category. Or am I mistaken and this is
       | not special?
        
         | rvba wrote:
         | Isnt there some joke that every month a new starup tries to
         | reinvent pivot tables?
        
         | melony wrote:
         | There's also https://github.com/illacloud/illa-builder.
         | 
         | Only Retool alternative I have found so far that's not AGPL or
         | open core.
        
         | hysan wrote:
         | I've noticed that productivity tooling has been exploding in
         | recent years. Note taking is another similar category where
         | there is a ton of competition. Things were already ramping up
         | pre-COVID, but ever since the WFH movement started, I've gotten
         | the sense that there has been a lot of monetary investment in
         | this space.
        
       | ralph84 wrote:
       | Before they get too far along they should consider changing the
       | name. Airtable would probably have a good trademark infringement
       | case that it's confusingly similar.
        
         | nawgz wrote:
         | You really think so? "Table" is common database vernacular and
         | "API" is the most generic term in all of software these days.
         | APITable also sounds nothing like Airtable and doesn't even
         | have similar connotations. Gonna have to disagree with you, but
         | open to hearing more context for your thought if you care to
         | expand
        
           | mtmail wrote:
           | > doesn't even have similar connotations
           | 
           | IMHO their tagline is "Open source & Airtable alternative" so
           | they're trying to make a connection
        
       | jswny wrote:
       | Airtable was so cool when I tried it years ago but it was
       | insufferably slow. Just unusable as are many web apps these days
       | unfortunately
        
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         | darkteflon wrote:
         | We use Airtable a lot with work projects; I also use it for
         | some personal stuff - a web-available relational database is
         | very convenient. But yup, it's still slow as molasses.
        
           | mark_mart wrote:
           | Are they mostly for marketing? I have never needed something
           | like Airtable, so just curious.
        
       | hysan wrote:
       | For those who have tried, how does this compare to other Airtable
       | alternatives like Nocodb, Baserow, Seatable, etc?
        
       | TedShiller wrote:
       | Airtable was a really cool startup when they came out in 2012.
       | There was nothing else like it. Now, with their mass layoffs, and
       | free alternatives, it makes you wonder if they can survive as a
       | company.
        
         | bachmeier wrote:
         | I have an account and I've tried to use it. It's never been
         | clear to me who their paid customer is - though obviously
         | they've found a ton of customers, so this is nothing more than
         | my own curiosity.
         | 
         | The entry-level paid plan is limited to 5000 rows, so it's not
         | a substitute for an SQL database. If I want to capture data in
         | this type of app with a few hundred rows, why not use a
         | spreadsheet, which everyone already knows how to use and
         | already has installed? For other uses, Trello significantly
         | overlaps, but with a simpler interface. Put differently, why
         | pay for Airtable unless you need a performant way to manage a
         | significant amount of data?
        
           | CPLX wrote:
           | I'm using it for internal business process stuff. Like
           | keeping track of client deliverables, events, things like
           | that.
           | 
           | It's basically the next step when you're annoyed with Google
           | Sheets for that kind of thing. The advantage is that it's
           | just super quick and easy to use for normal people that want
           | to go one step past a normal excel type spreadsheet into
           | something with a little bit of automation or custom views.
        
         | ushakov wrote:
         | They're a $10B+ company now. Incredible, isn't it?
        
           | lancesells wrote:
           | According to the $1.4B they raised. Love the product but
           | let's not get ahead of ourselves.
        
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       | gkoberger wrote:
       | I see some serious red flags on their homepage:
       | 
       | * "Partners" just seem to be logo-hijacking potential hosting
       | platforms (not actual partnerships)
       | 
       | * Most of the links in the footer don't work
       | 
       | * The testimonials use fake names + stock art
       | 
       | * API keys checked into a public repo
       | 
       | * Seems to be built by (or somehow associated with) this company
       | (hhttps://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/312911-47), but with no
       | links back
       | 
       | Please be careful using this product. Not trying to be insulting;
       | but if you're going to use it I'd make sure you install it
       | locally.
       | 
       | That being said, I love this as a concept. Airtable is so so nice
       | as a backend/DB for simple sites, and I'm intrigued by an open
       | source competitor!
        
         | fnord123 wrote:
         | > Airtable is so so nice as a backend/DB for simple sites, and
         | I'm intrigued by an open source competitor!
         | 
         | https://baserow.io/
        
           | darkteflon wrote:
           | Looks interesting but it's only open-core: loads of important
           | features locked behind subscription pricing, plus you lose
           | the ability to self-host: https://baserow.io/pricing
        
         | christmaspizza wrote:
         | Is there an ongoing trend of sketchy "OSS" product offerings
         | using this same website layout and similar fake quotes from
         | users? I feel like I'm seeing this a lot recently.
         | 
         | edit: through "product hunt"?
         | 
         | further edit: looks like this isn't new:
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29864157 maybe it's just
         | gotten worse and I've noticed it or its "products" in my feeds
         | recently
        
         | jahewson wrote:
         | It's also AGPL licensed but has incompatibly-licensed
         | dependencies.
        
         | wellthisisgreat wrote:
         | wow yeah this is as strong of an AVOID signal as it gets.
        
       | bluelightning2k wrote:
       | This looks awesome. Really well done and certainly well
       | presented!
        
       | pomatic wrote:
       | Looks very promising from the landing page... but the one click
       | gitpod instance is localised in a language that I don't speak.
       | (Mandarin? Thai?). Is there English language support available,
       | and if so, how does one turn it on?
        
         | moralestapia wrote:
         | This!
         | 
         | By translating a lot of things I was able to reach an options
         | panel with a language setting, among the options there was
         | "English (beta)" and clicking on it restarts the UI but nothing
         | changes.
        
       | erdos4d wrote:
       | I don't see the point of this. Airtable sucks at anything except
       | providing a managed database you can store a small amount of data
       | in for free. If you have to do the hosting yourself, just choose
       | postgres.
        
         | pimlottc wrote:
         | Is there a user-friendly web interface for Postgres that you
         | recommend? A database on its own isn't really a replacement for
         | Airtable.
        
           | kgodey wrote:
           | We're building one - our first release is coming early 2023:
           | https://github.com/centerofci/mathesar
        
         | CPLX wrote:
         | You can get a non-technical person to spin up a Postgres
         | database to do something like keep track of ad campaign run
         | dates or client deliverables or whatever?
        
       | xenospn wrote:
       | This is fantastic - can't wait to try it out!
        
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