[HN Gopher] Neural Search Frameworks: A Head-to-Head Comparison
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Neural Search Frameworks: A Head-to-Head Comparison
Author : bobvanluijt
Score : 40 points
Date : 2022-12-23 16:16 UTC (6 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (dmitry-kan.medium.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (dmitry-kan.medium.com)
| softwaredoug wrote:
| Dmitry is one of my favorite writers/speakers in this space,
| definitely also check out his Vector podcast if this area
| interests you.
| echelon wrote:
| Google's golden goose may be cooked.
|
| The two things they've got keeping people on their ad product are
| search and (hypothetically) anti-competitive practices that may
| be hit by antitrust judgments.
|
| If Google looses search ad revenue, the company is going to be
| put in a very precarious position where a lot of their scale and
| largesse becomes difficult, if not impossible, to maintain.
|
| Amazon, Apple, and Microsoft have a healthy mix of revenue
| streams. Google does not. For Google, the entire story revolves
| around search ad revenue.
|
| All Apple needs to do is switch to using Bing. An antitrust
| judgment against Chrome by default on Android opens the door for
| alternative browsers and search engines. And a judgment against
| Google search by default on Chrome sinks the ship altogether.
| Both the EU and the US are looking into this, and I wouldn't be
| surprised if one or more of these things happens in 2023.
|
| Google search quite frankly sucks. A lot of this is spam at
| scale, but there are also increasingly perverse incentives that
| keep Google from delivering an S-tier product. They make their
| money diverting your attention to the highest bidder.
|
| There are so many search startups getting off the ground now. The
| new breed of search is going to leverage AI/ML to do better than
| anything that came before. Paul Graham identified this as a
| promising attack surface, and he's totally right.
|
| This is incredibly good opportunity for startups. Not just
| search, but anything else that might chip away at a Google
| product that they don't really care about. That they might not be
| able to afford when their core revenue stream begins to falter.
| hooloovoo_zoo wrote:
| I think this is an incredibly farfetched position. Google has
| more hardware, several orders of magnitude more data, highly-
| developed experimentation capability, and at least equivalent
| ML expertise compared to anyone. If something chat-GPT-like
| ever actually starts to take off as a product, Google will
| clone it and crush it.
| hacker_9 wrote:
| Also, the core algorithm behind chatGpt, Transformer Neural
| Nets, was actually built by Google in 2017. They'll be fine
| [deleted]
| amelius wrote:
| Inventing something doesn't mean you can't get killed by
| it.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventors_killed_by_t
| h...
| arcticfox wrote:
| I think you're quite possibly correct. ChatGPT has already
| replaced _at least_ 25% of my search volume despite being a
| tech preview.
|
| Nothing has been able to disrupt Google so far but there's no
| reason it can't.
| karpierz wrote:
| Ironically, you might be increasing Google's profitability if
| the searches you're taking off their platform aren't really
| monetizable.
|
| Ex: "what is the tallest mountain" isn't really monetizable
| whereas "best bbq restaurants in Nashville" is very
| monetizable
| whimsicalism wrote:
| I wouldn't put Google out of the AI/ML search race. They are on
| the forefront of LLM exploration with players like OpenAI.
|
| And I would not underestimate the power of incentives for
| injecting advertising into LLM style search.
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