[HN Gopher] Aging is associated with a systemic length-associate...
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       Aging is associated with a systemic length-associated transcriptome
       imbalance
        
       Author : Anon84
       Score  : 42 points
       Date   : 2022-12-22 19:29 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | epicureanideal wrote:
       | Amazing! Another step forward in defeating aging!
        
       | seydor wrote:
       | So we just intersperse random bases?
        
       | mromanuk wrote:
       | Over 20 years ago, I watched a video by Aubrey De Grey that
       | really impressed me. In the video, he presented a short list of
       | "problems" associated with aging and described aging as a
       | disease. I haven't received any updates on this topic in a long
       | time. Is it still science fiction to think about living to be
       | over 120 years old?
        
         | Tade0 wrote:
         | Imagine job listings with 50 years minimum experience.
         | 
         | Lending and investing also become interesting at these
         | timespans.
        
         | xwdv wrote:
         | Not science fiction, but the first people to start topping out
         | at those ages consistently will likely have the right
         | combination of wealth, lifestyle and good genetics.
        
         | jonahbenton wrote:
         | Not science fiction. 150 might be possible for some people
         | alive now.
         | 
         | Andrew Huberman's interview with researcher David Sinclair
         | mid-2022 well worth a listen for high level but technical
         | coverage of state of play.
         | 
         | Yes, these people are avid promoters of their work, but they
         | are doing the work.
        
           | mromanuk wrote:
           | Thanks! I don't mind the marketing, in fact, if there is good
           | science behind it I totally support it.
        
           | idonotknowwhy wrote:
           | It's a shame his company is gate keeping NMN now that he's
           | created demand for it
        
           | nradov wrote:
           | There's no scientific reason to expect that anyone alive
           | today will live to 150. It's purely based on conjecture and
           | hope. If that was likely to happen then we would be seeing
           | some incremental progress towards the goal already. But still
           | we haven't seen anyone verified to live past 122. And she
           | died in 1997.
           | 
           | Maximum lifespan is unimportant anyway. What actually matters
           | is _healthspan_. If anything we 're going backwards on that
           | metric.
        
             | epicureanideal wrote:
             | Change can happen gradually then suddenly. For example,
             | massive human death due to disease, and then in the space
             | of one human lifetime in the rich world the death rate from
             | disease dropped incredibly fast.
        
             | mromanuk wrote:
             | Healthspan is super important, will be really cool to have
             | a youngish person living to 130/140/150, but yes a healthy
             | centenarian is really cool, too.
        
           | voyager1 wrote:
           | What do you think about his promotion of NMN? I was very
           | excited at first, but looking at his past, it all seems very
           | shady.
           | 
           | In 2004, Sinclair, along with serial entrepreneur Andrew
           | Perlman, Christoph Westphal, Richard Aldrich, Richard Pops,
           | and Paul Schimmel, founded Sirtris Pharmaceuticals. Sirtris
           | was focused on developing Sinclair's research into activators
           | of sirtuins, work that began in the Guarente lab. The company
           | was specifically focused on resveratrol formulations and
           | derivatives as activators of the SIRT1 enzyme; Sinclair
           | became known for making statements about resveratrol like:
           | "(It's) as close to a miraculous molecule as you can find.
           | ... One hundred years from now, people may be taking these
           | molecules on a daily basis to prevent heart disease, stroke,
           | and cancer." Most of the anti-aging field was more cautious,
           | especially with regard to what else resveratrol might do in
           | the body and its lack of bioavailability. The company's
           | initial product was called SRT501, and was a formulation of
           | resveratrol. Five years later, GSK shuttered the Sirtris
           | program without successful drug development.
           | 
           | Sinclair broadly discusses his longevity practices on social
           | media and includes them in his book. They include daily doses
           | of NMN and resveratrol, which Sinclair says are activators of
           | SIRT1.
           | 
           | Studies published in 2009 and early 2010 by scientists from
           | Amgen and Pfizer cast doubt on whether SIRT1 was directly
           | activated by resveratrol and showed that the apparent
           | activity was actually due to a fluorescent reagent used in
           | the experiments.
           | 
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_A._Sinclair
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirtris_Pharmaceuticals
        
             | nradov wrote:
             | We just don't know about NMN. It appears to be generally
             | safe, but no study has ever shown it to extend lifespan in
             | primates. More research is needed.
             | 
             | https://peterattiamd.com/ama35/
        
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