[HN Gopher] How School Buses Became Yellow (2019)
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       How School Buses Became Yellow (2019)
        
       Author : jelliclesfarm
       Score  : 22 points
       Date   : 2022-12-22 11:25 UTC (11 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.smithsonianmag.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.smithsonianmag.com)
        
       | Mountain_Skies wrote:
       | Semi related: it appears that rods are most sensitive to cyan-
       | green light (498 nm), which makes me wonder if using such light
       | would give you the best results in situations where seeing fine
       | details is important, but color differentiation generally isn't.
        
       | sparrish wrote:
       | This is a long standing argument in our family.
       | 
       | I say they're more orange than yellow.
       | 
       | Wife says they're more yellow than orange.
       | 
       | The battle continues.
        
         | layer8 wrote:
         | People differ in the sensitivity of their cones, I believe. I
         | wonder if that explains such disagreements, or whether it's
         | merely linguistic.
         | 
         | To me it's a warm yellow, by the way. It's much closer in color
         | to a banana than to an orange.
        
         | psidebot wrote:
         | Looking at the pantone color it appears more yellow to me. I
         | have seen a lot of minor regional variation though, especially
         | when weathering affects things, so they may be orangier in your
         | area. You could always say they're yellange.
        
       | hammock wrote:
       | >The best way to describe [the color] would be in wavelength,"
       | says Schwab. The wavelength of the popular school-bus color is
       | "right smack in the middle" of the peak wavelengths that
       | stimulate the photoreceptor cells our eyes use to perceive red
       | and green. The red and green photoreceptor cells, or "cones" as
       | they are commonly known, are the two most predominant cones in
       | our eyes. Schwab says, "If you get a pure wavelength of one
       | color...and you hit just one cone with it, you're going to have x
       | amount of transmission of signal to the brain. But if that
       | [wavelength] were to stimulate two cones, you'll get double the
       | amount of transmission to the brain." Remarkably, "That color
       | that we are calling school bus yellow hits both peaks equally."
       | 
       | Curious, what is the color that would hit red and blue cones
       | equally? What is the color that would hit green and blue cones
       | equally?
        
         | AlexanderDhoore wrote:
         | There isn't much overlap with the blue cone. See picture at
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_cell
        
           | hammock wrote:
           | Makes sense thanks.
           | 
           | Also the actually intersection of the green and red curves
           | looks more like 3M Safety Green to me (the yellowish hi-vis
           | vests). I wonder if that's how they developed that color
        
             | dylan604 wrote:
             | Doesn't the fact that they are UV reactive help them glow
             | and appear brighter? If they used the same color with a
             | non-UV reactive material, would they still seem as bright?
        
         | HPsquared wrote:
         | This is how subtractive colour works.
         | 
         | Cyan = (White minus red) = (Green+Blue)
         | 
         | Magenta = (White minus green) = (Red+Blue)
         | 
         | Yellow = (White minus blue) = (Red+Green)
         | 
         | So if you lay perfect cyan, magenta and yellow pigments over
         | each other you should get black (in theory).
         | 
         | EDIT: though, of course, there is no monochromatic "magenta
         | wavelength". There is a cyan wavelength, though.
        
           | hammock wrote:
           | Yeah I get that I mean more specifically what shade of cyan
           | or magenta. "Yellow" sure but according to the article,
           | specifically National School Bus Yellow.
        
             | mncharity wrote:
             | > according to the article, specifically National School
             | Bus Yellow.
             | 
             | Yeah, no. I suggest skipping that paragraph. I read it
             | first as demonstrating how rapidly quality of understanding
             | can deteriorate as you move away from someone's areas of
             | expertise. But on rereading, I could see how a non-science
             | journalist might mangle someone's valid description that
             | badly. And if the interviewee was Ivan (R) Schwab (of
             | UCDavis), I'd lean towards a mangle.
        
         | jareklupinski wrote:
         | Does this mean blue-orange movie posters are just trying to
         | spam our cones?
        
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