[HN Gopher] Genes down-regulated in spaceflight are involved in ...
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       Genes down-regulated in spaceflight are involved in longevity in C.
       elegans
        
       Author : Hooke
       Score  : 69 points
       Date   : 2022-12-18 20:43 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.nature.com)
        
       | politician wrote:
       | Finally, a rationale for space tourism! Much like the hot springs
       | on Earth, a trip to orbit extends lifespan (in bacteria). I, for
       | one, cannot wait to see this breathlessly hyped in the science
       | press. Step aside blood transfusions from teens to the elderly,
       | there's a new fountain of youth in town.
        
         | abledon wrote:
         | I like to pay an extra 50 Million, for the "Deluxe" package
         | where there are 10 extra boosters on my ship and I go 20x
         | Faster, and age _even slower_ while travelling faster than my
         | colleagues.
        
         | robertlagrant wrote:
         | I only go for the space "treatments". Calling it that doubles
         | the price, but you can so totally tell the difference.
        
         | Melatonic wrote:
         | I wonder, however, if after spending significant time in space
         | and then returning to Earth if the benefits reverse. Or if it
         | even has a negative outcome. It could be that if you stay in
         | space longevity is increased but after returning to Earth the
         | bacteria has trouble re-adjusting ?
        
         | pazimzadeh wrote:
         | Space travel weakens the immune system
         | 
         | https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-90458-2
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         | https://biosignaling.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1478...
         | 
         | So maybe it's a good idea for people with chronic
         | inflammation/auto-immunity
        
       | setgree wrote:
       | Having recently finished 'Project Hail Mary,' I am of course
       | inclined to see this as evidence for the panspermia hypothesis!
       | 
       | If our very distant ancestors evolved to hitch a ride on a comet,
       | they'd probably need a mechanism for slowing or suspending aging
       | while they traveled in zero-g.
       | 
       | We also know that nematodes can be revived after a very long
       | period of hibernation [0].
       | 
       | This doesn't quite fit in with our current story of evolution,
       | but then, I personally have no idea what the weakest empirical
       | links in that story are.
       | 
       | [0] https://nypost.com/2018/07/30/scientists-just-
       | brought-40000-...
        
       | ambicapter wrote:
       | It's amazing how the body is reacting to a high DNA damage
       | environment by making lifespans shorter (I'm not saying this is
       | happening intentionally mind you, just that somehow the body is
       | reacting "appropriately"), thus ensuring the species overall has
       | a better chance, even if the individual in question is losing
       | out.
        
         | matt123456789 wrote:
         | The article seems to say that aging is actually slowed in space
         | (abstract: "...These results suggest that aging in C. elegans
         | is slowed through neuronal and endocrine response to space
         | environmental cues.")
        
           | ambicapter wrote:
           | Oops! That's what I get for not reading the link carefully.
        
         | devmor wrote:
         | That take assigns a lot of imaginative intent to a
         | biomechanical process.
        
           | ambicapter wrote:
           | I literally specified that it wasn't meant to be read as
           | intentional.
        
             | devmor wrote:
             | "Appropriately" vs "Intentionally" are the same thing, when
             | discussing a low level process that does not have any
             | inherent concept of the resulting effect you assign it to.
             | 
             | Your comment implies intent regardless of you specifying a
             | lack of intent. It's the linguistic parallel to me pouring
             | water on my shirt and saying "I'm doing this without
             | getting my shirt wet."
        
               | ambicapter wrote:
               | > "Appropriately" vs "Intentionally" are the same thing
               | 
               | "Appropriately" just means, the correct course of action,
               | which is totally possible to do without intention.
        
       | JPLeRouzic wrote:
       | Could it be possible to add (2012)?
        
       | AlbertCory wrote:
       | Suggestion: the Smithsonian should have giant statues of _e.
       | coli_ , _Drosophila_ , and _c. elegans_. "
       | 
       | Because these little creatures have done more for scientific
       | research than anything else I can think of.
        
         | m463 wrote:
         | possibly white mice and HeLa too?
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratory_mouse
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa
         | 
         | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Henriett...
        
       | KasianFranks wrote:
       | Connected to some of our early work in language modeling applied
       | to space biosciences at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory/DOE
       | with Saira Mian, Michael I. Jordan and David Blei: "Statistical
       | modeling of biomedical corpora: mining the Caenorhabditis Genetic
       | Center Bibliography for genes related to life span"
       | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1533868
        
       | ljlolel wrote:
       | Or, in other words, gravity ages you.
        
       | mattwest wrote:
       | While the findings are interesting and may hold therapeutic
       | potential, this is a very zoomed in perspective.
       | 
       | We _know_ that epigenetic changes occur in microgravity and they
       | occur across the entire genome. While one gene may see an
       | upregulation or downregulation, it 's important to know this
       | happens to many genes i.e. differentially methylated regions
       | (DMRs). And these DMRs are not entirely predictable as there are
       | many mechanisms associated with epigenetics. For example, two
       | species at different levels of maturity may exhibit different
       | DMRs in microgravity.
       | 
       | So while we may see downregulation in one age-related gene, you
       | may very well see an upregulation of the many other age-related
       | genes. We'll have to find out with further inquiry.
       | 
       | Still, very cool stuff and I hope more funding goes into
       | microgravity effect on gene expression.
        
         | gxt wrote:
         | How is it possible to distinguish microgravity effects from
         | radiation damage since the only place to study microgravity is
         | above the atmosphere, and without similar shielding properties?
        
           | dmicah wrote:
           | I don't know anything about this research, but I imagine they
           | could also expose samples on Earth to similar radiation?
        
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