[HN Gopher] Panda Mini EV unveiled by Geely with 150km range pri...
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Panda Mini EV unveiled by Geely with 150km range price starts at
USD5700
Author : teleforce
Score : 18 points
Date : 2022-12-13 16:24 UTC (6 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.arenaev.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.arenaev.com)
| elkos wrote:
| For a while I thought it was about a FIAT Panda EV. I may have
| some fun memories in a bucket like that.
| N19PEDL2 wrote:
| Did they really copy the name of the Fiat Panda?
| tibbydudeza wrote:
| Most of these small Chinese EV's are for domestic market only -
| lax regulation means you can drive these golfcart like cars
| around without needing safety features like airbags/seat belts
| or own a drivers license.
|
| Also Fiat does not sell the Panda in China so no trademark
| issues.
| fy20 wrote:
| For Americans: The Fiat Panda was a two door hatchback (five
| seats, but good luck...) launched in 1980. It was slightly
| longer than this at 3.3m.
|
| Not only was there a 4x4 option, but in 1990 an electric
| version was launched, which became one of the first mass
| produced car EVs - it weighed 1150kg and had a 14kW electric
| motor.
|
| The current version is a four door hatchback, and still quite
| popular in some European countries. Perfect for driving around
| small Italian streets.
| brnt wrote:
| Not just Italian streets: you haven't driven an Alpine pass
| if you haven't done it in a Panda.
| benj111 wrote:
| *five door hatchback.
|
| The hatch is counted as a door.
|
| Also perfect for hooning around British B roads.
| rfwhyte wrote:
| I shudder to think how poorly built all these new "Cheap" Chinese
| EVs must be. If my and the rest of the world's experiences with
| Chinese built e-bikes and e-scooters is anything to go by, we're
| soon going to be in the age of the "Disposable automobile." I had
| a friend who got 4 defective Chinese e-scooters in a row all
| brand new from the manufacturer...
|
| These cheap Chinese EVs all just going to end up getting scrapped
| in 3-5 years or less and the environmental impact from all the
| toxic materials used in these cars ending up in landfills is
| going to be a disaster.
|
| Personally I'd way rather spend substantially more money on an EV
| from a reputable brand (I tend to prioritize reliability first
| and foremost), as for anyone dumb enough to actually buy one of
| these lemons outside of China, good luck getting warranty support
| or after sales service or even parts for your broken car. Once
| your cheap new Chinese EV breaks (And it will) you won't be able
| to get it serviced, and it will just end up rotting away in a
| landfill leaching toxic chemicals into the earth.
| benj111 wrote:
| As a counterpoint to your sample. My phone was built in China
| and works. My last phone was built in China, and works. My
| laptop was built in China, and works. In fact quite a lot of
| the stuff I buy comes from China and it mostly works.
| neuralRiot wrote:
| Maybe in first world countries it makes sense to purchase a
| quality built EV instead, but do you have an idea how hard is
| to even buy a used scooter for some people in other places?
| This obviously is not aimed to replace Teslas in NY or Tokyo
| but it probably is a more environment-friendly alternative to
| old oil-burning cars in some places.
| Meph504 wrote:
| I mean, you keep saying "cheap Chinese" have you seen the build
| quality of say Tesla lately, have tried to get one serviced?
|
| We are in an age of disposable everything, and it isn't just
| the Chinese with poor build quality, this reduction in quality
| is driven by the private equity acquisitions and quarter over
| quarter demands. And this attitude that is ruining production
| and produced goods in all markets. When you can't innovate or
| continue to grab more of the market, the only way to increase
| profits is to reduce cost of production.
|
| And you end up with a shit quality product.
| constantcrying wrote:
| It is so disgusting to see just limitless amounts of
| "products" that are made without any shred of care put into
| them. And it isn't just the cheap garbage infesting
| everything, even if you pay quite a bit of money the thing
| you get will still have obvious cut corners. Clearly the
| engineers are completely capable of better, but making
| something work more reliable is just the company loosing
| money on the margin and on spare parts.
|
| I have to say I am very glad that I am not working on
| consumer products.
| lnsru wrote:
| Ok, it's a cousin of European Opel Rocks-e or it's clone Citroen
| Ami. Never understood who are the buyers of such vehicles.
| Ideally it's for cities. But cities normally already have public
| transportation. For countryside they are dangerously too slow.
| constantcrying wrote:
| >But cities normally already have public transportation.
|
| Public transportation is slow, especially if you are living in
| the outer parts of a city using a car can easily cut commutes
| in half. Those cars clearly are for cities, but if you think
| public transport comes even close for convenience, speed,
| hygiene, you are not using public transportation.
| brnt wrote:
| The Ami goes 60km/h, that's fast enough for short trips in the
| countryside. In fact, most nonurban roads around here are
| limited at 60 anyway.
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