[HN Gopher] Ask HN: Parents: Best screen-time limiting software?
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       Ask HN: Parents: Best screen-time limiting software?
        
       Recently I set my nine year old up with an old Linux desktop as his
       first real computer. Of course he is set up in the living room, no
       headphones, and with a kids Google account that I can fully
       monitor.  Right now a pain point is trying to set time limits on
       websites (like youtubekids or lego.com) because although I don't
       object to them per se, I also don't want him to spend hours
       browsing the lego website, watching videos, etc.  On iOS devices
       there are good tools that allow granular level time blocking of
       websites, apps, etc. Does anyone know of any tools that allow even
       basic password-protected time blocking on desktop browsers, or a
       cross-platform (iOS/Linux) time limiter?
        
       Author : hazard
       Score  : 14 points
       Date   : 2022-12-11 20:44 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
       | brntsllvn wrote:
       | This might help?
       | 
       | https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/11/time-limits-for...
       | 
       | I use a physical kitchen eggtimer to signal to my son it's time
       | for a break. I joke that the eggtimer is compatible with all
       | operating systems, has less setup and maintenance than any (let's
       | be honest) linux application and generally forces me to get out
       | of my chair to turn it off. It's simple, but it works.
        
       | sorokod wrote:
       | That should be your responsibility mate.
       | 
       | Use a timer if you need one, five min before it rings let your
       | offspring know (no one likes to be interrupted in the middle),
       | once the time is up that is it.
        
         | Someone1234 wrote:
         | > That should be your responsibility mate.
         | 
         | This type of commentary online is contradictory and lazy.
         | 
         | - Parent puts in effort to manage their child's time (and or
         | access).
         | 
         | WHY AREN'T YOU PARENTING?!
         | 
         | - Parent doesn't put in effort to manage their child's time
         | (and or access).
         | 
         | WHY AREN'T YOU PARENTING?!
         | 
         | Plus when a parent really goes whole-hog on the whole
         | protective thing they get criticized for being authoritarian
         | and or not allowing their kid to make mistakes/grow into an
         | adult.
         | 
         | The direct implication here is that a child should only have
         | exactly as much time on technology as the parent has free time
         | to sit behind them and look over their shoulder. Yet if you
         | phased a parent doing that as a question from the child's
         | point-of-view, it would get HEAVILY criticized (and perhaps not
         | incorrectly either). In essence all parenting today exists in a
         | super position (or "Schrodinger's Parenting" if you will)
         | wherein everything they do is incorrect and or a complete
         | contradiction.
         | 
         | Seemingly to comes from two groups:
         | 
         | - Those who have never had kids.
         | 
         | - Those who had kids before technology really existed like it
         | does today.
         | 
         | These people don't really have anything valuable to offer the
         | discussion.
        
       | ycdavidsmith wrote:
       | I use pihole running on our household synology nas. Kids devices
       | are in a group, there's a rule that blocks all DNS lookups. Kids
       | are trained to set timers, and I set one too, and when the timer
       | goes off, I pull out my phone and click the single button that
       | turns off their DNS. There are exceptions for Kahn Academy,
       | Wikipedia, Prodigy Software; maybe will add more as kids age.
       | Been very happy with this setup. And I'll be so proud when they
       | learn to bypass it.
        
       | lencastre wrote:
       | The best advice is no blocking, open and frank conversation,
       | showing interest for what they are watching, and being available
       | when they see something they don't understand.
       | 
       | Every child is different, some will be more addicted to the
       | internet but in different levels and in different ways. And kids
       | are smart, and will find ways to get what they want outside your
       | monitoring.
       | 
       | To guide (not force) them to seek interesting YouTube channels,
       | can be very rewarding, and even healthy. Develop their curiosity
       | and be ready to explain.
       | 
       | In the extreme of blocking and over protection may have the
       | opposite results and resentment.
       | 
       | All this is easier said than done.
       | 
       | Full disclosure: pi-hole, iOS screen time, and Microsoft family
       | safety
        
         | sorokod wrote:
         | Content and time limit are distinct issues. There is much to
         | say about content but time limit is simple:
         | 
         | * there should be one
         | 
         | * it will make no sense to a child as something they enjoy will
         | be taken away for no reason they understand
         | 
         | * It will come down to an argument from authority and one needs
         | to be strong intelligent and sensitive to make that work.
        
       | 10g1k wrote:
       | Best screen time limiting software: parenting.
        
         | shakabrah wrote:
         | Why be a negative twat?
        
       | rawgabbit wrote:
       | If you have a Google Router, you can set up "family wifi" and
       | schedule when your son should be doing his homework instead of
       | being online.
       | https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/7535858#schedul...
        
       | fillskills wrote:
       | You might want to consider something like the Purple Firewalla
       | device that allows to have parental control across your home
       | network. Though kids can always turn off wifi and get around.
       | Link: https://firewalla.com/products/firewalla-purple
        
       | master_crab wrote:
       | Unfortunately/fortunately (depending on your relationship with
       | Apple) iOS is probably the best "general-purpose" OS for limiting
       | screen time. I'm sure there are a lot of in-app tools you can use
       | in android, but nothing for the entire ecosystem
       | 
       | (conversely those in-app controls notoriously make it difficult
       | to unify controls in iOS as well)
        
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