[HN Gopher] DeepMind Dramatron: a new tool for writers to co-wri...
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       DeepMind Dramatron: a new tool for writers to co-write theatre and
       film scripts
        
       Author : mfiguiere
       Score  : 76 points
       Date   : 2022-12-09 15:59 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | seydor wrote:
       | i m sure the model is great, but industrially produced scripts
       | sounds extremely offputting. Art is communication and nobody
       | wants to communicate with a bot. Maybe this would work as an
       | endless roleplaying game or something but theater and film
       | scripts? sounds awful
        
         | bongoman37 wrote:
        
         | hexomancer wrote:
         | > nobody wants to communicate with a bot.
         | 
         | The number of ChatGPT submissions in the past week begs to
         | differ.
        
           | seydor wrote:
           | i use it a lot, but if someone tried to sell its output as a
           | work for art i d laugh
        
             | ilaksh wrote:
             | Have you tried character.ai? Designed for that type of
             | thing.
        
         | Y_Y wrote:
         | Have you watched much of the "original" content on Netflix?
         | Their stuff is incredibly formulaic, but with a good formula
         | and optimised for popularity.
        
         | soulofmischief wrote:
         | I'd like to see you tell the difference in a decade or two.
        
           | trh0awayman wrote:
           | The stuff ChatGPT comes up with sounds funnier and more
           | entertaining than 90% of the current Netflix catalog.
        
             | Melting_Harps wrote:
             | > The stuff ChatGPT comes up with sounds funnier and more
             | entertaining than 90% of the current Netflix catalog.
             | 
             | I just made it write a skit between r/wallstreetbets and
             | Bill Burr during the GME saga... it was not as funny as
             | when I then asked it to write a skit where Bill starts
             | shilling for it.
             | 
             | It might have been something the film adaptation of Wolf of
             | Wall street left on the cutting room floor, even down to
             | the facial descriptors. Try it for yourself, its pretty
             | silly, but so was Wolf of Wall street, and I read the book
             | after the movie because I was told it had more gonzo-like
             | story telling.
        
               | consumer451 wrote:
               | I just tried adding something along the lines of:
               | 
               |  _Tell me a story about ___. Every 2 paragraphs show a
               | very descriptive Dalle-2 prompt for the image which fits
               | into the story._
               | 
               | The result was pretty interesting I thought. ChatGPT did
               | a good job here. I bet it would have been even better
               | with 2022's additional prompt samples found on the
               | internet.
        
               | seydor wrote:
               | you can also ask it to interject some ads
        
               | Melting_Harps wrote:
               | > The result was pretty interesting I thought. ChatGPT
               | did a good job here. I bet it would have been even better
               | with 2022's additional prompt samples found on the
               | internet.
               | 
               | I never got access to DALLE, so I will never know for
               | sure, but this is disrupting visual learning/story
               | telling in real time, so this coupled with a decent sized
               | social media followers and pateron that tech is finally
               | delivering on what the Internet was promising since the
               | days of Geo-sites.
               | 
               | I think writing children's books for example has just
               | gotten easier than ever for a very accessible price
               | (~$15).
        
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         | passion__desire wrote:
         | Imagine providing a complicated visual shape as input and the
         | LLM just generates a story which fits the shape. The shape
         | could be subdivided into patches. We could specify the textures
         | of these patches which could represent emotions, style, wit,
         | pace, etc all blending nicely. So many possibilities. Writers
         | never have to worry about continuity issues or tracking details
         | in their head. In future, book writing would be similar to game
         | development.
        
           | seydor wrote:
           | why would someone read the book though instead of playing the
           | game? At least in the game there is a human (the player). I
           | think reading needs to be a meaningful action
        
       | touringa wrote:
       | This is an older paper, and demo'd here with GPT-3 instead of
       | Chinchilla.
       | 
       | Video of DeepMind Dramatron (Chinchilla version):
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2WEEZ03Nu0
        
       | ls15 wrote:
       | Can't wait to be disappointed by the first fully AI-made movie.
        
         | bpodgursky wrote:
         | Don't be confident you'll know when it happens.
        
           | ls15 wrote:
           | The first one will probably be full of obvious AI artifacts.
           | In Stable Diffusion images the hands give it away.
        
         | visarga wrote:
         | Imagine a parent saying to their kid: Can't wait to be
         | disappointed by your first drawing.
        
       | cosentiyes wrote:
       | Explicitly flagging this llm as a tool for (potentially) writing
       | fiction is a nice way to work on domain-specific text generation
       | while avoiding many of the critiques of Galactica.
        
       | wfhBrian wrote:
       | This is incredibly underwhelming.
       | 
       | It's literally just text inputs.
       | 
       | Each is connected to a prompt and uses content from the previous
       | text input to complete a the prompt for the next input. Inputs
       | are editable at each stage. AKA Prompt chaining.
       | 
       | The "Settings" prompt returned nothing. And the "dialogue" prompt
       | hung up, still saying "Generating..." for five minutes now. And
       | there isn't any other option but to refresh the page.
       | 
       | Still going to check out the attached 100-page research paper,
       | but not as urgently since testing out the app.
        
       | eachro wrote:
       | why are they using OpenAI's language model instead of their own?
        
         | GalahiSimtam wrote:
         | It's a next iteration of an art project
         | https://improbotics.org/
         | 
         | Probably not even a "20% project", more like a "2%" project of
         | these deepminders.
         | 
         | Gotta go - need to hack something like this but for branching
         | dialogue trees
        
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       | fragmede wrote:
       | TIL about Perspective
       | 
       | > Perspective is a free API that helps you host better
       | conversations online. The API uses machine learning models to
       | score the perceived impact a comment might have on a
       | conversation.
       | 
       | Anyone here have experience with it?
        
       | dwohnitmok wrote:
       | Does this actually have any affiliation with DeepMind the
       | company?
        
         | cosentiyes wrote:
         | Yes, this is a companion to https://arxiv.org/abs/2209.14958:
         | "We share many reflections in our published pre-print
         | (Mirowski, Mathewson et al (2022) "Co-Writing Screenplays and
         | Theatre Scripts with Language Models: An Evaluation by Industry
         | Professionals.")"
        
         | av3csr wrote:
         | They do have the repo in their github account
         | https://github.com/deepmind/dramatron
        
       | leesec wrote:
       | Interesting that it appears to be a Deepmind product but using an
       | OpenAI Key. So Deepmind finetuned gpt-3 or similar?
        
         | will_wright wrote:
         | I had this same thought. It makes sense that they would
         | leverage gpt3, given how expensive it was to train. I wonder if
         | they see themselves as competitors?
        
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