[HN Gopher] DC sues Amazon for 'stealing' $60M in tips from Flex...
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       DC sues Amazon for 'stealing' $60M in tips from Flex drivers
        
       Author : mfiguiere
       Score  : 39 points
       Date   : 2022-12-07 19:44 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | yunwal wrote:
       | Now do restaurants
        
       | more_corn wrote:
       | Why is stealing in quotes? Wage theft is stealing. Tip theft is
       | stealing.
        
         | jt2190 wrote:
         | > [District of Columbia Attorney General Karl] Racine's office
         | alleges [that prompting customers to leave tips with the
         | promise that "100 percent" of the money would be given to
         | drivers] violates DC's Consumer Protection Procedures Act,
         | which bars deceptive information about merchants' goods and
         | services...
         | 
         | In other words, the victims in this specific case are
         | consumers, not Flex Drivers. (Yes, this is pedantic and
         | splitting hairs, but that's the way the law works.)
        
         | pifm_guy wrote:
         | I believe the scheme worked like this (numbers are examples):
         | 
         | * Driver's are paid $1 per delivery, plus tips.
         | 
         | * Drivers get a guaranteed weekly take-home of $300, provided
         | they work 30 hours.
         | 
         | * Consumers are allowed to give tips to the driver through the
         | app, and '100% goes to the drivers'.
         | 
         | But... Here's the catch. A typical driver does say 100
         | deliveries and gets $100 of tips in a week. So their take-home
         | (which would be $200) gets increased to $300 by the guarantee.
         | 
         | Now... Who lost out? Where is the fraud? It's unclear... The
         | driver still got everything he was promised. The tips given by
         | the consumer really did end up in the drivers pocket...
         | 
         | But if a consumer is extra generous and gives an extra $50 tip,
         | the driver gets nothing extra - since his total take-home would
         | still be under $300, so would still be topped up to $300 by the
         | company. So effectively the company received the extra
         | generosity. Which isn't what the consumer intended.
        
         | gowld wrote:
        
         | willcipriano wrote:
         | They are quoting the states argument, not making a assertion
         | that Amazon stole anything. After the case is resolved they
         | could potentially use stole without quotes.
        
           | daniel-cussen wrote:
        
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