[HN Gopher] Apple Kills Plans to Scan for CSAM in iCloud
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       Apple Kills Plans to Scan for CSAM in iCloud
        
       Author : ashton314
       Score  : 62 points
       Date   : 2022-12-07 18:32 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.wired.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.wired.com)
        
       | satvikpendem wrote:
       | Have they actually killed it? Or will they resurrect it once the
       | media frenzy dies down?
        
         | concinds wrote:
         | The media frenzy died down a year and a half ago. They
         | announced it's dead for good.
        
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       | mikece wrote:
       | Apple wins points for being less evil than Google but I'm not
       | going to abandon my Graphene OS phone for an iPhone anytime soon.
        
         | testfrequency wrote:
         | Apple wins points for pretending to be less evil, where as
         | Google just owns their business model in clear day
        
           | spanktheuser wrote:
           | I'd love if there was someplace we could go to test this
           | assertion instead of relying on unbacked statements.
           | 
           | I'm not saying it's untrue, but there is a lot of ambiguity
           | in this claim as things stand. Are you referring to abuse of
           | their monopoly power to censor speech? Abuse of same to
           | compromise human rights? Nefarious trickery to subvert their
           | own security model? Use of forced labor to assemble devices?
           | Each is its own form of evil; the evidence for each ranges
           | from beyond doubt to (afaik) non-existent; typing them out
           | every time one wishes to discuss apple is daunting.
        
         | jfghi wrote:
         | Can you describe your phone and software setup? I've installed
         | lineage before but lately have been a little stuck deciding on
         | my next open phone. I'd like to be able to install microg. I
         | don't plan on necessarily using this as a daily phone all phone
         | but have some medical automations that rely on Bluetooth and in
         | a perfect world could have some water resistance or
         | waterproofing.
        
         | throwaway349902 wrote:
         | They needed to release pro-privacy news to balance out the bad
         | press re: AirDrop in China.
        
       | ashton314 wrote:
       | > Children can be protected without companies combing through
       | personal data
       | 
       | Darn right they can.
        
         | unsupp0rted wrote:
         | ... until a couple years from now, when the backlash has died
         | down and Apple feels the government heat again and forgets they
         | ever said this.
        
           | mikestew wrote:
           | Ah, the ever-popular "just you wait" trope. Unfalsifiable at
           | the time it is written, long since forgotten when it turns
           | out to be just another inaccurate contrarian hot take.
        
             | jacooper wrote:
             | Well that certainly worked for WhatsApp, when they delayed
             | the new privacy policy, and then just rolled out when the
             | media coverage died down.
        
             | d0mine wrote:
             | It is the exact opposite. On the one hand there is a real
             | ever present interest of nearly almighty institutions to
             | get the data. On the other there is a whisper about
             | protecting privacy. Blink and you lose (it is like angels
             | from Doctor Who).
             | 
             | Or you one of those people who doesn't believe that e.g.,
             | gmail is easily searchable by the "right" people?
        
       | hobbitstan wrote:
       | 'Research has consistently shown, though, that end-to-end
       | encryption is a vital safety tool for protecting human rights and
       | that the downsides of its implementation do not outweigh the
       | benefits.'
       | 
       | The 'downsides' being combating the mass rape of children.
        
         | aaomidi wrote:
         | iCloud is not e2ee. Not sure why that's relevant.
        
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