[HN Gopher] If you unscrew your belly button, your bottom will f...
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       If you unscrew your belly button, your bottom will fall off
        
       Author : ecornflak
       Score  : 328 points
       Date   : 2022-12-05 11:00 UTC (12 hours ago)
        
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       | codazoda wrote:
       | Nice read. I really like the idea of writing lessons learned from
       | a person when they pass.
        
       | vinay_ys wrote:
       | Nice writing. Made me feel warm remembering a few people with
       | similar persona from my childhood days. I feel there were a lot
       | of people with similar persona in my dad's generation. Ubiquitous
       | connectivity via Mobile/Internet and how much our cities/towns
       | have changed makes it difficult for this persona to exist today.
        
       | JustSomeNobody wrote:
       | No... It is: If you unbutton your belly button, your legs will
       | fall off.
       | 
       | :)
        
       | jasebell wrote:
       | First place I heard that question was on a Jasper Carrott concert
       | from the late 70s. :)
        
       | xanathar wrote:
       | I hope my dad is partying with yours in the ahem great-
       | ISO-9000-in-the-sky. They would enjoy each other's company. And I
       | would enjoy his, would give anything for 10. more. minutes.
        
       | jawadch93 wrote:
        
       | mcphage wrote:
       | This was just lovely :-)
        
       | camkego wrote:
       | Beautiful.
        
       | RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote:
       | > Maureen must have been skeptical, but Mum immediately backed up
       | Dad's story.
       | 
       | The author's mom also sounds pretty cool.
       | 
       | Having a significant other who is on the same wavelength as you
       | as who is your partner even in silly stuff is one of the
       | underrated blessings in life.
        
       | [deleted]
        
       | timonoko wrote:
       | I used pincers and fished out _massive_ piece of navel lint the
       | other day. It was quite solid. And there was white strands
       | growing from it, somekind of mildew.
       | 
       | I was aware of danger of scratching yores navel, so I doused the
       | area with Alcool and Betadine.
        
         | wkjagt wrote:
         | When my first kid was born, I planned to start preserving my
         | navel fur to be able to knit him a sweater for his 18th
         | birthday. I regret that I never got around to that. He's 15 now
         | and I don't think 3 years will yield enough for a sweater.
         | Socks, maybe, but I'd always see those as a symbol of my lack
         | of perseverance.
        
           | somedude895 wrote:
           | No way! I've been collecting it for three years now, planning
           | to create felt plushies with it brand name is Nabelfilz.
           | Sadly during the pandemic the harvest was bad, since
           | production requires fabric and friction and I wasn't wearing
           | shirts or walking much.
        
         | robin_reala wrote:
         | Omphalolith? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omphalolith
        
       | thieving_magpie wrote:
       | My grandfather told me a version of this story and I have been
       | lucky to tell my kids (who loved it).
       | 
       | Our version:
       | 
       | There was once a boy that was born with a golden screw where his
       | belly button should be. This made him very self-conscious about
       | it. The kids at school would tease him about his golden screw and
       | lack of belly button. It was so bad that he didn't want to remove
       | his shirt when swimming.
       | 
       | One day his class took a field trip to the beach. The boy didn't
       | want to remove his shirt, so he walked along the beach kicking
       | the sand. He was very sad. Suddenly, his foot hurt from kicking
       | something hard in the sand. He looked down and discovered a
       | golden screwdriver.
       | 
       | His eyes brightened and he felt this must be some divine
       | intervention. He immediately removed his shirt, grabbed the
       | golden screwdriver and began to carefully unscrew the golden
       | screw. This was the moment. He unscrewed it and finally this
       | golden screw that had cursed him his whole life came out
       | <dramatic pause> then his butt fell off.
       | 
       | <cue 6 year old laughing>
        
         | poizan42 wrote:
         | A variant of this version is in The Wise Man's Fear by Patrick
         | Rothfuss:
         | 
         | > "Once upon a time," I began. "There was a little boy born in
         | a little town. He was perfect, or so his mother thought. But
         | one thing was different about him. He had a gold screw in his
         | belly button. Just the head of it peeping out.
         | 
         | > "Now his mother was simply glad he had all his fingers and
         | toes to count with. But as the boy grew up he realized not
         | everyone had screws in their belly buttons, let alone gold
         | ones. He asked his mother what it was for, but she didn't know.
         | Next he asked his father, but his father didn't know. He asked
         | his grandparents, but they didn't know either.
         | 
         | > "That settled it for a while, but it kept nagging him.
         | Finally, when he was old enough, he packed a bag and set out,
         | hoping he could find someone who knew the truth of it.
         | 
         | > "He went from place to place, asking everyone who claimed to
         | know something about anything. He asked midwives and
         | physickers, but they couldn't make heads or tails of it. The
         | boy asked arcanists, tinkers, and old hermits living in the
         | woods, but no one had ever seen anything like it.
         | 
         | > "He went to ask the Cealdim merchants, thinking if anyone
         | would know about gold, it would be them. But the Cealdim
         | merchants didn't know. He went to the arcanists at the
         | University, thinking if anyone would know about screws and
         | their workings, they would. But the arcanists didn't know. The
         | boy followed the road over the Stormwal to ask the witch women
         | of the Tahl, but none of them could give him an answer.
         | 
         | > "Eventually he went to the King of Vint, the richest king in
         | the world. But the king didn't know. He went to the Emperor of
         | Atur, but even with all his power, the emperor didn't know. He
         | went to each of the small kingdoms, one by one, but no one
         | could tell him anything.
         | 
         | > "Finally the boy went to the High King of Modeg, the wisest
         | of all the kings in the world. The high king looked closely at
         | the head of the golden screw peeping from the boy's belly
         | button. Then the high king made a gesture, and his seneschal
         | brought out a pillow of golden silk. On that pillow was a
         | golden box. The high king took a golden key from around his
         | neck, opened the box, and inside was a golden screwdriver.
         | 
         | > "The high king took the screwdriver and motioned the boy to
         | come closer. Trembling with excitement, the boy did. Then the
         | high king took the golden screwdriver and put it in the boy's
         | belly button."
         | 
         | > I paused to take a long drink of water. I could feel my small
         | audience leaning toward me. "Then the
         | 
         | > high king carefully turned the golden screw. Once: Nothing.
         | Twice: Nothing. Then he turned it the third time, and the boy's
         | ass fell off."
         | 
         | > There was a moment of stunned silence.
         | 
         | > "What?" Hespe asked incredulously.
         | 
         | > "His ass fell off."
        
           | cloudmike wrote:
           | Seeing a masterful Rothfuss excerpt right next to its lesser,
           | AI-generated counterpart (in a sibling comment) gives me
           | pause, today.
        
         | TedDoesntTalk wrote:
         | Can't wait to use this!!
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | bmcahren wrote:
         | ChatGPT is the best:
         | 
         | Once upon a time, there was a young man named Jack who had a
         | golden screw in place of his belly button. Jack was very self-
         | conscious about this unique feature, but he soon discovered
         | that it had some incredible powers.
         | 
         | One day, Jack was walking through the forest when he came
         | across a beautiful fairy. The fairy was in distress and begged
         | Jack to help her. She explained that she was being held captive
         | by a wicked witch and needed someone to rescue her.
         | 
         | Without hesitation, Jack agreed to help the fairy and set off
         | on an adventure to defeat the witch. Along the way, he
         | encountered many challenges, including fierce beasts and
         | treacherous obstacles.
         | 
         | But with the help of his golden screw, Jack was able to
         | overcome each challenge and finally reached the witch's castle.
         | He battled the witch, using his golden screw to conjure up
         | powerful spells and defeat her.
         | 
         | The fairy was grateful to Jack and rewarded him with a magical
         | amulet that granted him the ability to fly. With this new
         | power, Jack flew back home, feeling proud of his bravery and
         | accomplishment.
         | 
         | Years later, Jack discovered that the golden screw could do
         | even more than he had initially thought. He realized that he
         | could use it to shape-shift into any form he desired.
         | 
         | Excited by this new discovery, Jack began experimenting with
         | his newfound ability. He turned into a bird, a fish, and even a
         | dragon. But one day, he accidentally turned into a duck and
         | couldn't change back.
         | 
         | Feeling frustrated and embarrassed, Jack decided to give up his
         | powers and return to his human form. He unscrewed the golden
         | screw and, to his horror, his butt fell off.
        
           | m463 wrote:
           | lol, I'm sure you could shaggy-dog any joke this way.
           | 
           | I remember the Leisure Suit Larry punchlines, and wonder if
           | you could reverse engineer jokes from the punchline, or make
           | up punchlines and see if there's a joke to be made.
           | 
           | "...and there stood the pig and the cow!"
        
           | the_sleaze9 wrote:
           | The story doesn't matter, it's the <cue 6 year old laughter>
           | that makes it good.
        
         | onepointsixC wrote:
         | I'm most certainly going to steal this.
        
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       | trifit wrote:
       | This got me in the feels regarding my father, who's bbeen my rock
       | through and through.
        
       | dehrmann wrote:
       | > the great ISO9000 audit conference in the sky
       | 
       | Not exactly my idea of heaven.
        
       | b1c837696ba28b wrote:
       | "When you turn 12 you will have to get your belly button re-
       | tied."
        
       | eastbound wrote:
       | > This, along with the "lying still game" and many other "games"
       | ensured hours of peace and quiet for adults trying to
       | 
       | It's funny how fathering is about using a thousand tricks to make
       | kids go through life even when they don't want. And another part
       | is politeness rules teach kids to be convenient for the parents,
       | for example "don't play with food, there's kids in Africa" was
       | never about African kids and more about cleaning up the floor.
       | 
       | Whenever I cried, my father would say "Don't put your mouth in
       | W". How can you not laugh at that. We'll it doesn't teach to
       | negotiate, I don't remember my parents bending for anything,
       | they'd use gimmicks to get out of the situation. If it's not good
       | to let kids get spoilt, bending from time to time teaches them
       | how to use a little seduction to ask for things.
       | 
       | I also remember my father coming back from a disabled-school
       | visit, and he'd tell me that a kid taught him in sign language "I
       | - love - working", and that's the most beautiful thing he had
       | ever heard. Or seen.
       | 
       | So that's it, I don't know how to complain properly, don't know
       | how to seduce, and I work all the time. I became deadweight for
       | my parents at 40, since I'm single, millionaire and incel, but at
       | least they had nothing to worry concerning impregnating women,
       | doing drugs or not working enough.
        
         | guntherhermann wrote:
         | > I don't know how to complain properly
         | 
         | Oh I don't know, I think you're doing a fine job of it.
         | 
         | All of those things you complain about not being able to do,
         | you know that you can't do them.
         | 
         | If you know you can't do them, and want to do them, then you
         | can learn how.
         | 
         | Alternatively, you can lay your issues at your parents feet and
         | mope about how hard your life is as a millionaire.
        
           | wruza wrote:
           | _If you know you can 't do them, and want to do them, then
           | you can learn how._
           | 
           | Some people learn how and just do it.
           | 
           | Other people learn how and just do it.
           | 
           | You can't see a difference until you get in these "other"
           | shoes and realize how much unreasonable, irrational,
           | disorienting discomfort they give. But minds aren't shoes so
           | you can't just try on that.
        
             | guntherhermann wrote:
             | Assuming they are otherwise physically and mentally
             | capable, they can do it if they want to do it.
             | 
             | The hardest thing about life is not knowing.
             | 
             | Once you know that you don't know something, then you can
             | try to know it.
             | 
             | I am talking as someone who spent a significant amount of
             | my life thinking that I had to live and was consigned to
             | living in one particular way, because I didn't know any
             | other choice was open to me.
        
               | wruza wrote:
               | Right, but the assumption in this argument is too
               | narrowing. When people get anxious of e.g. complaining,
               | it's their mental inability, not just lack of a proper
               | method. People get anxious and procrastinative (which may
               | be a result of unnoticed anxiety) a lot. It's not
               | something affecting only around 1%.
        
           | TheCapn wrote:
           | Ignoring the moping millionaire part he's got some truth to
           | what he's saying. I'm confronting this now as a new parent
           | while thinking about how I want to raise my son vs. how I was
           | raised by my father.
           | 
           | OPs point to all the distracting tricks rings true for me.
           | Very much a "my way or the highway" household I grew up in,
           | and although I don't feel there was major _harm_ from the
           | upbringing, I can see where the gaps in my development
           | originated. Like OP, I don 't do confrontation well. I don't
           | have a healthy grasp of expressing desire or wants. I find it
           | difficult to have healthy debate with others. It's mostly a
           | habit of avoiding the conversation because I was taught
           | during childhood/teens that things will be done like _this_
           | so there 's no point in arguing.
           | 
           | It isn't so simple as that overall though, but I do heavily
           | look at the type of upbringing I was given and how it
           | contributes overall. I want to do better for my son, and
           | avoiding the easy "tricks" to get kids to quiet down and
           | behave (be less like kids) is something I'm aiming to avoid.
        
             | ska wrote:
             | > I want to raise my son vs. how I was raised by my father.
             | 
             | What many (most?) people do is overcompensate to not make
             | the same obvious errors their parents made, and thereby
             | make a different series of errors.
        
             | guntherhermann wrote:
             | Oh, I completely get it. I think those of us who are new
             | parents are of a particular generation.
             | 
             | I was brought up with "Stop crying or I'll give you
             | something to cry about", my parents would get angry that I
             | didn't know how to do something (well you're the teacher,
             | how is it my fault you didn't teach me!), and shouting. A
             | lot of shouting.
             | 
             | It has definitely affected me, even now if my wife shouts
             | me from downstairs get that feeling of being a child again,
             | waiting to be smacked for something I've supposedly done
             | wrong. I think it will always be there.
             | 
             | However, my parents had it much worse than me. They were
             | born into poverty and their parents were dysfunctional,
             | raging alcoholics who didn't provide for them. As a child
             | my dad had to break into abandoned warehouses to pull up
             | floorboards to use as firewood, because HIS dad was too
             | busy pissing away his money in the pub and on gambling.
             | 
             | That they managed to come out and raise kids in a more
             | loving environment than the one they grew up in is a
             | testament to them.
             | 
             | I think most of us want our children to have a better life
             | than the one we had. People are human, people make
             | mistakes.
             | 
             | I forgive my parents for the mistakes they made, because I
             | know that even for the things they made me do that I still
             | detest and think they are wrong for making me do, they did
             | it for the right reasons, they still loved me. And I love
             | them
        
           | eastbound wrote:
           | >> I don't know how to complain properly
           | 
           | > Oh I don't know, I think you're doing a fine job of it.
           | 
           | :D If I knew, I would address the issues with the right
           | person and solve them.
           | 
           | So I ended up speaking to computers instead. The rest is so
           | dark that I shouldn't tell it online, but honestly, you
           | should stop being hateful towards anybody. Any human. Anyone.
           | Don't do that. Hard no. You are creating hate when you hate
           | people. And man millionaires can be as violent as any other
           | man, as uncaring, as ... We're no special race. Wasn't born
           | with a silver spoon either, I was making the point that it
           | was hard work and no life balance that led me here, not
           | privilege or inheritance, just good sustained work, moving
           | until it worked, and lacking social attachment. So I'm gonna
           | go back to my computer and try forgetting about how people
           | like you intentionally ruined my life.
           | 
           | Don't.
        
         | centilliard wrote:
         | Imagine you're a function whose implementation body is written
         | over time by you (the conscience). Your function is invoked
         | once at your birth and seizes to execute when you die.
         | 
         | * You don't control what arguments are passed to your function
         | 
         | * But you do have complete control over the implementation
         | 
         | It's OK to verify your arguments, but then, once you realized
         | you've been given less-than-ideal values, you don't have to
         | continue processing them. Stop writing code that depends on
         | these inputs and write your own implementation as if those
         | arguments never existed. You're not the product of your input
         | values, they're just there and it's your decision whether to
         | use them or not.
         | 
         | Also, how are you dead weight if you're a millionaire? This
         | would mean your parents are carrying you. Buy a house and GTFO
         | then. Visit your parents once in a while. Call your mom.
        
         | fritztastic wrote:
         | I can't speak to everyone's experience or abilities, but I can
         | say that one of the hardest things about overcoming abuse is
         | identifying what reality is and distinguishing the difference
         | between what is true about who/what you are and something you
         | are gping through as a result of the experiences you had.
         | 
         | Between the inflexible authoritarian way my parents were, and
         | the coping mechanisms I used to make it through the years I
         | lived with them, it was a many-years-long journey later on in
         | my adult life (and still ongoing) to work back through the
         | layers and shift the foundations from where they were
         | involuntarily built to where I wanted them to be.
         | 
         | I have a particular grief, for the time in my life I could have
         | been more like who I may have been had it not been for abuse
         | and trauma. The years of lost experiences and mistakes that may
         | have been much less arduous had it not been for the coping
         | mechanisms I adopted for survival. When you say you don't know
         | how to complain- I think it may be more accurate that you may
         | have trouble with communicating with/relating to other people,
         | or you can't find the proper way to articulate how big of an
         | impact or determine at what point something is really part of
         | you or a mindspace you find yourself in.
         | 
         | I spent a long time trying to deal with it on my own, but where
         | I really started to make traction was talking to a professional
         | and actually being honest, painfully so when it came to my
         | dysfunctional way of dealing with intimacy. After some years I
         | was able to begin admitting where I was the source of my own
         | anguish and forgiving myself but also taking accountability of
         | putting in the work to change what I could so I could live life
         | more functionally and really be able to experience things
         | without that weight I hadn't realized I had been carrying all
         | along. To an extent I had become attached to it and it became
         | an extension of me, a part of my identity.
         | 
         | My family in general was (in some ways still is) incredibly
         | problematic, and I've come to realize a lot of the problems
         | started with a desire to be validated and/or accepted by the
         | parental figures. Not saying this is the case for everyone, but
         | it is possible to forgive people (and still love them, if you
         | wish) who caused a lot of harm, and work to heal. You deserved
         | better, and future you can find what you yearn- it's not an
         | easy road working through all that but there is hope to be
         | found in the process which may not have felt feasible
         | otherwise.
        
           | bfoks wrote:
           | Can you share which therapetic techniques were most benficial
           | for you? EMDR, Somatic Experiencing, something else?
        
         | ambicapter wrote:
         | Well this comment took a turn in the last few minutes.
        
           | homonculus1 wrote:
           | How slow do you read??
        
         | class4behavior wrote:
         | >And another part is politeness rules teach kids to be
         | convenient for the parents, for example "don't play with food,
         | there's kids in Africa" was never about African kids and more
         | about cleaning up the floor.
         | 
         | Seriously? You don't see the problem in nurturing the
         | (subconscious) view of African standing for the malnourished,
         | poor, disadvatage, and so on?
        
           | salawat wrote:
           | You don't see the utility of pointing out that being in a
           | position to "play with food" is not a given, paired with a
           | real life counterexample?
           | 
           | Stop seeing racism in everything. If you keep holding ypur
           | mind like that, it'll freeze that way.
        
             | class4behavior wrote:
             | The need to educate a person not to waste food or about
             | one's privileged life has absolutely no dependence on your
             | example, nor is the latter inherently about racism, unless
             | that is your actual motivation, or a real life
             | counterexample. You just pointed to a convolution of
             | stereotypes about a continent, which is quite the irony
             | when you wish to teach about privilege.
             | 
             | And your lame counter-accusation is basically a common
             | rebuke of your average actual racist.
        
               | eastbound wrote:
               | More over, the original "don't waste your food" trope
               | hides hypocrisy, because those parents don't necessarily
               | care about African children. They care about cleaning up.
               | Some actually care about Africa, but it's disjoint from
               | keeping kids clean.
        
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         | wruza wrote:
         | Man this resonates. My parents (who were grandparents) were 1)
         | industrial electronics hard worker type, 2) stay away don't
         | speak too much something might happen what can you do type.
         | Guess whom they raised.
        
       | 5tefan wrote:
       | Loved reading it. Fantastic piece. That writing got very close to
       | me, watery eyes and so and I also read it from my perspective of
       | being a dad of a small child right now.
        
       | denton-scratch wrote:
       | > the ancient Lancastrian martial art of Ecky Thump
       | 
       | I thought Ecky Thoomp was from Yorkshire (via the Goodies).
        
         | voidmain0001 wrote:
         | And I thought it was a White Stripes song/album title.
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icky_Thump_(song)
        
         | ecornflak wrote:
         | My father was originally from Manchester and there is a good
         | chance he borrowed heavily.
        
         | mc_woods wrote:
         | That's civil war talk right there... :)
        
       | once_inc wrote:
       | As time progresses my respect, love, and admiration for my
       | parents increases. They didn't do a perfect job, but they did it
       | perfectly.
        
         | hprotagonist wrote:
         | _Sundays too my father got up early
         | 
         | and put his clothes on in the blueblack cold,
         | 
         | then with cracked hands that ached
         | 
         | from labor in the weekday weather made
         | 
         | banked fires blaze. No one ever thanked him.
         | 
         | I'd wake and hear the cold splintering, breaking.
         | 
         | When the rooms were warm, he'd call,
         | 
         | and slowly I would rise and dress,
         | 
         | fearing the chronic angers of that house,
         | 
         | Speaking indifferently to him,
         | 
         | who had driven out the cold
         | 
         | and polished my good shoes as well.
         | 
         | What did I know, what did I know
         | 
         | of love's austere and lonely offices?_
         | 
         | Robert Hayden, "Those Winter Sundays"
        
           | circlefavshape wrote:
           | Oh dear. This has made me a bit teary
        
             | hprotagonist wrote:
             | it worked!
        
         | nemo44x wrote:
         | Once you have kids for yourself, only then can you finally
         | realize how much your parents (hopefully) loved you.
        
         | 11235813213455 wrote:
         | what's also fun is "perfect" just means "done" from its latin
         | roots
        
         | kangalioo wrote:
         | They didn't do it perfectly but they did it perfectly? Do you
         | have two different definitions for "perfect" and are mixing
         | them?
        
           | Cpoll wrote:
           | Sometimes you do a perfect job, and sometimes you do a bad
           | job perfectly.
           | 
           | But to avoid any more wordplay: Sometimes you need to use a
           | flawed technique to achieve an end. You can execute that
           | flawed technique perfectly, but that won't make it a perfect
           | job.
        
             | FrankyHollywood wrote:
             | Indeed, the 'perfect path' in life is not perfect. Life has
             | so many paths, everything is a trade off. Spent more time
             | with your kids? You loose time with friends etc. Whatever
             | you do or choose in life, it means you can't do all the
             | other stuff.
             | 
             | There were interesting comments about 'having regrets'
             | previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33118584
        
           | ryanianian wrote:
           | I think you've missed the poetry.
        
         | kybernetyk wrote:
         | I completely agree with you. As we grow older and gain more
         | life experiences, we are able to see and appreciate the hard
         | work and sacrifices that our parents made for us. Even though
         | they may not have done everything perfectly, their love and
         | dedication to their family is truly admirable. It's important
         | to recognize and show gratitude for their efforts and support.
        
       | sandreas wrote:
       | This reminds me of Patrick Rothfuss' The Wise Man's Fear... seems
       | that his dad told him a similar story :-)
       | 
       | > "Once upon a time," I began. "There was a little boy born in a
       | little town. He was perfect, or so his mother thought. But one
       | thing was different about him. He had a gold screw in his belly
       | button. Just the head of it peeping out.
        
         | anonporridge wrote:
         | The joke goes back to at least 1971 based on it's appearance in
         | a book of Isaac Asimov's favorite jokes, https://old.reddit.com
         | /r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/3uul26.... I'm sure it's much
         | older. My father also told a version of it back in the 80s.
         | 
         | Screws and screwdrivers are at least 500 years old, so this
         | joke could have been mutating around its core punchline through
         | generations for quite a long time before it was first written
         | down.
        
           | ecornflak wrote:
           | My Dad was an avid sci fi reader, I feel this is probably
           | where he borrowed from :)
        
       | jojobas wrote:
       | The belly button joke is very old and widespread, I believe my
       | father was warned by his father.
        
         | berkes wrote:
         | The brother of an old friend got curious, went downstairs
         | really early in the morning, found his dad's tools, and tried
         | to unscrew his bottom. He poked around in his belly-button with
         | a screw-driver until it started bleeding. This guy became one
         | of the best car-mechanics later on in life.
        
           | mbg721 wrote:
           | Great, now my Navel Pressure Monitoring System sensors chime
           | every time I start the ignition.
        
         | BurningPenguin wrote:
         | So widespread, it apparently transcends borders. My
         | grandparents used that one a few times. Hello from Germany. :)
        
         | kawsper wrote:
         | My parents told me that you get a hole in your belly if you eat
         | gum.
         | 
         | As a child I panicked once because I accidentally swallowed
         | some gum, it's a mean thing to lie about :(
        
           | _0ffh wrote:
           | I think some people used to believe that a swallowed piece of
           | gum might cause appendicitis. I don't know how accurate that
           | belief is, but maybe your parents weren't trying to be mean,
           | just cautious.
        
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           | themadturk wrote:
           | My wife was terrorized by her older siblings, who told her if
           | she swallowed a watermelon seed she would wake up dead the
           | next morning.
        
           | zB2sj38WHAjYnvm wrote:
           | My parents told me something very similar about gum, and a
           | whole lot of other weird things over the years. Is this a
           | universal experience? I wonder if it's a helpful evolutionary
           | trait, sort of like training your "mental immune system" the
           | same way that your mother chewing your food and feeding it to
           | you, germs and all, strengthens your actual immune system.
        
             | jojobas wrote:
             | What's the stimulus and response if you tell your kid a
             | joke/lie and never let him figure out it was a joke?
             | 
             | The correct way would be to intermingle jokes with truths
             | and telling/laughing some time after they swallow the lies
             | they should have doubted.
             | 
             | My kids seem to doubt everything they hear (pain in the bum
             | for teachers), yet almost religiously believe everything
             | I've told "for real".
        
             | denton-scratch wrote:
             | > Is this a universal experience?
             | 
             | What, being spun some BS by your parents?
             | 
             | My mother told me that picking my nose would result in my
             | nose becoming like a cow's nose. She was right; my face is
             | now indistinguishable from a cow's.
        
             | wruza wrote:
             | Yes, it is universal, at least in my circle. I think it's
             | not a trait, but simply our evolutional tolerance to stupid
             | things parents say when it comes to parenting or to just
             | being reasonable. You don't die from not swallowing a gum,
             | avoiding black cats or praying to invisible dude. So these
             | things can live ages.
             | 
             | Only to my 30s I began to realize _how much_ of this non-
             | contextual nonsense was put in my mind, from gums to
             | proverbs to rules to... basically everything was a subject
             | for reevaluation.
        
             | TeMPOraL wrote:
             | Not sure how helpful it is. I wasn't told much lies as a
             | kid. Plenty of wrong things, yes, but those were all common
             | misconceptions (some still widely held by people today,
             | plenty of them present on this Wikipedia list[0]).
             | 
             | Someone close to me, however, was told a lot of such lies
             | in their childhood, and continued to believe them into
             | adulthood. When we met during our university years, I
             | unknowingly debunked a few of those stories during casual
             | conversations, and the person later thanked me and told me
             | that, sadly, this completely shattered the trust they had
             | for their father.
             | 
             | ----
             | 
             | [0] -
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions
        
               | TedDoesntTalk wrote:
               | > this completely shattered the trust they had for their
               | father.
               | 
               | Friend of mine felt this way when he learned the truth
               | about Santa Claus. No joke.
        
               | hamburglar wrote:
               | I'd tell my kids a lot fewer lies if they actually fell
               | for them. Half the fun (and the entire point) is watching
               | them get a more and more sophisticated nose for bullshit.
        
               | salawat wrote:
               | If you get in contact with your friend: point out to them
               | that part of being a parent is building up an
               | independent, bullshit tolerant, reality questioning
               | adult.
               | 
               | If none of the things you debunked were serious, then it
               | may have been seed planting for later epiphanies.
               | 
               | I've made very sure that the kiddos I spend time with
               | have a rich mix of truths, half-truths, and jolly
               | equivocations to sort through in their life, and they
               | have no end of fun working their way to proving me wrong.
               | 
               | I consider this an investment in their future development
               | of bullshit filters to keep things running when mine have
               | finally given up the ghost (May it not happen in the
               | forseeable future).
        
             | danuker wrote:
             | > your mother chewing your food and feeding it to you,
             | germs and all, strengthens your actual immune system.
             | 
             | [citation needed]
        
               | rsynnott wrote:
               | The comment you're replying to was obviously written by a
               | bird.
        
               | danuker wrote:
               | Do birds chew gum?
        
               | nmridul wrote:
               | The "bird" didn't mention chewing gum.. They take
               | plastic, so possible they can also take gums..
               | 
               | https://www.blastic.eu/knowledge-bank/impacts/plastic-
               | ingest...
        
               | soco wrote:
               | First hand account here from back in the 80s of grandmas
               | chewing adult food for babies. No they were not birds but
               | humans, all of them. Make what you want with this
               | information.
        
               | robocat wrote:
               | I read a comment recently by a person born in an Asian
               | country, where it was normal for babies or children to be
               | fed by their parents "pre-masticated". Makes complete
               | sense to me. You might also do it for someone who was
               | ill.
               | 
               | They mentioned that getting fed food was something they
               | still occasionally did, that it was a supremely intimate
               | thing to do.
        
             | endtime wrote:
             | My eight-year-olds have gotten quite good at detecting when
             | I'm pulling their legs. I never deceive them about anything
             | serious, but I want them to learn to think critically about
             | what authority figures tell them. My five-year-old is
             | thoroughly convinced I can read his mind by putting my nose
             | to his ear and smelling his brain; I established
             | credibility when I was confident I knew what he was
             | thinking. It works great for "I'm not tired" when he
             | clearly is, or "my tummy is full" after two bites of food.
             | Also, if he eats his eggs, at bedtime he will be strong
             | enough to win a wrestling match with me.
             | 
             | I also enjoy planting small "easter eggs" for them...e.g.
             | whenever we drive through the Holland Tunnel I hum the
             | Super Mario underground theme, which I have explained
             | simply as "tunnel music". One day they'll get it.
        
             | implements wrote:
             | It's bad enough when they spit on a hanky and wipe your
             | face with it!
        
               | numeromancer wrote:
               | Civilized mothers use covfefe.
        
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         | starkd wrote:
         | It reminds me of a line in a Sopranos episode. Only it
         | substituted penis for bottom.
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHmsqjm4lV0
        
           | hardlianotion wrote:
           | That actually seems more realistic.
        
         | akrain wrote:
         | I can't recall the exact lines but Thomas Pynchon's V. has an
         | interesting variation of this story.
        
           | owlglass wrote:
           | "Somehow it was all tied up with a story he'd heard once,
           | about a boy born with a golden screw where his navel should
           | have been. For twenty years he consults doctors and
           | specialists all over the world, trying to get rid of this
           | screw, and having no success. Finally, in Haiti, he runs into
           | a voodoo doctor who gives him a foul-smelling potion.
           | 
           | He drinks it, goes to sleep and has a dream. In this dream he
           | finds himself on a street, lit by green lamps. Following the
           | witch-man's instructions, he takes two rights and a left from
           | his point of origin, finds a tree growing by the seventh
           | street light, hung all over with colored balloons. On the
           | fourth limb from the top there is a red balloon; he breaks it
           | and inside is a screwdriver with a yellow plastic handle.
           | With the screwdriver he removes the screw from his stomach,
           | and as soon as this happens he wakes from the dream. It is
           | morning. He looks down toward his navel, the screw is gone.
           | That twenty years' curse is lifted at last. Delirious with
           | joy, he leaps up out of bed, and his ass falls off."
           | 
           | I thought of the same thing when I read the title of the post
           | as well. Lovely book, made me laugh many times.
        
         | ecornflak wrote:
         | It's interesting to find this out!
        
       | a_c wrote:
       | Unrelated, I fat fingered on a link without noticing. I was
       | confused as to why the content I'm reading is completely
       | unrelated to what I read 30s before.
       | 
       | This website is fast.
        
         | Veen wrote:
         | Exceptionally so for a WordPress site.
        
           | rahimnathwani wrote:
           | The theme he's using claims to be the fastest WordPress
           | theme:
           | 
           | https://generatepress.com/generatepress-3-0-a-new-era/
        
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