[HN Gopher] On the Gift of Longhand
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       On the Gift of Longhand
        
       Author : wawayanda
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2022-12-03 13:16 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | flappyeagle wrote:
       | The Pen Addict is a one stop source for info. He does a top-5 in
       | every practical category.
       | 
       | As a gear junkie I started with a Pilot Metropolitan, went into
       | all sorts of directions and price points and landed back on the
       | same Pilot I started on.
       | 
       | My advice for my younger self: Get one in medium and fine,
       | upgrade to their premium ink (iroshizuku), and get to writing.
       | check back every 5 years to see if anything changed (it won't
       | have)
        
       | AceyMan wrote:
       | The Twsbi line is really impressive; the Eco, in particular, is
       | an especially great value.
       | 
       | (=> I'm in my 50s and started to retrain my longhand during the
       | pandemic & concurrently dove into the fountain pen rabbit hole.)
        
       | raintrees wrote:
       | I use a Cross with their refillable ink cartridge. Couple of
       | bottles of a beautiful dark-blue (blue-black) hue of ink from
       | Japan. And when traveling, I converted a medicine losenge tin
       | (think similar to Altoids) to hold a possible spent refillable
       | ink cartridge without it getting too messy - The bottles of ink
       | do not travel well, potentially creating quite the mess. Instead,
       | once it runs out (dozens of pages of notes later) I switch to
       | disposable cartridges of blue-black ink.
       | 
       | And I keep a .9 mechanical pencil handy, just in case I am really
       | prolific and supply stores are not easily found :)
        
       | DrBazza wrote:
       | I bought a hand turned fountain pen recently for around PS100,
       | and it is really nice to write with. A little bit like the
       | article author, a nice fountain pen has made me enjoy writing
       | again and I'm probably writing more than I have in years.
       | 
       | Maybe it's one of those things, but I'd never considered buying a
       | "good" pen before, and now I have I appreciate how poor all the
       | commodity pens are.
        
         | tartoran wrote:
         | You can buy a great fountain pen for much less than that. Lamy
         | Safari costs around $30 and is pleasant to write with. I got 2
         | with different nibs and played with them for a while till the
         | novelty wore off.
        
           | christophilus wrote:
           | Muji has a good one for something like $20. I use mine daily.
        
             | CiceroCiceronis wrote:
             | I bought the Muji one just recently after thinking that I
             | wanted a fountain pen, and I definitely recommend it.
        
           | DrBazza wrote:
           | It's hand turned, profiled, and lacquered. It's really nice.
           | And the nib is fantastic.
        
           | bikenaga wrote:
           | I have two Lamy Safaris (fine, extra fine) and they're good
           | pens. I think the barrels are ABS plastic - very durable,
           | good if you're going to toss the pen in a backpack or aren't
           | too careful about how you carry it around, easy to clean. The
           | converter was saving me roughly 5 - 10 times over the cost of
           | ink cartridges. The drawbacks: The grip seemed a little
           | slippery, even though it's sculptured. The extra fine nib
           | produced a line that was a little wider than I wanted. The
           | converter doesn't hold much ink.
           | 
           | I switched to the TWSBI Eco extra fine. The line is tight and
           | precise (good for subscripts with subscripts), the pen is
           | easy to grip, the piston fill gives roughly 3 times the ink
           | capacity as the Lamy converters, and the clear barrel allows
           | you to see how much ink is left. The TWSBI is roughly the
           | same price as the Safari.
           | 
           | I do much more writing since I started using fountain pens,
           | and it's changed my work habits. I think better when writing
           | than when typing (maybe) - but in any event, it's fun to
           | write with good instruments. Reading physical books and
           | writing with pen and paper are good ways for me to resist the
           | urge to stare at a screen.
           | 
           | (I get my pens from JetPens. I noticed a while ago complaints
           | on Amazon about some of the Lamys possibly being counterfeits
           | - no way to confirm, don't know if it's still an issue.)
        
           | dumpsterlid wrote:
           | Or the pilot metropolitan! I think the pilots have the best
           | nibs on lowcost pens. Stay away from most german fountain pen
           | makers, they are superrrt inconsistent with whether their
           | nibs are tuned well out of the box.
        
           | ThePadawan wrote:
           | It's really funny how culture can shape perceptions.
           | 
           | I grew up in the 90s in Germany, so every single child
           | between 6 and 12 had these - before you became "too cool" for
           | them and started using anything else to rebel against the
           | system (tm).
           | 
           | So while I believe you that it's a good product, and I see
           | that there is nothing obviously childlike about the design, I
           | still can't separate it from that image in my mind.
        
       | twobitshifter wrote:
       | Notes on the iPad recently added a fountain pen and it's pretty
       | amazing how good it makes hand writing look.
        
       | csw-001 wrote:
       | I've worked with a fountain pen daily for decades. It's funny how
       | they become linked in your mind to event. This is the one I
       | signed my marriage license with. This is the one I wrote the bar
       | exam with.
       | 
       | Now I'm teaching my children to write. I got them a fountain pen,
       | and they love using it. It's exacting, so they have to form
       | letters properly, and if they don't mind their non-writing hand
       | they will end up smudged and inky. I was reluctant at first to
       | hand a kid an ink-filled fountain pen - but it's turned out
       | great, and they are so much better with it than pencils and ball
       | points.
        
         | detaro wrote:
         | > _daily for decades_
         | 
         | Did you yourself learn to use one as a kid?
        
       | disqard wrote:
       | In Csikszentmihalyi's book "Creativity", pg 119, Barry Commoner
       | is quoted:
       | 
       | > I write with this pen [he removes a fountain pen from his
       | breast pocket and holds it up]. And it's very clear to me that my
       | ability to think and write at the same time depends on the flow
       | of ink. The thing I enjoy most is the flow of my own ideas and
       | getting them down on paper. I will not write with a ballpoint
       | pen, because it doesn't really flow. That's why I use a fountain
       | pen. And only a fountain pen that really works very well.
        
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