[HN Gopher] The Feelings Monster: building a character with all ...
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The Feelings Monster: building a character with all the feels
Author : nickmain
Score : 15 points
Date : 2022-11-30 19:39 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| floren wrote:
| The Feelings Monster looks like it should be selling me cheap
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| collegeburner wrote:
| this article managed to singlehandedly make me bearish on msft.
| when will bigtechs stop wasting money on trivial PC bullshit and
| focus on earnings?
| remexre wrote:
| This is literally a tool for children to use in classrooms to
| learn about how to respond to their emotions reasonably
| collegeburner wrote:
| yeah it strikes me as a complete waste of time. nobody needed
| this 70 years ago, they learned reading writing and
| arithmetic fine and no weird "tools" required. why is msft
| wasting time on this? using senior designer time on whether
| some character should have thumbs and eyebrows? what???
| jjulius wrote:
| >yeah it strikes me as a complete waste of time. nobody
| needed this 70 years ago.
|
| On the contrary. As someone currently raising children, I
| can confidently say that historically, we have done a
| terrible job of teaching people how to have, be OK with,
| and process feelings in a healthy way. We may not have done
| this 70 years ago, but we certainly needed it then, just as
| much as we do now.
|
| And that's setting aside the fact that, "We didn't need X
| back in the day, so why do we need it now?" is a generally
| terrible take.
| jacksnipe wrote:
| What an uninformed opinion. Just because you don't need
| them doesn't mean nobody does. Autism is a real problem,
| and solving real problems is something companies do for
| profit, not because it's "PC".
| collegeburner wrote:
| ole reliable "you came to a different conclusion than me
| so you must be uninformed". come on. this is not MS' core
| competency and it's a diversion of resources. i'm hearing
| about how azure has capacity problems but they're sinking
| dollars into this?
|
| why not just let the autism research guys or whatever
| develop this stuff?
| jjulius wrote:
| >... it's a diversion of resources.
|
| How do you know that resources were diverted? Are you
| suggesting that the same people responsible for Azure's
| capacity issues are the same people working on this?
| Because these are two wholly different things that
| require different sunsets of skills.
|
| >why not just let the autism research guys or whatever
| develop this stuff?
|
| Why not just let the plumber fly the plane? Why not just
| let the cook captain the ship?
|
| Autism researchers partner with people who can develop
| these tools. That's what's happening here.
| jacksnipe wrote:
| Do you really think that the designers and frontend
| engineers working on this would have been put to better
| use working on capacity issues?
|
| If this makes more money than it cost, then what does it
| matter?
| jackson1442 wrote:
| Nobody needed mobile phones, computers, or hacker news 70
| years ago either.
| citizenkeen wrote:
| Agreed, we should model our educational frameworks on the
| way they did it in the 50s, when men were men and women
| knew their place.
|
| We've learned nothing new about childhood development in
| the last 70 years, pretending otherwise is a waste of
| senior designer time.
| kmeisthax wrote:
| Oh right I forgot that emotions were invented by the woke
| cancel mobs
| hackish wrote:
| Because we should, and we do, get smarter with every
| generation. This Feelings Monster seems to focus on soft
| skills and SEL. Still, your comments imply you may have
| issues with advancing educational tools or with technology
| companies investing in educational features over profits.
|
| Yes, learning arithmetic on chalkboards worked fine, but
| should we stop improving our methods and tools because
| we've already met some arbitrary bar of what you think was
| once good enough? No, we should improve them by any measure
| whenever we have the chance.
| collegeburner wrote:
| really? have our educational outcome metrics grown to
| reflect that? why are we lagging so much further behind
| other nations than we were at that time?
|
| yes, i have issues with companies investing in anything
| over profits. that's generally how companies operate.
| while i recognize there are those who disagree i think
| charity belongs separately.
|
| and anyway character development is the purview of
| parents not schools. public education should teach
| specific academic material and nothing more.
| jjulius wrote:
| >and anyway character development is the purview of
| parents not schools. public education should teach
| specific academic material and nothing more.
|
| Public education needs tools. This is a tool. The article
| literally calls it "a teacher's aid".
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