[HN Gopher] PSA: Do Not Use Services That Hate the Internet
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       PSA: Do Not Use Services That Hate the Internet
        
       Author : lehi
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2022-11-28 00:48 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | noobermin wrote:
       | An aside to those curious, linking to jwz's blog from HN is not
       | liked by him, and the website, if it detects a direct visitor HN
       | redirects to a vulgar NSFW image. This apparently is a work
       | around.
        
         | deafpolygon wrote:
         | why?
        
         | happytoexplain wrote:
         | I can understand not wanting the traffic, but it sounds like he
         | has something personal against the HN userbase. Do you know
         | what that is?
        
           | aliqot wrote:
           | It's complicated.
        
           | [deleted]
        
         | dorkwood wrote:
         | Here's the NSFW image, if anyone's curious.
         | https://cdn.jwz.org/images/2016/hn.png
        
       | charcircuit wrote:
       | This article confuses the web with the internet. There are many
       | applications that use the internet, but are not themselves
       | websites.
        
         | kelnos wrote:
         | No, he is not confused at all. He's specifically railing
         | against walled-garden, closed systems where your only access to
         | them requires a closed-source mobile app (which of course uses
         | the internet), and has no web presence at all.
         | 
         | (Also note that this is Jamie Zawinski, who wrote the UNIX
         | versions of Netscape in the 90s. I don't think a guy who wrote
         | a web browser would be confused about the difference between
         | the web and the internet.)
        
         | selfhoster11 wrote:
         | No, it does not. It's pretty clear that whatever Hive is (as
         | well as other content silos), it uses the Internet to
         | communicate with the mothership but does not meaningfully
         | participate in the World Wide Web (aka the web). The article
         | speaks of this exact scenario.
        
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