[HN Gopher] Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator
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Gifaanisqatsi: A Random Koyaanisqatsi Generator
Author : indigodaddy
Score : 200 points
Date : 2022-11-25 22:37 UTC (1 days ago)
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| planetsprite wrote:
| One interesting next step to the idea is to indicate a continuity
| of meaning via the edits. For example, for each randomly selected
| gif, have the next gif share at least one tag. This allows each
| vaguely connected gif to create a randomly generated narrative by
| their connected meaning.
| carewell wrote:
| This will likely lead to some unexpected detrimental paths like
| endless videos of cats. But I like the general idea of
| continuity!
|
| Without any storytelling this generator becomes boring very
| fast.
| Zagill wrote:
| Maybe keep track of the last _n_ tags used and only select
| gifs based on tags not in that list?
| carewell wrote:
| It should be possible to be even more prescriptive. E.g.
| write a "screenplay" (or even let GPT3 generate it) --
| basically just a progression of tags -- and then pick
| random videos that match that.
| browningstreet wrote:
| www.radioparadise.com does this with song titles
| [deleted]
| superbatfish wrote:
| The Koyaanisqatsi cinematographer went on to become a director
| himself, and made the movie "Baraka" in the same style. IMHO,
| it's even better.
| john-tells-all wrote:
| I _adore_ Koya and Baraka. I agree Baraka is easier to get
| into: it 's more "human" and soft and animal, vs Koya being
| bombastic and somewhat frightening. (Which is the point: Koya
| means "life out of balance")
|
| They're both required!
| carewell wrote:
| To me Baraka always felt like a ripoff, despite its wonderful
| cinematography.
| kls0e wrote:
| If you enjoy adapted koyaanisqatsi ripoffs, try
| https://tita.lol :-)
| WatchDog wrote:
| Samsara is probably my second favourite after koyaanisqatsi,
| would highly recommend checking that out too.
| the_cat_kittles wrote:
| Absolutely love samsara, Lisa Gerrard did the score which i
| think is very very cool
| Jedd wrote:
| Powaqqatsi holds a special place in my heart - it's the only film
| that has ever put me to sleep in a theatre.
|
| The style of this reminds me of Infinite Adam Curtis, a generated
| series of video clips overlaid with random punchy / pithy
| comments in (very loosely) his style.
|
| https://www.tomscott.com/infinite-adam-curtis/
| elevaet wrote:
| I'm a big fan of Adam Curtis' movies, and this is awesome for
| taking the piss, love it haha! I'd like to think he'd find it
| funny too.
| waltbosz wrote:
| I once took an MP4 of Koyaanisqatsi and reversed the whole video
| sequence. It was quite a joy to watch the film backwards.
|
| I also experimented with time lapse videography after watching
| the film. I am surprised by what does and doesn't work as a time
| lapse.
|
| Also, Phillip Glass is the cousin of Ira Glass from the radio
| program This American Life.
| aaa_aaa wrote:
| Commodore 64 game Delta uses this music, very good.
| kf wrote:
| Nice. For Philip Glass fans, his third opera Akhenaten gets my
| strongest possible recommendations, it's visually spectacular at
| the level of Einstein on the Beach but musically accessible and
| vaguely pleasant while certainly not being bland. The
| Metropolitan Opera (NYC) is streaming it on a free trial along
| with much of the rest of their best recent work. I've learned a
| lot of people have a conception of opera as a woman singing in a
| particular style and don't actually realize how visually
| spectacular the best modern opera has become.
|
| https://www.metopera.org/season/on-demand/opera/?upc=8100042...
| mwlp wrote:
| Awesome! Wasn't aware this recording existed. I became a Glass
| fan after watching Leviathan (2014) featuring Akhenaten.
| Cockbrand wrote:
| As someone who's been familiar with Monkeon's work for about 20
| years via https://b3ta.com/, I wonder about the size of the
| intersection between people on HN and b3tans.
| bagpuss wrote:
| Cal Henderson was a co-founder of b3ta!
| Cockbrand wrote:
| Took me a while to figure out how that's relevant - I thought
| "yes, I know, but he's not monkeon, so?" :)
|
| A little research shows that he's also co-founder of Slack,
| which I hadn't been aware of.
| donatj wrote:
| My wife and I recently went to see a showing of Koyaanisqatsi at
| a local art theater in Minneapolis. My wife fell asleep; she was
| snoring and completely unrousable despite my best efforts and
| minor embarrassment.
|
| After the movie she said she really enjoyed what she had seen but
| found the Philip Glass soundtrack entirely too soothing.
| vanderZwan wrote:
| From what I understand falling asleep in response to getting
| comfortable is simply a sign of sleep shortage, so I wouldn't
| hold that against your wife
| webwielder2 wrote:
| Especially if she was "completely unrousable." Sounds like
| something y'all need to address.
| vanderZwan wrote:
| The good news is that they've already established that
| Philip Glass apparently is a good sleeping aid for her!
| cainxinth wrote:
| That was hilarious and amazing!
| petercooper wrote:
| Koyaanisqatsi is my favorite movie by a mile, so obviously I love
| this. Koy is interesting because it's not simply a movie painting
| a certain picture (which an experiment like this can't do), but
| because it's a _format_ too (which this experiment focuses on).
|
| The third in the trilogy of Qatsi movies, Naqoyqatsi, while the
| least well known is probably the closest fit for this experiment
| since it's almost entirely stock footage laid over the
| (orchestral - in contrast to Koy) soundtrack. For example:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgM46I-ZryM
| dtgriscom wrote:
| cycrutchfield wrote:
| Philistine.
| bouvin wrote:
| I adore Philip Glass, and it was through Koyaanisqatsi that I
| discovered him back when the movie was released.
|
| I have been fortunate enough to see PG & the PG ensemble
| perform Music in 12 Parts (I heard the piece twice that day:
| once traveling to the concert hall, and once live) as well as
| attend an evening of piano works by him performed by him and
| a series of other pianists. On my bucket list is seeing
| Einstein on the Beach live - easily my favourite opera.
|
| I have been collecting his music since the early nineties,
| and much prefer his earlier works - his later symphonies,
| etc, while fine, do not, to my ear, retain the stark beauty
| of his younger days.
| tjr225 wrote:
| andrei_says_ wrote:
| The minimalism is precisely why I like him.
| indigodaddy wrote:
| Perhaps he's an acquired taste. Although I fell for Glass
| immediately as an adult. As soon as I heard a few notes I
| was drawn to the music.
| bb88 wrote:
| I think the Tales From the Loop soundtrack is easy to get
| into. Yes there is repetition, but there's also motion as
| the phrases change to convey different ideas.
| indigodaddy wrote:
| Yes, I enjoyed the music in that series. VERY reminiscent
| of Truman soundtrack, but of course, he borrows and does
| variations upon his own earlier works all the time.
| Truman is very reminiscent of Mishima imo also.
| andrei_says_ wrote:
| I discovered him through the soundtrack for the American
| remake of Breathless with Richard Gere. His music makes
| the film.
|
| I recently listened of Philip Glass: Piano Works
| performed by Vikingur Olafsson and that left me
| speechless.
|
| Softer, more dynamic, more soulful, less mechanical.
|
| Highly recommended.
|
| https://open.spotify.com/track/5q7DgKLBQ54FXKAfGxNMGs?si=
| zwt...
| FpUser wrote:
| Exactly my experience as well
| mlinksva wrote:
| From pretty much the first time I'd heard/heard of Glass
| (conceivably Koyannisqatsi) I found him kind of boring,
| and didn't listen carefully, except for the Kronos
| Quartet performs Philip Glass album, because I love KQ.
| Apparently dismissing Glass is a thing
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tizP7IFyWig
|
| Anyway, after many years I've listened carefully and love
| it all. I hope to experience (and will gladly fly to) a
| live performance of Einstein on the Beach someday. Like
| the infinitely more sophisticated person in the linked
| video, I was wrong about Glass.
| justincormack wrote:
| I managed to see Einstein on the Beach in London a while
| back, recommended! It is performed maybe once a decade or
| something somewhere...
| indigodaddy wrote:
| Pretty much same for me. Listened very
| casually/cursorily/briefly in my late teens, tried a few
| times again in my 20s and 30s, and found it kind of
| boring and unexceptional.
|
| Then in my early 40s I dug in a bit and really started
| actually listening and exploring. And oh man what a wide
| universe of musical discovery burst forth for me after
| that. And I couldn't believe that I didn't put in a
| little effort earlier..
| DonHopkins wrote:
| I wish Phillip Glass and Don Martin collaborated on an A
| Cappella album.
|
| https://www.madcoversite.com/dmd-alphabetical.html
|
| "DIKKA-DIKKA DIKKA-DAK DIKDIKDIK DAKKA DAKKA DIKKA DIKKA
| DIKKA DAGAK DAK DIKKADAK DIKKA DIKKA DAKDAKDAK DAKKA DAKKA
| DEEP DABWAK DOOTBWEET DAKKITYDAK OONT GIKKADIK DIK DOKKA DAK
| DEEP"
|
| -Casey Working Laboriously On The Computer
|
| "GLISH GLUTCH ARRAGGH YAK BLAM BLAM AWK GAROOF GAROOF
| WEEOOOEEEOOO BLOOM BLOOM BLAM BLAM YAGGAK WHAP WHAP ROWR
| GROWR RIP MANGLE GURGLE GLUK"
|
| -Domestic Mayhem and Carnage Involving a Small Child, His
| Mother, a Dog and a Police Officer
| thewebcount wrote:
| Yeah, I really do not like Philip Glass's music, but I
| actually love the soundtrack to this movie. I heard it one
| day on the radio (local classical station was playing it) a
| few years after the movie came out and didn't know what it
| was. I was really surprised it was by him. But the rest of
| his stuff just doesn't work for me at all.
| indigodaddy wrote:
| Funnily, Koyaanisqatsi ranks on the lower end for me for
| Glass works (no pun intended). I'm a huge Glass fan(atic
| perhaps), and much prefer stuff like Truman Sleeps,
| Mishima, Jane soundtrack, Glassworks, Symphony #4 Heroes
| (Glass/Bowie/Eno), Mad Rush, etc etc. His music composed
| specifically for the piano is gorgeous.
|
| Amy Dickson's saxophone interpretations of his violin
| concertos are absolutely riveting, example:
| https://youtu.be/ZdUWPA_AX6o
| carewell wrote:
| It's interesting that there are two fan groups of Glass'
| music with almost no overlap. Qatsi trilogy is also on
| the lower end for me, but my favorite pieces are his more
| experimental works like Einstein on the Beach. Most of
| his Hollywood soundtracks are way more conventional.
| Zababa wrote:
| The soundtrack from Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters is
| absolutely incredible, just like the movie as a whole.
| I've been looking for a way to get prints of some parts
| of the movie, the last blu ray from Criterion has a small
| booklet with a few pictures from the sets, but they're
| very small.
| carewell wrote:
| AI upscaling works incredibly well in my experience.
| Zababa wrote:
| Is there any in particular that you would recommend? I'll
| admit that I have a negative prior for AI upscaling, as
| I've seen a few cases in I think iPhone pictures where
| the AI added things that weren't there. Ideally I'd like
| to find the original pictures of the sets, as either they
| will be digital, or can be digitized without losing
| anything, but it looks like it would require a trip to
| the USA at the E. Young Research Library, and I'm not
| even sure I would be allowed to take copies.
| indigodaddy wrote:
| For anyone interested, Koyaanisqatsi is on sale on iTunes for
| $5, and the bundle with Powaqqatsi is $10. Highly recommend for
| anyone who's never seen it-- it's definitely an experience.
| Also if it ever goes to 4K, iTunes will upgrade it.
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/iTunesMovieDeals/comments/z4f5qt/ko...
| alpaca128 wrote:
| > Also if it ever goes to 4K, iTunes will upgrade it.
|
| And if, as Sony elegantly put it, license term "evolving"
| happens[0], iTunes will remove it and you won't ever have
| access to movies you bought.
|
| At this point I don't trust anyone to keep digital purchases.
| It's either on my harddrive and backup DRM free or I don't
| actually own it.
|
| [0] https://www.howtogeek.com/817070/your-digital-movies-
| will-no...
| 411111111111111 wrote:
| > _It 's either on my harddrive and backup DRM free or I
| don't actually own it._
|
| It's quiet confusing that some people don't understand
| that, considering that's literally the name of it: digital
| rights management.
|
| You only ever get a temporary permission to play a media
| with DRM. It's literally the reason for it's inception.
| alpaca128 wrote:
| I don't care about the legalese, if the button says
| "purchase" and not "rent" then I'm going to treat it that
| way. If you buy a car the manufacturer can't just
| randomly come and take your keys because their license
| for the car's paint ran out. And they'd also not get away
| with it by giving it a fancy "rights management" name and
| hiding it in some agreement.
|
| Additionally lobbies pushed our government to create
| what's basically a tax on all digital storage media
| that's included in the price, based on the assumption
| that companies lose out on money when I copy music from
| my PC to my music player etc. Which by the way is my
| right by law, but they decided I have to pay for that
| right. No, the most I'm going to do with that DRM license
| agreement is to wipe my ass with it.
| 411111111111111 wrote:
| > _If you buy a car the manufacturer can 't just randomly
| come and take your keys because their license for the
| car's paint ran out._
|
| Not yet, at least not for that reason.
|
| That business model is currently being established
| however and the ability to remotely disable the car at
| the discretion of the seller/manufacturer has already
| been added on a lot of cars, especially electric ones
| like Tesla etc
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| FeistySkink wrote:
| I haven't watched the first one since forever. Any specific
| version you would recommend? I imagine the modern versions are
| going to be cropped one way or the other. Is that the case?
| carewell wrote:
| Criterion's 2012 Blu-ray release is probably the best
| available. It's a restored and remastered version that was
| made with the involvement of the original crew.
| classichasclass wrote:
| Seconded. Bought the Criterion box set, never regretted it.
| Looks fabulous in the home theatre.
| hypertele-Xii wrote:
| IRE
| carewell wrote:
| For some reason Reggio opted against releasing this version
| commercially years later with Criterion, so not sure it's
| what he would recommend himself.
| JoeDaDude wrote:
| To those who complain about Koyaanisqatsi being dated, remember
| this film was made before such a thing as music videos existed.
| You might even say it was one of the first, the other being
| Disney's Fantasia.
| tohnjitor wrote:
| Music videos existed before Koyaanisqatsi.
| carewell wrote:
| That was also my first thought - Naqoyqatsi would have been a
| better fit.
| StillLrning123 wrote:
| Koyaanisqatsi and Sunless by Chris Marker are movies I come
| back to and rediscover over and over.
|
| Sunless can be watched on you tube:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdusEgrbhgA
| poulpy123 wrote:
| Chris Marker made my favourite movie: la Jetee (on youtube
| with english subtitles here
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU99W-ZrIHQ). It was the
| inspiration of the movie 12 Monkeys
| iamdbtoo wrote:
| Ron Fricke's other works, namely Baraka, are also worth a
| watch.
|
| https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103767/
| gala8y wrote:
| Thank you for mentioning Sunless. Absolutely interesting and
| very personal, I would say.
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