[HN Gopher] Google, please do something with your ads and SEO-spam
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Google, please do something with your ads and SEO-spam
Author : tablet
Score : 40 points
Date : 2022-11-25 15:06 UTC (7 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (mdubakov.medium.com)
| imagetic wrote:
| Can't say I'm ever surprised to see another "WTF Google" post.
| The search has degraded a lot over the years.
|
| With that said, I've tried to switch on more than one occasion
| and Bing might be the only alternative that worked for me.
| DuckDuckGo is always way off the mark, no matter how many chances
| I've given it over the years. Google still wins, even with the
| ads and spammy stuff.
| ksidudwbw wrote:
| Brave Search has done it for me
| bluepoint wrote:
| Some people here a few days ago recommended kagi, a paid
| service with a limited free option. I have been trying it and
| so far the results seem great!
| dylanowen wrote:
| Kagi has been amazing: verbatim mode that actually works,
| blocking sites you don't want to see, boosting sites you
| always want to prioritize, and lists of sites you can
| customize for specific searches.
| autotune wrote:
| Based off your recommendation and others, and looking at
| the site and it's features, I am going to sign up for a
| month and give it a real try. I've been using google since
| the beginning and it feels time for a change.
| boxed wrote:
| I've switched. It's great at least for devs.
| tommek4077 wrote:
| They earn on both. Ads and the ad cramped seo stuff. So they
| probably wont change anything. And this is the case for the last
| ten years.
| tintor wrote:
| DuckDuckGo
| more_corn wrote:
| Just switch search engines.
| miguelazo wrote:
| To what? I'm unaware of any decent alternatives, unfortunately.
| I have all my defaults set to DuckDuckGo, but as soon as I
| search anything remotely uncommon, I end up having to switch to
| Google (although at least you can block the ad results with
| Ublock Origin browser extension).
| helph67 wrote:
| There are search engines that value your privacy. Qwant
| https://www.qwant.com/ Ecosia https://www.ecosia.org/ and
| Start Page https://www.startpage.com/
|
| This page may also help...
| https://www.kylepiira.com/2020/02/07/which-search-engine-
| has...
| thewebcount wrote:
| I've had very good luck with a paid account at kagi.com. They
| have many filtering options to remove sites you don't ever
| want to see (like Pinterest, allrecipes.com, etc.).
| sli wrote:
| I still have to fall back to Google sometimes but DDG covers
| a good 80% of my search usage just fine. Any amount of
| switching is better than none at all, even if just to push
| back against Google's hegemony however we can.
| hienyimba wrote:
| Whenever articles like these are published, I wonder who the
| Author thinks does the work of writing free articles on the
| Internet just for their pleasure. Content is expensive and is
| created by writers who must be paid.
|
| To demand quality articles from the Internet, you must be willing
| to pay for them. Nobody exists just to write free passionate
| articles on the Internet and earn no money from them.
| newZWhoDis wrote:
| It was that way for more than decade. The internet used to be
| nothing but passion projects
| Veen wrote:
| Plus, Mr. Dubakov knows damn well why people write those types
| of articles. In fact, he's published quite a few shallow search
| optimized articles on the same Medium blog he's using to
| complain about the practice and on the Fibery blog. He does it
| to publicize his startup, just like most of the others.
|
| e.g.
|
| 10 Top Product Marketing Bullshit Things in 2022
|
| Survival guide for an introverted CEO
|
| 10 worst interview questions
|
| 5 Biggest Problems in Software Development
|
| Overcoming fear of public speaking in 8 easy & honest tips
| butz wrote:
| A huge issue is when one is googling for some obscure issue or
| error message at work, and end up in a fake website with NSFW
| content or banners.
| Bellamy wrote:
| Great ending: "Hug me please." Love it.
| chopete3 wrote:
| There is a simple way to show your frustration.
|
| 1. Buy Google stock
|
| 2. Google has to show more ads to keep market hype on stock
| price.
|
| 3. They will fill 2 pages instead of current one page with ads.
| And then 3 and 4...
|
| 4. You buy more stock and protect your down side.
|
| 5. They will insert 2-3 times more ads per video on youtube.
|
| At some point the average person will loose Google. You win big
| on stocks until then.
|
| /sarcasm - pls dont do this.
| tlogan wrote:
| I looked the results for "remote work best practices" and they
| all seems a valid articles. Not really SEO spam.
|
| Which article is considered as not spam? HRB one? Really?
| bluepoint wrote:
| I don't know if everyone knows that SEO stands for search engine
| optimization and it is
|
| > the process of maximizing the number of visitors to a
| particular website by ensuring that the site appears high on the
| list of results returned by a search engine.
| UIUC_06 wrote:
| Do you think there's anyone on HN who doesn't know "If you
| don't know what something is, just type its name into your
| search engine?"
|
| this was on the first page of DuckDuckGo results for "SEO":
|
| https://moz.com/learn/seo/what-is-seo
| pupppet wrote:
| What really ticks me off are all these sites clearly scraping
| content from Stack Overflow that somehow end up near the top of
| the search results. How is there not an automated fix for this.
| Lemme help you out with this Googlers: If site content A == site
| content B, pagerank = -1.
| UncleMeat wrote:
| Cue a HN post "wtf google, my archive website is getting marked
| as spam."
| pupppet wrote:
| I don't want your archive website near the top of my search
| results when the original is readily accessible.
| UncleMeat wrote:
| Won't stop the outrage post.
| tintor wrote:
| Using that rule it would be very easy to derank any website.
| boxed wrote:
| Not if the list of A sites was manually curated. Like
| stackoverflow and wikipedia. This isn't hard for shooting
| down a ton of sites.
| ericpauley wrote:
| Then people could derank sites by copying them to stack
| overflow.
| plantain wrote:
| So both sites lose? That'll make manipulation easier than ever
| before.
|
| Or does the older site win? Frequently scraped / already
| popular sites will love that.
| BugsJustFindMe wrote:
| It kinda sounds like you think that Google doesn't have the
| resources to have a human decide that stackoverflow isn't
| itself a spam clone.
|
| This is a huge problem for a very small number of sites and a
| non-existent problem for everything else. The list of
| authoritative, egregiously-copied sources could easily be
| maintained by one person. The only difficulty comes from
| determining when to trigger the system.
| pupppet wrote:
| Derank the newer page, you don't need to derank the entire
| site.
| levymetal wrote:
| These can be hidden using uBlock origin. I've got a list you
| can import (just use the raw link). The selector isn't perfect
| in Google (sometimes leaves some unattached content) but the
| link is always removed. Feel free to submit a PR if you find
| any other SO clones - there seems to be no end to them.
|
| https://github.com/levymetal/filter-lists/blob/main/filters/...
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