[HN Gopher] France is working on an ultra-secure phone for Emman...
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       France is working on an ultra-secure phone for Emmanuel Macron
        
       Author : samizdis
       Score  : 13 points
       Date   : 2022-11-24 20:24 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.lemonde.fr)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.lemonde.fr)
        
       | psychphysic wrote:
       | They want a french sovereign WhatsApp.
       | 
       | Matrix to the rescue?
        
         | fsflover wrote:
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19216527
        
       | aborsy wrote:
       | I was surprised when I heard that US spied on phone calls of the
       | European leaders such as Merkle. It's shows how far ahead is US
       | in technology.
       | 
       | Also, surprised that French president apparently used an ordinary
       | phone susceptible to Pegasus hacking til last year.
        
         | psychphysic wrote:
         | > I was surprised when I heard that US spied on phone calls of
         | the European leaders such as Merkle.
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         | I wasn't sure who to be more embarrassed for. Doing it to such
         | a significant ally is shameful, having it done to you by an
         | ally possibly worse.
        
           | chrisseaton wrote:
           | Can't know if they're really any ally or not if you aren't
           | spying on them, can you!
        
         | Kukumber wrote:
         | It has nothing to do with technologies, it had to do with trust
         | and negligence, or perhaps a trap ;), both France and Germany
         | are properly equipped when it comes to real "tech", and not
         | just consumer tech
        
           | nix23 wrote:
           | Yep, like Merkle said "friends don't do that to each other".
           | It's that childish trust towards the US.
           | 
           | Maybe she should have listened to Charles de Gaulle ->
           | ,,France has no friends, only interests." ...same with the US
           | and ever Country with open eyes.
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           | PS EDIT:
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           | Henry Kissinger -> America has no permanent friends or
           | enemies, only interests.
        
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