[HN Gopher] Twitter Exodus Hits Teams Tasked with Regulatory, Co...
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Twitter Exodus Hits Teams Tasked with Regulatory, Content Issues
Globally
Author : erehweb
Score : 40 points
Date : 2022-11-24 16:24 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| grugagag wrote:
| Discussion on this other thread:
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| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33730985
| guywithahat wrote:
| https://archive.ph/FCoa0
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| I wonder how much of this is actually due to employees
| leaving/being fired and how much is just due to increased
| regulatory interest due to Twitter having new owners? As we've
| seen a lot of the content issues are due to organizations
| attempting to get twitter in trouble since Elon is perceived to
| be "anti-establishment" by many
| https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1595630109116989440, and GDPR
| has a reputation for not being enforced equally. One has to
| wonder whether things have actually changed or if they're just
| getting regulated differently now
| isthisthingon99 wrote:
| Anti establishment would be celebrated in the west for example
| when we celebrate women being anti establishment in Iran.
| PeterStuer wrote:
| Because that is not anti-western establishment.
| anticristi wrote:
| The EU recently passed the Digital Service Act which expecting
| regulates very large platforms, like Twitter. Curious to see
| when Twitter gets the first "dark pattern" fine.
| zimpenfish wrote:
| > how much of this is actually due to employees leaving/being
| fired
|
| Pretty much every position named in the FTC consent decree
| appears to have left which means they have no-one to handle
| that and, apparently, there's an audit due in January. This is
| not "just due to increased regulatory interest due to Twitter
| having new owners" - it's the existing consent decree they have
| to work under.
| PM_me_your_math wrote:
| The way twitter was run, the job was probably being done by 5
| workers and 16 managers who mostly played corn-hole and 'relaxed'
| during much of the day. A team that met only for 2 hours after
| lunch everyday to "knock out some projects" and then wind-down in
| the smoothie room. I don't know why everyone thinks they can run
| a large organization better than a man like Elon Musk.
| Ambolia wrote:
| Last week Twitter was supposed to break in a couple of days. Now
| it will have regulatory problems any time soon.
|
| I'll be interested when Twitter has actual issues instead of
| crazy conspiracy theory of the day about the future problems that
| are sure to come, never to be spoken about again if the
| prediction doesn't turn out to be true.
| random314 wrote:
| > Last week Twitter was supposed to break in a couple of days
|
| I did not see anyone make any such statements. Who are you
| referring to?
| sschueller wrote:
| There are people at Twitter now that think the entire thing can
| be built and operated by just "20 amazing engineers" [1] . That
| is so beyond stupid that if Elon thinks the same way the
| company is absolutely doomed. This isn't some WordPress blog.
|
| [1]
| https://twitter.com/realGeorgeHotz/status/159532050115648716...
| zimpenfish wrote:
| > There are people at Twitter now that think the entire thing
| can be built and operated by just "20 amazing engineers"
|
| Thing is - you can absolutely build and operate a site that
| allows people to post things and have other people follow
| them with just "20 amazing engineers".
|
| What you _can 't_ do with just "20 amazing engineers" is
| operate a safe, harassment-limiting, CSAM-free, ad-friendly,
| legality-following, privacy-preserving, FTC consent decree'd
| site.
| croes wrote:
| At the moment Musk didn't fix anything but he removed the
| safety net. Like removing all fire extinguishers doesn't mean
| your house will burn tomorrow.
|
| It won't fail immediately but at the first major problem it
| will get interesting.
| PM_me_your_math wrote:
| You assume as much. Assumptions are interesting things. They
| often assume too little or assume too much, and are based on
| subjective beliefs instead of objective facts.
| anticristi wrote:
| Did you see the UI regression withthe oddly bold menu on
| Twitter? That's a stove that wasn't turned off.
| chitowneats wrote:
| Oh no! An "oddly bold" menu! How will Twitter ever recover?
| sieabahlpark wrote:
| Quequau wrote:
| It doesn't seem to me that jettisoning the employees responsible
| for regulatory compliance is a sound management strategy.
| autotune wrote:
| It's only not sound if you want to grow and sustain the
| business rather than turn it into your own personal $44 billion
| rage room for pointless glass smashing.
| nxm wrote:
| Yet it still running, and cutting costs is a necessity for
| profitability when costs exceed revenue. Incredible how
| bloated that company was before Elon took over.
| [deleted]
| autotune wrote:
| Complaining about Twitter still running for their public
| presence is a testament to how much solid automation and
| infrastructure the previous SREs put in place than
| anything. If you look you can find comments about how it is
| already deteriorating in their ad portal. Complaining about
| a website being up is like asking what the IT person at
| your org does all day, and then getting angry when they get
| fired and things start going down a month later.
| yakak wrote:
| It wasn't really that bloated, it is just a stupid business
| to run because it requires a massive investment and
| delivers only twits.
|
| I'm a bit shocked that no-one "acquihired" twitter to make
| another real tech company without hitting all the barriers
| and filtering even an infinite blood-money funded startup
| will hit. They threw out the baby, but the bath water is
| still there, and cloudy and a bit cold.
| hatenberg wrote:
| It is if you are only pursuing an. US election influence
| opportunity.
|
| He laid off 90% of Asia and much of EU, betraying his bullshit
| about mission and vision.
|
| This is just him spending money for a seat at the table with a
| specific party
| pjmlp wrote:
| He tried to lay off EU employees, his US actions are void as
| per employment law in most European countries, and several
| countries are looking into it.
| ralph84 wrote:
| It's more than just that. You can buy a seat at the table for
| a lot less than $44 billion. SBF got a seat for $40 million.
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