[HN Gopher] Crypto and Other New Faiths
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       Crypto and Other New Faiths
        
       Author : Ariarule
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2022-11-22 21:51 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | nubb wrote:
       | hacker news talking about crypto is like your racist maga boomer
       | uncle talking about crt.
        
       | jrm4 wrote:
       | Meh. I think to write about this intelligently you need to
       | include the fact that there is definitely and provably "new tech"
       | in here that can be world changing depending on how humans choose
       | to use it?
       | 
       | This isn't a guarantee that it will be used well, but at least a
       | _base mention_ of the new thing they are looking at and the ways
       | in which it could work need to be discussed.
        
         | D13Fd wrote:
         | > there is definitely and provably "new tech" in here that can
         | be world changing depending on how humans choose to use it
         | 
         | How so?
        
       | bartvk wrote:
       | Why does crypto on HN always seem to be polarizing? This article
       | too is theorizing that people who are attracted to crypto, wish
       | for the current banking system to be overthrown and thus they are
       | mentally unstable.
       | 
       | Sigh. You know what's also possible? Put 5% of your savings into
       | Bitcoin and then continue to live your normal life.
        
         | gonzo41 wrote:
         | I know a guy, who's great great, a few more great's,
         | grandfather was part of a land race in Australia, where the
         | rules where you could have as much crown land as you could
         | fence in a day.
         | 
         | His ancestors smart trick was to fence across a peninsula.
         | 
         | Crypto is attractive because it has a lot of hype that make
         | people think that it may be a viable way to get a first mover
         | advantage and stake a claim on easy wealth. This thinking is
         | IMO, stemming from the inequality that is present in modern
         | society. Remember all those bankers that went to jail forever
         | for the 2008 crash. Me neither.
         | 
         | It is easy to say, comparison is the thief of joy. But it's
         | hard to ignore every single media source gaslighting you about
         | the simple ability of others to live great lives whilst your
         | lift may not be so flash hot.
         | 
         | Crypto is like a lottery ticket for a lot of people.
        
         | dale_glass wrote:
         | Nobody talks about people who just quietly do things and don't
         | tell anybody. All the talk is about dramatic stuff happening.
         | 
         | But other than that, putting 5% rather than betting your entire
         | life on it still suggests some sort of expectation that this
         | might actually be good for something -- unless you're the rare
         | person who actually spends significant amounts of money mostly
         | at random.
         | 
         | If by chance you are, then the conversation isn't really about
         | you. You're just allocating a percentage to a dice throw
         | without any other reasoning, hoping it might actually bring
         | profit by pure chance.
        
       | nipponese wrote:
       | Bitcoin had organic usage and, thus, value before the hype of
       | 2013. You can still find old online poker videos of people with
       | substantial BTC balances making $10 bets that would be worth
       | millions today.
       | 
       | So if we agree on that (I know, big IF), can we get past the
       | "religion" argument and label these people correctly as
       | "gamblers"?
        
         | snoot wrote:
         | Gambling addicts might be more accurate.
        
       | oleganza wrote:
       | Bitcoin is quite literally a religion. It has dogmas ("not your
       | keys, not your coins"), traditional values ("21 mil"), a prophet
       | (satoshi), celebrated dates (Jan 3).
       | 
       | On the serious side, Bitcoin is all about "let's all agree this
       | is money". This means it's a useful tool only after you play the
       | social game. Technology does not matter if people don't get to a
       | consensus on it, but when they do (and they seem to continuously
       | re-enforce this consensus over years), it works better and
       | better.
        
       | The_Colonel wrote:
       | The quasi-religious nature of the Bitcoin/crypto community has
       | been a big turn-off for me - the systems where evidence is
       | replaced with belief are naturally suspicious.
        
       | peyton wrote:
       | This covers the retail side. However I think there's a lot to be
       | said about modern, global, 24/7 infrastructure for institutions.
       | Maybe crypto needs a rebrand.
        
         | twblalock wrote:
         | > However I think there's a lot to be said about modern,
         | global, 24/7 infrastructure for institutions.
         | 
         | Ok, then say it! And explain how those institutions will be
         | better served by crypto than what they currently use.
        
         | NotYourLawyer wrote:
         | They already have that. It's called a database. Not clear to me
         | how making it orders of magnitude slower and more expensive
         | serves institutions well.
        
           | shakow wrote:
           | IMU, the golden use case for crypto would be a database, but
           | for entities that are in a perpetual Mexican standoff. So I
           | guess that theorically, in its current form or another, it
           | may find very good uses in e.g. exchanges (I know, bold of me
           | to write this days after the whole FTX shabang).
        
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