[HN Gopher] Signal contradicts Musk, says it's not helping to en...
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       Signal contradicts Musk, says it's not helping to encrypt Twitter
       DMs
        
       Author : CharlesW
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2022-11-22 20:16 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
        
       | natch wrote:
       | I don't see any contradiction since all he said was
       | "potentially." We don't even have the full quote.
       | 
       | The Signal protocol is also a thing, outside of Signal. For
       | instance, WhatsApp uses it. It's highly possible someone
       | listening misunderstood a reference to signal as a reference to
       | the company, not the protocol, and jumped to the wrong
       | conclusions. Again the article author does not bother to track
       | down the exact quote.
        
         | pr337h4m wrote:
         | He was referring to Moxie:
         | 
         | He went on to praise Signal, the encrypted chat app that is run
         | as a non-profit. He said he had spoken with its creator, Moxie
         | Marlinspike, who is now "potentially willing to help out" with
         | encrypting Twitter DMs.
         | 
         | "Ironically, Moxie Marlinspike worked at Twitter and actually
         | wanted to do encrypted DMs several years ago, [but] was denied
         | that and then went and created Signal," Musk said.
         | 
         | https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/21/23472174/twitter-dms-enc...
        
       | fnordpiglet wrote:
       | I wonder if musk fired them for contradicting him in public.
        
       | _zer0 wrote:
       | While Signal may not be helping Musk, Moxie still may be. Moxie
       | left Signal at the beginning of the year:
       | https://signal.org/blog/new-year-new-ceo/
        
       | dev_daftly wrote:
       | We really need better journalism, this entire claim is based on
       | another article where he says he has been talking to Moxie. They
       | at least linked it, but you would expect a journalist to add his
       | actual quote to the story. Here is the section from the linked
       | article where they came up with the idea that he claimed signal
       | was going to work with him.                 He went on to praise
       | Signal, the encrypted chat app that is        run as a non-
       | profit. He said he had spoken with its        creator, Moxie
       | Marlinspike, who is now "potentially willing        to help out"
       | with encrypting Twitter DMs.            "Ironically, Moxie
       | Marlinspike worked at Twitter and        actually wanted to do
       | encrypted DMs several years ago,        [but] was denied that and
       | then went and created Signal,"        Musk said. (For those
       | curious, The Wall Street Journal has        a writeup from 2015
       | detailing Marlinspike's time at        Twitter.)
        
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