[HN Gopher] Hacker News Parody Thread (2013)
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Hacker News Parody Thread (2013)
Author : AkshatJ27
Score : 955 points
Date : 2022-11-20 13:14 UTC (9 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (bradconte.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (bradconte.com)
| tomxor wrote:
| I post to simply state my appreciation and amusement :D
|
| ... but I will be downvoted due to being neither insightful nor
| argumentative.
| input_sh wrote:
| Unrealistic.
|
| Not a single person complained about link not working with
| JavaScript disabled.
| weinzierl wrote:
| ... and no one about site's contrast or scroll hijacking...
| Justin_K wrote:
| This.
| marginalia_nu wrote:
| I wish they would just rewrite the website in a safe language
| like Rust.
| geoduck14 wrote:
| Or PHP
| aklein wrote:
| I have stuff to say about JIT.
| dweekly wrote:
| I have a correction to your understanding of JIT.
| rpastuszak wrote:
| *zig
|
| Rust feels too 2019
| mirekrusin wrote:
| As a ruby guy, does it really matter which language it's
| written in if it works?
| thatwasunusual wrote:
| As a Perl guy: yes. :(
| Kye wrote:
| There is no escape.
| wruza wrote:
| _As a Perl guy: yes. :(_
|
| Warning all, don't paste this into your shell!
| daniel-cussen wrote:
| wooque wrote:
| Or complained about accessibility
| timeon wrote:
| Since it was missing there I realized how am I overusing '[-]'
| instead of scrolling. Like Tarzan swing on vines.
|
| (Also is this relavant or am I just piggy-backing your top
| comment?)
| andreareina wrote:
| Have you heard about our lord and savior
| root|parent|prev|next ?
| mdp2021 wrote:
| > _our lord and savior root|parent|prev|next_
|
| You are welcome! My very small contribution to the system
| (I asked and "pushed" for it) - of course, Dang and/or his
| team implemented it. It is pleasant to read about it in
| such appreciative terms.
| starkd wrote:
| Wow. I just realized the [-] feature. This changes everything
| about HN!
| jason-phillips wrote:
| I call it the "minimize bullshit" feature. Reddit also has
| it.
| anon7725 wrote:
| And I just realized "root|parent|prev|next" despite being
| ride or die with [-]
| nicky0 wrote:
| In 10 years of reading hacker news I never thought to press
| the [-] until this moment.
| [deleted]
| tomger wrote:
| I always assumed [-] subtracted a point from that comment.
| geoduck14 wrote:
| Important fact: The [-] does _not_ remove a point. After
| you get 500 points, you earn the privilege of _down
| voting_ , you will get a "down triangle" underneath the
| "up vote up triangle" that you can click on.
| RheingoldRiver wrote:
| [-] collapses the replies so that you can easily see
| what's next. On reddit the equivalent functionality is a
| button literally called "hide child comments."
|
| But as another comment mentioned, you can click root |
| parent | prev | next to get navigated through the thread.
| Personally, I prefer the collapse, though, as having the
| top of my screen move without my direct control is a bit
| jarring, but there's more functionality from these
| buttons.
| turbonaut wrote:
| Doesn't [-] set it to zero?
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck
| thatwasunusual wrote:
| > In 10 years of reading hacker news I never thought to
| press the [-] until this moment.
|
| I thought you had to click the [-]. How do I press the [-]?
| jcpham2 wrote:
| I don't understand if I should click or press [-] What
| does it do?
| _hyn3 wrote:
| Don't do it! If I understand it correctly, every time you
| use it, it takes away one of your valuable internet
| points.
| thatwasunusual wrote:
| A friend of mine did this too many times. He is in rehab
| now. His wife left him, his liberal left kids commited
| suicide etc. Harsh times.
| thatwasunusual wrote:
| How can you click OR press something?
| kergonath wrote:
| > I thought you had to click the [-].
|
| I cannot click anything on my phone.
| [deleted]
| hoosieree wrote:
| Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1053/
| jwilk wrote:
| Kinda relevant, because [-] doesn't work with JS disabled.
| :-P
| neonihil wrote:
| Most useful comment on the whole thread. Thanks for the tip
| about the [-].
| giancarlostoro wrote:
| As a JavaScript guy, does this really matter for 95% of the
| world?
| slowmotiony wrote:
| I appreciate the juicy center of good humor inside your comment
| of rage. Maybe the following will help. You're right, of
| course. It's just that there are competing values, so we have
| to make a tradeoff. One value is usability and having web
| content be less annoying, intrusive, abusive, and so on. No
| disagreement there. I think most HN readers share similar
| feelings about these things; certainly I do. The other value is
| curiosity. Curiosity likes new things, different things [0],
| unexpected things--things it can learn from. It doesn't do so
| well with repetition [1], indignation, or genericness [2].
| These two values conflict because complaints about the former
| tend to be repetitive, indignant, and generic. How to decide
| the conflict? That question actually has a clear answer,
| because we're trying to optimize for just one thing here,
| namely intellectual curiosity [3]. So that value has to win.
| This is one of those cases where it's super helpful to have
| just one thing you're optimizing for and to know exactly what
| it is. It's not that this is the 'right' decision, the
| 'correct' guideline, or anything like that--it's just correct
| relative to what we're trying to optimize for.
|
| [0]
| https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
|
| [1]
| https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
|
| [2]
| https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
| [deleted]
| kergonath wrote:
| Even worse, not a single comment about Rust and use-after-free
| bugs.
| ironmagma wrote:
| Or about how React bloatware introduces tens of petabytes of
| completely unnecessary dependencies, is destroying the Web, a
| perfectly-designed hypertext platform for linking documents
| together for reading on all manner of devices from
| screenreaders to Braille interfaces and toaster ovens.
| [deleted]
| anon7725 wrote:
| Nodding along .... - "oh shit this is a parody thread"
| [deleted]
| acqbu wrote:
| Why isn't this at the top?
| weego wrote:
| Also missing:
|
| How does this compare to X? (where X is an obscure project on
| github with no documentation of what it's feature boundaries
| are, has at best 1000 stars and further internet sleuthing
| suggests its at best only tangentially associated with the
| original comments domain.
|
| The end result being the author feels obliged to figure it out
| and reply incase not doing so seems arrogant and/or poorly
| educated in the domain)
| juped wrote:
| Oh no, not a mere 1000 Facebook likes!
| antihero wrote:
| Not a single person went on about vue
| jablala wrote:
| No Svelte either, I'm in shambles.
| matheusmoreira wrote:
| I'm just replying here to piggyback on the top comment and
| create a pointer to this thread in my CheckRepliesToMyComments
| page.
| InCityDreams wrote:
| Obligatory xkcd reference.
| breck wrote:
| I predicted something similar a long time ago (2022) here:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680851
| xeromal wrote:
| Or back button hijack
| zozbot234 wrote:
| Off-topic aside, but why do people complain about back-button
| hijack when you can long-press or right-click and get out of
| the site? It works on any browser AIUI.
| sokoloff wrote:
| Why do sites do a back-button hijack if it's possible to
| use the long-press menu-select feature?
|
| Because it's nowhere near equally convenient or standard to
| do so.
| newaccount2021 wrote:
| [deleted]
| sseagull wrote:
| It's got one glaring omission IMO - references to sci-fi
| literature. They crop up in a lot of threads :)
| ZeroGravitas wrote:
| One of the usernames is "scificharacter".
| [deleted]
| nesarkvechnep wrote:
| Very happy that "tangential" and "could you elaborate" are in
| there.
| bityard wrote:
| "Could you elaborate" always gets me... I can never decide if
| they are trolls or people who don't understand how
| conversations work
| karaterobot wrote:
| I'm someone who clearly didn't read the article, because I raise
| several points which were directly addressed by the author, but I
| do not refer to them at all in my very angry comment. It's
| possible the only thing I know about this article is the title,
| which it's also possible I misread in my eagerness to have my
| thoughts known by the internet.
| karaterobot wrote:
| And I am someone who is responding to that comment, and it's
| clear I haven't carefully read either the article, or even the
| comment I'm responding to.
| lbrito wrote:
| Nearly perfect.
|
| You missed the mandatory post on how I can read the author's blog
| post for 400 hours without recharging on my superior Mac M1,
| versus just 10 minutes on pleb Linux boxes.
| philosopher1234 wrote:
| Not brutal enough.
| wingely wrote:
| It's missing the part where someone suggests stupidity and
| obtuseness on the part of anyone who questions free markets
| outside of theoretical experiments.
|
| Similarly, it's missing the comment from a woman-identified
| person that is followed by negging from male users.
|
| Edit: proving my point
| anshumankmr wrote:
| Nice article.
| weird-eye-issue wrote:
| I downvoted you just to keep it inline with the OP
| bawolff wrote:
| > Here's a long detailed, objective explanation of everything
| related to this issue. It's probably more useful than the actual
| link and it may serve as one of the best efforts to consolidate
| information on this subject on the entire Internet. If it
| contains original research only a couple of readers will be
| qualified to tell. Half the people who upvote this won't
| understand more than the first two paragraphs.
|
| Exactly explains the value of hn, when this happens.
| prox wrote:
| Absolutely. Sometimes you get a comment thread where some
| specialists add way more than "average" commenters could
| actually add. I like it because it gives insights in difficult
| subjects!
| svnpenn wrote:
| Missed the part where people use acronyms that no one
| understands.
| motohagiography wrote:
| This is hilarious, but this is the best we have! But since it's
| funny, one must concede the truth that made it so. Well done.
| graderjs wrote:
| > simulated HN top bar
|
| Here's a hyper-anal correction that is itself correct, but
| doesn't exactly contradict the OP.
|
| Actually, logged-in simulation-user icandownvote (500 karma)
| can't actually down vote _yet_.
|
| This is genius
|
| Also, check out the top bar link hrefs:
|
| new | threads | comments | ask | jobs | submit
|
| new - http://news.ycombinator.com/TakeADeepBreath
|
| threads -
| http://news.ycombinator.com/CheckRepliesToMyComments?id=ican...
|
| comments - http://news.ycombinator.com/KillACoupleMinutes
|
| ask -
| http://news.ycombinator.com/KickstartADiscussionNoOneWillPar...
|
| jobs - http://news.ycombinator.com/AnyoneActuallyClickThis?
|
| submit -
| http://news.ycombinator.com/ACommentorIncludedAnAwesomeLink,...
|
| Sound the klaxons, that link includes http not _https_ don 't
| people know the security risks?!
|
| Also, I'm going for a couple of genres with the above
| robswc wrote:
| >Here's a hyper-anal correction that is itself correct, but
| doesn't exactly contradict the OP.
|
| I've always hated this. Thankfully I've found it happens much,
| much less on HN vs say reddit haha.
|
| The cherry on top is how the correction is effectively useless.
| graderjs wrote:
| But to the ultra self important pedants, they don't see it
| that way at all...it's not useless it's a _fundamental
| reality_ that you'd be a _complete idiot_ not to _fully
| appreciate_ ...just make sure you also worship their
| brilliance in deigning to illuminate you
| AkshatJ27 wrote:
| Previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5326511
| Pigalowda wrote:
| I didn't know there was an HN karma leaderboard!
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/leaders
| Semaphor wrote:
| The 2013 thread is pure gold.
| jfengel wrote:
| I really appreciate that I had no idea this was a decade old.
| The Internet changes every day but people remain the same.
| uncletaco wrote:
| This is too generous considering none of these comments trigger
| an unrelated and subtly racist political response.
| InCityDreams wrote:
| *hey, don't forget the Nationalists.
| nfRfqX5n wrote:
| Not enough anecdotes
| wg0 wrote:
| While I like the idea in general but instead of hosting it as a
| static file, SQLie table would have been a more accessible
| approach not to mention that it is far easier to query from Rust.
|
| Heck you could even compile SQLite and Rust both to Webassbly as
| Cloud flare edge workers but I'll not go that far.
| klohto wrote:
| I'm missing a rant about why is it a Twitter thread and not a
| blog post
| Kye wrote:
| Also the long, tedious argument following from a polite
| correction to using the wrong pronouns for the author.
| kretaceous wrote:
| Should be posted by todsacerdoti + a top comments by Gigachad or
| tptacek, screenshot of an insightful comment posted to Twitter by
| swyx.
| legohead wrote:
| Where's the random guy making a silly, reddit-like joke and being
| downvoted into oblivion with a snide reply about how this is HN
| not reddit?
| CRConrad wrote:
| Here, here!
| CommieBobDole wrote:
| This is pretty good, but to be peak HN the thread needs to have
| 'showdead' on and include three greyed-out comments: One claiming
| that the OP is wrong because he is a nefarious Jew, one half-page
| comment of entirely incomprehensible word salad, and a comment
| trying to sell boner pills in broken English with a misspelled
| URL that goes nowhere.
| tekla wrote:
| Is it really a parody if its indistinguishable from the real
| thing?
|
| Also missing a section where someone makes a statement as a fact
| and has a response from an expert explaining why they are wrong.
| synu wrote:
| Usually also highly upvoted because it sounds right.
| pwdisswordfish9 wrote:
| The best Hacker News parody is at https://news.ycombinator.com
| woolion wrote:
| Wrong, it's at https://hackernews.com, that weird link you
| posted is probably a phishing site.
| zozbot234 wrote:
| Too bad that n-gate.com stopped updating in mid-2021. It was
| great for this stuff, and arguably it still is.
|
| Edit: Don't miss the usernames in OP's parody thread though,
| they're just as hard to spot as on actual HN (which is a great
| feature of this site) but I thought they were the funniest part.
| AtlasBarfed wrote:
| The definitive hacker news mindset takedown. A cold bucket of
| water on silicon valley. I miss it so much, mostly because it
| was so insightful.
|
| Alas, no one will know because... you didn't pilotfish-post on
| firstpost comment.
| TheWoodsy wrote:
| I was scrolling for this. I always forget the URL and when I
| find it I'm saddened to find no updates :\
| neilv wrote:
| When telling people about HN, I'd emphasize first reading the
| guidelines, and not treating it like other social media. Then
| I'd say, when some comment thread goes intolerable, they can
| get relief by reading some n-gate. (Though the content of the
| last post precluded mentioning it at the company where I was
| working.)
|
| I hope the n-gate person is well, and that they didn't blow a
| gasket, taking on the burdens of too many HNers.
| donohoe wrote:
| The site UX on mobile is awful - so it's very consistent with the
| real thing :)
| davidjhall wrote:
| Missing "I can't view the site on my mobile phone."
| rzzzt wrote:
| > Please don't complain about tangential annoyances--e.g.
| article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button
| breakage. They're too common to be interesting.
|
| On a _tangential note_ , did this guideline change recently? In
| some search results "e.g." changes to "things like".
| oytis wrote:
| Really missing n-gate.com. It was good. Hope he's alright
| bitwize wrote:
| An internet attempts a third-rate mockery of Hackernews.
| Hackernews pulls a "this, but unironically", earnestly
| replicating every joke comment in the original article, right
| down to the obligatory XKCD.
| theideaofcoffee wrote:
| Same, I occasionally go back and re-read the archive of posts
| for laffs. The satire there is better than 95% of the flotsam
| posted here.
| goodpoint wrote:
| I miss it too. For being "satire" it was often more insightful
| than HN.
| wkjagt wrote:
| It's missing a comment from someone who dismisses someone else's
| comment by starting with "Ehhhh no." It's also missing someone
| making a funny joke and then being downvoted because HN comments
| need to be serious contributions to the topic.
| projektfu wrote:
| Please, this isn't Reddit.
| LorenDB wrote:
| The only thing this is missing to make it modern is Walter Bright
| plugging D every time Python, Ruby, etc. is mentioned.
|
| (By the way, I have nothing against Walter. This just seemed like
| it should have that.)
| philwelch wrote:
| My favorite part was the tangential argument about technical
| interviews. That seems like a common tarpit around here.
| cm_silva wrote:
| So many tropes! :-D
| frabjoused wrote:
| Missing archive link.
| tomger wrote:
| I disagree
| YesThatTom2 wrote:
| Commenter: yeah, but he forgot X
|
| Reply: He says X in the second paragraph. Did you even read the
| article?
| iopq wrote:
| Humorous meta comment
| sodapopcan wrote:
| Why was this post written in English? Should re-write in Rust.
| synu wrote:
| Missing -
|
| 1. I noticed a word used slightly incorrectly in the title.
| Rather than reading it with the clear intended meaning, let's
| take it as literally as possible to build a suitable straw man.
|
| 2. Someone replying in every thread, debating everyone like it's
| their job and accounting for half the replies in the topic.
| kergonath wrote:
| I almost upvoted some fake comments there. Is that bad? Am I
| conditioned to see the world through an orange and grey filter,
| letting only sarcasm and earnest pedantry through?
| Scene_Cast2 wrote:
| n-gate.com used to have more detailed (per article) HN satire.
| raldi wrote:
| "We renamed the title from The Eleven Sexiest Mistakes Stupid
| Morons Make When Designing Flow Control Protocols -dang"
| deltaseventhree wrote:
| YesThatTom2 wrote:
| The URL should be to an article from 5 years ago with the OP
| saying that he's sure nobody has seen this before, and 15 replies
| with links to all the times that URL was mentioned on HN in the
| past.
| cosmiccatnap wrote:
| I'm honestly shocked that HN hasn't taken this down yet. They
| tend to have self awareness the way I have self control around a
| buffet.
| tamaharbor wrote:
| I like bananas.
| heresie-dabord wrote:
| As a US poster, I need all units of measure to be what the
| Founding Fathers used and all pickup trucks to be what the
| Founding Fathers drove.
|
| As an EU poster, I won't understand the US obsession with large
| vehicles and I will recommend bicycling instead.
|
| As a programmer, I think we can improve performance if we
| multithread, containerise, microservice, and store n-depth JSON
| in a No-SQL database.
|
| As a Python programmer, this doesn't look Pythonic. We should be
| using pythonic Python, especially the new release that adds the
| syntactic sugar that we've all been waiting for.
| newaccount2021 wrote:
| baxtr wrote:
| I'm sad not to read anything about Rust and Kubernetes.
| gnfargbl wrote:
| As a person running a single static website, I can
| confidently say that Kubernetes is the most overhyped
| technology ever. After having eventually realised that my
| tediously simple workload can be deployed effectively using a
| short systemd unit file and an even shorter ansible script, I
| no longer believe anyone _actually_ runs production workloads
| on Kubernetes.
|
| I will now be considering other options for the service mesh
| that my startup clearly needs to implement in order to send
| an occasional email newsletter.
| heresie-dabord wrote:
| My start-up has rewritten Kubernetes in Rust because Go is
| slow and doesn't implement traits in a rustaceous way. Now we
| have a system about which we still can't reason tractably,
| but we can guarantee memory safety wherever memory safety can
| be guaranteed.
| glogla wrote:
| > As a US poster, I need [...] all pickup trucks to be what the
| Founding Fathers drove.
|
| > As an EU poster, I won't understand the US obsession with
| large vehicles and I will recommend bicycling instead.
|
| I will not buy EV unless it can go 10000 miles on a single
| charge, otherwise it is not good enough for my-once-in-a-decade
| roadtrip.
| mechanical_bear wrote:
| I'd buy that EV...
| EvanAnderson wrote:
| > As an EU poster, I won't understand the US obsession with
| large vehicles and I will recommend bicycling instead.
|
| This will launch the inevitable nightmare of pro/anti-helmet
| subthreads.
| heresie-dabord wrote:
| What nanny-state whiners don't understand is that helmets can
| actually twist your neck or choke you as you're flipping in
| the air and about to hit the pavement head-first. But it's
| worse than that, helmets give people a false sense of
| confidence. That's the real problem with our civilisation,
| too much confidence that death isn't imminent at every turn.
| Forewarned is forearmed, I always say to my shrinking
| coworkers. Oh yeah, pry my weapon from my cold, dead fingers.
| Mistletoe wrote:
| NIMBY Keto.
| PicassoCTs wrote:
| As a(As a(As a(recursive defined class of person)))) im
| astounded by how important perspective and caste has become for
| some, while we are all just the same hairless monkeys
| jablala wrote:
| As a ______"____"______________, I agree.
| irusensei wrote:
| "As an EU poster, I need to remind everyone in every thread
| that I have health care and GDPR."
| baxtr wrote:
| As an EU poster, the only thing that made a dent in the
| digital unvisere was GDPR and that's why I need to remind
| everyone about it constantly.
|
| PS: I'm an EU poster
| lol768 wrote:
| "As an American poster, I will get really upset about the
| idea of GDPR applying to US companies that do business with
| EU citizens and businesses. I will also complain about other
| EU regulations, because regulation is bad, stifles innovation
| and we don't need it in the land of the free, unless the
| state is California."
| ithkuil wrote:
| "as an American poster I will also get annoyed by non-
| americans having anything to say about how our legislation
| works and how that affects them; after if it wasn't for us
| there wouldn't be any money around"
| daniel-cussen wrote:
| examplary_cable wrote:
| Forgot the:
|
| Shameless self-plug: I build X[1] and I'm trying to solve the
| same problem as OP.
|
| [1]: https://my-saas.com
| IIAOPSW wrote:
| There needs to be at least one person in the thread reminding us
| about pg's submarine essay.
| GTP wrote:
| Thanks to this parody, I finally saw how the interface changes
| when you're finally able to downvote :D
| andybak wrote:
| Wooooaaa! Literally just yesterday I was thinking about this and
| considering posting a "Ask: Hn" to see if anyone remembered the
| link.
|
| Cosmic, man. Cosmic...
| DanielBMarkham wrote:
| irt "...I know this is off-topic, but does anyone know how he got
| visual effect X on his blog? ..."
|
| I cannot describe the sadness I feel when I see the title of an
| essay I might enjoy, decide to use HN comments as a way to
| decide, then the top comments are all "Why is he using comic sans
| as a font? Does he hate us?" and so forth.
|
| A kitten dies each time this happens.
|
| Over time, I have participated less and less on HN, but I still
| use it daily to screen out new tech news. This site rocks.
| Excellent parody!
|
| Also, for the first seventeen people to sign up for my free
| e-book, I will purchase certificates for free rides from Uber For
| Horses. Even if you don't like the book, think of the horses!
| CRConrad wrote:
| About that essay decision support thing: I'd say _that_
| particular choice _is_ a pretty valid input for (i.e. against)
| your decision.
| dalmo3 wrote:
| It's missing a thread where someone makes a very simplistic
| analogy, followed by 300 replies discussing the analogy but not
| the concrete point.
| api wrote:
| This is missing a tangent where someone finds a way to interject
| a point against "woke," gets mostly downvoted into gray text, and
| is followed by a ten level deep rehashed debate over whether free
| speech should imply access to private platforms or not. Oh, and
| the various dead troll replies that you can see if show dead is
| on.
| wging wrote:
| To reveal some hidden fun stuff in the 'reply' links (because
| hovering over everything is mildly annoying):
| Array.from(document.querySelectorAll('a')).filter(a =>
| a.innerText === 'reply').forEach(r => r.innerText =
| `${r.innerText} (${r.href.replace("http://news.ycombinator.com/",
| "")})`)
| djmips wrote:
| "Shouldn't the post add 2013 in the tile?"
|
| The only way I could tell this post was old was the mention of IE
| in the parody comments.
| rvba wrote:
| Did you win the Putnam? If not, please don't be "bolder" than
| this guy
| batch12 wrote:
| The author forgot to use references to razors, laws, fallacies,
| and axioms to dismiss any contentious discussion.
| felipelalli wrote:
| The Bad Humor of HN.(tm)
| [deleted]
| javajosh wrote:
| I'm assuming that dang et al is going to let this thread be "The
| Purge" for meta and self-referential comments.
|
| It's once a year guys, don't let it go to waste!
| chrisshroba wrote:
| A comment praising HN and attributing its success to dang's
| amazing moderation (which is 1000% deserved!)
| theideaofcoffee wrote:
| I don't see any posts from the Rust Evangelism Strike Force
| (thanks, n-gate).
| kretaceous wrote:
| Some more:
|
| - "I posted the same thing 3 days ago here: [link]"
|
| - A person who knows the OP personally shares an anecdote
|
| - "The YouTube embeds are breaking because I've disabled all
| Google domains"
|
| - Why can't you just....
|
| - "Really? Long form content as a Twitter thread?"
| sarlaw wrote:
| Hack money
| bazoom42 wrote:
| Correlation !== causation
| otreblatercero wrote:
| It depends on the datatype
| miles wrote:
| Clearly fake; did not include the word "orthogonal" anywhere.
| harryvederci wrote:
| "Why did you do this with that technology instead of this
| completely different one?"
| jeremyjh wrote:
| > Firefox nightly does
|
| Somehow took this to another level for me.
| abledon wrote:
| Why can't we have more detailed technical stuff like this on HN?
| [deleted]
| turnsout wrote:
| This is from 2022, needs (2022) in the title
| donatj wrote:
| A couple years back someone posted something I wrote. I'd
| written it in November 2018 and it was currently March 2019.
| Someone started a thread that it needed (2018) and the HN mods
| actually made it happen - as well as changing the title.
| JauntyHatAngle wrote:
| One thing it's missing is a reply to the comment saying "have you
| read the article" asking whether they have "read the Hacker News
| rules" as it forbids asking if someone has read the article.
| photochemsyn wrote:
| Was this written by GPT-3?
| halfmatthalfcat wrote:
| DAE hate javascript?
| PicassoCTs wrote:
| It misses the <template> guy, posting about his life long
| obsession in every thread, no matter how unrelated. Also no dang,
| providing previous discussion links and stomping out flamewars
| caused by the usual suspects.
| mechanical_bear wrote:
| Well, pack it in y'all. It's all been done.
| CyborgCabbage wrote:
| This thread reminds me of https://www.reddit.com/r/SUBREDDITNAME
| kmstout wrote:
| POST THANKING PARENT FOR LINK TO ENDLESS ENTERTAINMENT.
| andrepd wrote:
| You're missing the https://xkcd.com/1831/ guy, there's always one
| especially when it comes to non-computer subjects like medicine
| x)
| pepy wrote:
| relevant XKCD https://xkcd.com/386/
| [deleted]
| [deleted]
| adg001 wrote:
| Given the proven track record of our community, it strikes me out
| how nobody commented about the pretty good replica of the HN's UI
| already. Sad.
|
| On a related note, I will spend all night hacking CSS to prove
| myself I can do the same. Sleep debt does not scary me out.
| nicky0 wrote:
| I assumed they just cloned the stylesheet.
| chiefalchemist wrote:
| I wish I could, in the true spirit of NH, down vote every comment
| I don't agree with on this tread. Unfortunately, that would
| really count against karma. But it's tempting :)
|
| That said, the parody shows nothing down voted. Is that part of
| the parody? Or an oversight?
| lumenwrites wrote:
| Not enough nitpicky corrections that devolve into even more
| nitpicky nerd arguments about semantics and usage of words that
| are entirely missing the high-level picture or the ability to
| understand the meaning of sentences based on their context.
|
| Also, this could use more critical replies discussing why this
| project couldn't possibly work, or how this article is a result
| of living in a bubble.
|
| And, of course, someone managing to steer a technical subject
| into a divisive political argument.
|
| But seriously - very fun project, I love this!
| gooseus wrote:
| Needs (2013)
|
| Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5326511
|
| :)
| [deleted]
| ggregoire wrote:
| Doesn't work on Netscape mobile.
| jmugan wrote:
| I can imagine a whole genre of these, like Madonna and Child.
| unfunco wrote:
| Is this accurate? There's not a single comment saying "x is my
| daily driver" and no mention of anything being considered
| harmful.
| insin wrote:
| It's missing a top-level post which makes an analogy, which turns
| into a ten-deep thread of people arguing entirely about the
| analogy, the friendly article having been completely forgotten.
| SantalBlush wrote:
| The analogies found on HN could have their own dedicated parody
| site.
| smugma wrote:
| *they're
| dpkirchner wrote:
| You could power the earth exclusively on the smug that emits
| from analogy arguments (or what we call analgruments in the
| biz).
| bstpierre wrote:
| > You could power the earth exclusively on the smug
|
| I would like to learn more about smug-powered systems. Do you
| have some links I should read?
| NavinF wrote:
| https://smug.moe
| nativecoinc wrote:
| Hmpf, analogies are crutches. Carpenters don't use them so I
| don't use them. Just use the right-sized hammer for the nail in
| front of you.
| vram22 wrote:
| I posted before on HN about this trend, of commenters often
| completely forgetting about the original article, and arguing a
| lot (in child comments) about some top-voted comment.
|
| I called it the Hacker News Right-Side Effect (or Rule)
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24405167
| [deleted]
| bsnnkv wrote:
| Don't mind me, I'm just going to go around this parody thread
| downvoting anyone who talks about their small bootstrapped
| passion projects, accusing small funded companies that people
| like of astroturfing, and then storming off in a huff when I get
| called out. ;)
| ur-whale wrote:
| Nice, but no political comment in the entire thread, so not
| really representative.
| skc wrote:
| All that's missing is a 200 comment thread on some
| Microsoft/Facebook/Google tech from people who don't actually use
| Microsoft/Facebook/Google tech
| [deleted]
| [deleted]
| rikroots wrote:
| > I'll weasel in a reference the startup I co-founded to my JS
| library even though it's not directly relevant.
|
| Suddenly I feel shallow, and exposed.
|
| On a tangent - am I the only person who uses his real name on HN?
| CRConrad wrote:
| TAN: No.
| combatentropy wrote:
| Why is there no comment saying that someone is "conflating"
| something or that a something is "orthogonal"?
| daniel-cussen wrote:
| secondcoming wrote:
| This. I...love this
| sowbug wrote:
| If the author is here, please make each comment linkable, at
| least via anchor tags. I'd link to them the way I sometimes link
| to RELEVANT XKCD.
| throwaway12245 wrote:
| Flagged because it doesn't fit "the narrative".
| donio wrote:
| Not enough sophisticated adjactives. On HN everything is
| incredible, amazing, electrifying and goosebumps inducing. I
| would love to see a frequency analysis of such words on HN vs
| elsewhere.
| fortran77 wrote:
| Paywalled.
| sedatk wrote:
| It's missing a top-level dang comment saying:
|
| "This has been discussed before in these threads:
|
| 2013 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680661
|
| 2014 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680661
|
| 2015 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680661
|
| 2016 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680661
|
| 2017 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680661
|
| 2018 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680661
|
| 2019 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680661
|
| 2020 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680661
|
| 2022 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33680661"
| rosmax_1337 wrote:
| Damn, I was afraid this was going to be someone stealing my
| genius idea. Gladly it was just tangential to that idea.
|
| Idea: Train an ai to construct entire threads based on the input
| of the title and link. There should be plenty of training
| material, and frankly I think it would be hilariously similar to
| the real threads.
|
| When new submissions are added to HN, the system will fetch the
| title and link, and predict the entire thread. You can view the
| thread on something like hnpredicted.com/?id=33680661 . When the
| real thread has had no new comment added for five days, it is
| reintegrated into the system further training the model.
|
| Possibly, the model could be trained on the actual content of the
| link. But I suspect just using the short title might be better.
| Larger concentration on the actual material there, websites
| contain lots of text which is useless.
|
| Now that I've posted the idea, feel free to steal it ofcourse.
| It's documented that I came up with it anyway. :)
| turnsout wrote:
| I love this idea--I think it would be fun to gamify it! Keep
| the predicted thread secret, and then use it to award points to
| hn commenters based on originality. If a comment is
| functionally the same as a predicted comment, it gets -10
| points. If the comment is novel, it gets 10 points. Then
| there's a sliding scale between.
|
| You'd need some checks to prevent people from posting a bunch
| of Zalgo text (maybe a model to identify "interesting" or
| "insightful" posts), but it could be a fun overlay on the hn
| commenting ecosystem.
| sillysaurusx wrote:
| Lots of us have had that idea :) we should band together and
| make it happen.
| mirekrusin wrote:
| I present algorithm whereby each byte is iterated from 0 to
| 255, following recursively for next byte for each previously
| yielded result. From above nonsensical results are removed.
|
| Above algorithm generalizes all human knowledge ever conceived,
| in any format, as well as any future (duplicated!) ideas that
| may be conceived.
|
| I donate above algorithm and all its results to public domain.
|
| You're welcome.
| frutiger wrote:
| > I present algorithm whereby each byte is iterated from 0 to
| 255
|
| You should've just said a stream of bits, as your system
| cannot generate anything that requires a non-multiple of 8
| bits to be accurately expressed. Zero padding is not the same
| as absence of bits.
| genghisjahn wrote:
| That's what this site is. You've been talking to a machine all
| this time. Do you really think a person would have this much
| time to argue day in and day out over systemd? That that many
| people care wherever or not Go has generics and which other
| languages does them best? That rust somehow is the cure for
| everything from game engines to the common cold? Think about
| all the times a "person" stated something was Turing Complete
| and how it made zero sense to you. It's been machines all this
| time.
| dmarchand90 wrote:
| Rats, top comments will be impossible to beat. I can probably
| piggy-back off a top comment, though, those comment threads
| aren't long yet...
| hutzlibu wrote:
| Yeah, but at some point those machines would have had to have
| original training data, so at some point people probably did
| have time to engage in techno religious wars. Unless of
| course, all of this is made up, to keep us occupied to not
| discover the matrix or alike ..
| MonkeyClub wrote:
| Wir sind die Roboten.
| pessimizer wrote:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgtFRj38fEw
| narrator wrote:
| Who could argue for hours and praise and upvote someone
| getting Doom running on all their household appliances?
| other_herbert wrote:
| Ok that's it then it's time to run doom on my toaster,
| rendering onto bread... input will be tough though
| BoGoToTo wrote:
| That's a really interesting idea. I think it would be fun to
| see how well it would work in practice.
|
| https://imgur.com/4UZUPec
| ilyt wrote:
| Let's go a level further. Instead of banning/shadowbanning
| people just send it to shadow realm where all they see are bot
| created comments and bot created answers to what they comment
| dweekly wrote:
| See also: heavenbanned
|
| https://twitter.com/nearcyan/status/1532076277947330561
| ilyt wrote:
| Some video games already did something like that, except
| instead of AI they put you in match with other offenders,
| in sort of personal hell, then only let you out once you
| won some matches
| thorsten11 wrote:
| Gold
| sdwr wrote:
| Can't tell if this is a parody comment or not...
| wildermuthn wrote:
| Those comments violate the HN guidelines.
|
| Please read and follow them:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
|
| Kidding, I too thought this thread was the parody at first.
| After all, they are real HN comments!
|
| Or maybe this is part of the parody. Maybe if we trained an
| AI to detect genuine vs. parody?
| computomatic wrote:
| > Maybe if we trained an AI to detect genuine vs. parody?
|
| Blockchain will solve this better
| orf wrote:
| I did this quite a few years ago. If I remember correctly, it
| was so convincing that people emailed Dang because I set the
| username at the top to be "pg"
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10248773
| notRobot wrote:
| Do you have your sim archived anywhere? The original seems to
| be down.
| orf wrote:
| No, but I'm building it again. This time in rust. There's
| some stuff on my GitHub to download data in bulk from the
| HN API
| nvader wrote:
| > websites contain lots of text which is useless
|
| I'm honestly really curious about this. Could you elaborate?
| rosmax_1337 wrote:
| Headers full of navigation. Sign up for my newsletter spam.
| Footers. The webpage isn't just "the document we're talking
| about", but an entire application most of the time.
| yieldcrv wrote:
| There are GPT-3 generated subreddits
|
| They are pretty spot on and could do this with hackernews
| AkshatJ27 wrote:
| > Possibly, the model could be trained on the actual content of
| the link. But I suspect just using the short title might be
| better. Larger concentration on the actual material there,
| websites contain lots of text which is useless.
|
| Most people do not read the article before commenting, you do
| not have to train the AI to do that.
| bobleeswagger wrote:
| There was a reddit experiment a few years back,
| SubredditSimulator, that was a scaled version of what you
| described. It was obviously more surreal and funny than
| accurate. There were users trained off of popular subreddits,
| and they just ran with threads and comments being created
| purely from the data.
| T0Bi wrote:
| Sounds similar to /r/subredditsimulator.
|
| >this is a fully-automated subreddit that generates random
| submissions and comments using markov chains (see below for
| more info), with each bot account creating text based on
| comments from a different subreddit.
|
| Quite fun to read.
| [deleted]
| btrettel wrote:
| Someone did something similar before, but unfortunately it's
| now offline. The HN link is still up, though:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19694578
| fmajid wrote:
| I'm also surprised someone hasn't made a parody LLM-based HN
| thread generator yet. Perhaps until recently they were too busy
| writing crypto startup business plan generators to bilk
| gullible VCs.
| fortran77 wrote:
| This is the type of insightful wisdom I come here for! I'm so
| glad we're so much smarter than those Reddit people.
| herendin wrote:
| I certainly don't mean to nitpick[0], but this one is a total
| dumpster fire because it is lacking a clear 'HN is turning into
| Reddit!' comment[1]
|
| [0]https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ackchyually-actually-guy
|
| [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
| JLK_121416 wrote:
| https://web.archive.org/web/20221120140741/http://bradconte....
| ClawsOnPaws wrote:
| This whole comment section makes me happy. Thanks for that HN and
| OP.
| [deleted]
| JBits wrote:
| In all seriousness, I think people not reading the full article
| is a recurring theme on hn.
|
| For controversial topics, it's a major problem: people don't
| establish what's actually being debated, instead
| attacking/defended what they think I'd being debated, so the
| conversation develops slowly as a result.
|
| However, I also think it's a strength of hn, because hn has a
| strong culture of going off topic: allowing for people with
| related experience to share and to suggest new avenues to
| explore. Often, instead of bookmarking the referenced article, I
| bookmark the hn thread instead for this reason.
| logicalmonster wrote:
| A true parody of HackerNews needs the following.
|
| > Be midwit
|
| > Pops in at random 5 levels deep into some discussion
|
| > Says that a point is "whataboutism"
|
| > Takes great personal pride in thinking that he's won the debate
| by using the vocabulary term he just learned
|
| > Refuses to elaborate
|
| > Leaves
| tyingq wrote:
| Didn't find orthogonal, idempotent, or a rant about correlation
| vs causation.
| fleddr wrote:
| I don't find this parody funny at all because the site doesn't
| work without JS plus it's taking over my scrollbar. Not at all
| smooth in Firefox 3.11 with everything except HTML disabled.
| rcarr wrote:
| There's also this for more hacker news satire although it sadly
| seems dormant now: http://n-gate.com
| saagarjha wrote:
| See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23003595
| mgdlbp wrote:
| and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6747373
| coding123 wrote:
| You omitted the obligatory dang banning someone that had a
| flagged comment and then 4 people asking what it said.
| Thrymr wrote:
| Didn't commit to the bit enough to register expertslastname.com.
| Still available!
| mmsimanga wrote:
| You can do this Postgresql. Since I switched over x number of
| years I have never looked back.
| ent101 wrote:
| forgot the obligatory archive.is link.
| breck wrote:
| This is cool (only read the first two lines so far) but if you're
| really interested in Hacker News Parody software you should check
| out our startup: https://zombo.com/#HACKER_NEWS_PARODY_DOT_IO
| kmlx wrote:
| i only read the first word and i completely agree with this
| take.
| nailer wrote:
| Definitely this changes the game (I am the cofounder of the
| author of the parent comment).
| brecksAnonAccnt wrote:
| Came hear to say this.
|
| +1 for https://zombo.com/#HACKER_NEWS_PARODY_DOT_IO
| throwaway892238 wrote:
| *here
|
| Back in the day nobody on HN would so egregiously misspell
| words. This place is turning into Reddit.
| [deleted]
| junon wrote:
| Not fully reddit until a bot matches /came +hear/i and
| posts a snarky "Um Actshualleeee" comment.
| [deleted]
| et1337 wrote:
| This is missing the "scrolling is broken, history is broken, text
| isn't high contrast enough, doesn't work on mobile Safari, I hate
| paywalls, I hate cookie pop-ups, I hate newsletter signups,
| doesn't work with adblock, doesn't work without JavaScript, so
| didn't read the article" comment.
| Cupertino95014 wrote:
| LOL.
|
| A serious post (I know, it's hard to tell at this point, isn't
| it?):
|
| Why does HN need the karma points system _at all_? Downvoting is
| hardly used on other social networking sites any more, which
| should tell you something. Getting one pedantipoint has to be a
| motivation for "I have stuff to say about JIT." posts.
|
| Blocking & muting people is quite effective on Twitter, for
| example. The dream of a civil discourse with people disagreeing
| politely was obsolete before the Web was invented. There are a
| lot of accounts which _someone_ here would rather never see, so
| why not just let those people erase them, just for their own TL?
|
| Automatically downvoting anything you don't agree with is,
| basically, "Lord of the Flies" behavior. It leads to brigading.
| onionisafruit wrote:
| HN "needs" karma points because HN has karma points and is over
| all a good forum. Changing it at this point risks changing the
| balance that makes HN what it is.
|
| I don't block or mute people on forums where that is allowed
| because I don't want to see a different conversation from
| everybody else.
| Cupertino95014 wrote:
| First paragraph is not a real compelling argument: HN has it
| because it has it. I should downvote :)
|
| As for the second paragraph: to each his own. You have that
| choice.
| pellucide wrote:
| I wish elon musk would buy them and fix it.
| sligor wrote:
| Is it really a parody ? In fact it is mostly pretty accurate and
| that's why I love Hacker News over any other social media
| netfl0 wrote:
| I'd like to make a broader point here...
| sokoloff wrote:
| Did you even read the article?
| allendoerfer wrote:
| You do not really need parody sites. You can accomplish the same
| using rsync and 3 lines of bash.
| vram22 wrote:
| Didn't you know that zsh has this cool feature which reduces it
| to 1.5 lines? ohmyzsh!
| compiler-guy wrote:
| That might work for a small home parody, but it won't scale to
| levels needed by viral parody sites.
| nmeofthestate wrote:
| Hmmm. I searched for "trains" but didn't find it.
| twohaibei wrote:
| I never laugh out loud in front of the screen. Especially in
| public places. Almost never.
| layer8 wrote:
| "Firefox nightlys does" had me in fits.
| someweirdperson wrote:
| That's how I found out that the reply button does not work. I
| wanted to post a link to the issue and explain how they got
| it wrong.
| donatj wrote:
| It's missing the super well written and insightful "dead" comment
| at the bottom of the page that I "vouch" but it never really
| seems to do anything.
| CRConrad wrote:
| The one that you _and I_ "vouch" but it never really seems to
| do anything.
| Sniper1911 wrote:
| nice try, but N-gate is still better
| bluecatswim wrote:
| I miss it :(
| [deleted]
| hutrdvnj wrote:
| I disagree with the author. I know he's incredibly successful and
| right about pretty much everything he's ever said, but I've had
| some experience in this area and just finished reading through
| some of the archives and I think his focus is wrong. I'm going to
| ignore the technical issue and talk about the bigger picture and
| higher level things than what was said in the blog post. If the
| OP thinks that the process is most important, it's really about
| end results. But if he thinks it should be about the end results
| then he's an idiot for not thinking about the process. I'll
| weasel in a reference the startup I co-founded even though it's
| not directly relevant.
| ordu wrote:
| No, OP is correct.
|
| * You omitted his point about hyper-anal correction.
|
| * You misunderstood the meaning of a parody.
|
| * Here's point of a parody you didn't account for
| seydor wrote:
| > tangential statement
|
| I'm honestly really curious about this. Could you elaborate?
| freddymilkovich wrote:
| Did you even read the article?
| gzer0 wrote:
| Yes, I can elaborate, however, this information should have
| been taught to you by the age of 2. Silly HN.
| A tangent is simply a line that touches a non-linear curve
| (like a circle) at only a single point. It represents an
| equation with the relationship between the coordinates "x"
| and "y" on a two-dimensional graph. The tangential
| velocity is the measurement of the speed at any point tangent
| to a rotating wheel in a circular motion. Thus angular
| velocity, o, is related to the tangential velocity, Vt,
| through the formula. Tangential velocity is the component of
| the motion along the edge of a circle measured at any
| arbitrary point of time. As per its name, tangential velocity
| describes the motion of an object along the edge of the
| circle, whose direction at any given point on the circle is
| always along the tangent to that point.
|
| [1] https://me
|
| [2] http://me
|
| [3] localhost:8080
| [deleted]
| seydor wrote:
| Real-life GPT3
| majewsky wrote:
| > localhost:8080
|
| Whoa, I just checked that link, and there's some really
| offensive stuff on there. Is flamebait like this allowed
| around here?
| [deleted]
| roey2009 wrote:
| This is a repost from 2013
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5326511
|
| The comments there are actually funnier
| cojoke wrote:
| The feeling when self awareness blows into the forum like a
| refreshing breeze
| dkarl wrote:
| Missing the "previous discussions" links showing it was posted in
| 2012, 2015, 2017, 2018, and twice in 2020.
| stefantalpalaru wrote:
| dbuder wrote:
| Gibberish GPT3 comment from future sock puppet
| mmsimanga wrote:
| You should just quit your job
| metadat wrote:
| Lol, click the "links"
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17
| maydup-nem wrote:
| I remember how I did something similar back in 1983...
| heresie-dabord wrote:
| ... _in Org Mode_ ...
| bookofjoe wrote:
| This is my favorite comment. Not even close.
| zorked wrote:
| The only thing missing is the actual expert making a clueful
| statement at the very bottom of the page where nobody reads.
| Possibly downvoted a couple of times.
| seydor wrote:
| Please downvote this person
| turnsout wrote:
| Queue the hn reply: "Did you actually read the article? There
| is such a comment (guru3)."
| tomalpha wrote:
| I _hate_ to be pedantic but surely you mean "cue"?
| turnsout wrote:
| _Well actually_ in this instance I specifically wanted to
| evoke the image of the commenter waiting in line to deliver
| their retort.
|
| jkjk
| downvotetruth wrote:
| "turnsout" You're submitting too fast. Please slow down.
|
| Thanks
| MonkeyClub wrote:
| Nonsense, you don't _hate_ being pedantic :)
| daniel-cussen wrote:
| robswc wrote:
| And when you click on their unsuspecting profile called
| "jolly_rogers123" it goes:
|
| >link to their site
|
| >creator of (literally the thing being discussed), 2007
|
| >20+ YoE in everything
| breck wrote:
| https://archive.ph/rLsBh
| donio wrote:
| To be fair that's often missing on HN too.
| drdec wrote:
| Overly critical comment focusing on some obscure technical facet
| of the post, giving the impression of not understanding it is a
| parody.
| theCrowing wrote:
| I don't know why you need to bring politics into this.
| nailer wrote:
| I dislike Elon Musk and also it's the apocalypse.
| graderjs wrote:
| You picked an appropriate username for your comment
| synu wrote:
| I like Elon Musk and it's actually 4D chess
| rtp4me wrote:
| lets not forget...
|
| * 5-day/40hr work weeks should be abolished in favor of
| 3-day/24hr work weeks
|
| * I will never, ever work in an office again - work from
| home/remote 100% only
|
| * I will sabatoge my work place if I am forced to work on
| nights/weekends
|
| * All bosses are _ssholes_ and should never be trusted
|
| * Senior leadership (CEOs, etc) should forfit all their money
| and die if they ever lay off people
|
| * People with more money than me suck
| soheil wrote:
| You don't have to continue the parody and prove that the OP is
| right by making more parody comments. We already know he's right.
| There has to be a word for that.
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