[HN Gopher] I quit my programmer job to become a chicken
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       I quit my programmer job to become a chicken
        
       Author : satvikpendem
       Score  : 297 points
       Date   : 2022-11-19 19:37 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | jesse__ wrote:
       | 10/10 bwok cluckity cluck cluck
        
       | lewq wrote:
       | This is the kind of high quality technical content I come here
       | for.
        
       | satvikpendem wrote:
       | I wonder if this is a parody of all those comments/articles about
       | quitting programming to go into carpentry, or woodworking, or
       | farming, etc.
       | 
       | I no longer build software -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24541964
       | 
       | Why software engineers like woodworking -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31687378
       | 
       | Death of a Programmer, Life of a Farmer -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9492110
       | 
       | ---
       | 
       | The author also has some other hilarious articles:
       | 
       | - How to get over your Impostor Syndrome and become a
       | Professional Fraudster
       | 
       | - Programmers, Please Stop Referring to your Significant Others
       | as "Sugar Babies," You are Not That Rich (Also, They are Not That
       | Hot)
       | 
       | - How to Reassert Dominance in the Zoom Era as a Tech Bro
       | 
       | - Book Review: 95 JavaScript Theses - I've been reading a lot of
       | JavaScript books lately, and I have to say that "95 JavaScript
       | Theses" is the best thing since the Protestant reformation.
        
         | indigodaddy wrote:
         | And this video of his is also quite funny
         | 
         | https://youtu.be/8Gi3MLBLMUE
        
         | tharkun__ wrote:
         | At least he only quit to become a chicken. Better that than to
         | become a pig!
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chicken_and_the_Pig
        
           | layer8 wrote:
           | Git should have been called pig, because they commit.
        
           | aussiesnack wrote:
           | Most slave-labouring humans aren't much more than pigs in the
           | fable's sense.
        
         | jl6 wrote:
         | Just another wage-slave burnt out programmer casting off the
         | yolk of bondage.
        
           | [deleted]
        
       | schappim wrote:
       | This clickchickbait article fails to answer the question on why
       | the programmer crossed the road to become a chicken, and whether
       | they went from programmer - egg - chicken, or just programmer -
       | chicken.
        
         | 411111111111111 wrote:
         | I think he addressed it right in this excerpt!
         | 
         | > _Cluckity cluck Cluck-cluck-cluck Bwak pukaaak Bwak Cluck.
         | Cluck-a-buh-gawk Bwak Waaak Bok Waaak Cluck-cluck-cluck.
         | Cluckity Cock-a-doodle-doo!_
        
           | schappim wrote:
           | GPT-3 says otherwise: https://files.littlebird.com.au/Shared-
           | Image-2022-11-20-08-0...
        
         | deathanatos wrote:
         | Your comment had me wondering how you did the strikethrough,
         | since HN doesn't support it. U+0336 "Combining Long Stroke
         | Overlay", clever.
         | 
         | I really did not expect to learn anything here, of all places.
        
         | layer8 wrote:
         | How many roads must a programmer cross down before you can call
         | them a chicken?
        
       | jordemort wrote:
       | Bu-gawk cluck cluck. Bawk bawk cluck bawk!
        
       | kevin_thibedeau wrote:
       | So is he ending an incredible journey or starting one?
        
       | Yoofie wrote:
       | Reminds me of this great HN thread [1]
       | 
       | [1]:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5326511
        
       | sonabinu wrote:
       | In the spirit of the times, it's prudent to ask whether Galactica
       | had something to do with this? Was Galactica on the peer review
       | committee?
        
       | gorbachev wrote:
       | "bwok bwok, pukaak!" to you, too!
        
       | 29athrowaway wrote:
       | The chicken assembly language is great.
        
       | xrd wrote:
       | Is this because AI has destroyed all the software jobs? Is it
       | really more lucrative to become a factory farmed chicken these
       | days? I'm worried.
        
       | st_goliath wrote:
       | This is from the same guy who wrote the absolutely wonderful NAND
       | gate article[1] that also featured on HN about a year ago (and
       | was taken surprisingly serious) [2].
       | 
       | [1] https://sebastiancarlos.medium.com/the-nand-gate-one-gate-
       | to...
       | 
       | [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28756727
        
         | svnt wrote:
         | It's fascinating because it (inadvertently, maybe) shows that
         | you can't do satire without understanding the topic. The author
         | seemingly set off to make fun of digital something, couldn't
         | grok it, and settled for documenting an afternoon sort of
         | trying.
         | 
         | The nerds missed the joke and jumped in wanting to help,
         | marking one of the first times I've seen this dynamic play out
         | at this level of engagement in web space, although it happens
         | all the time irl.
         | 
         | The author even comments he was trying to capture the "saudade"
         | of trying to understand something using web sources.
        
       | charles_f wrote:
       | Learning how to speak chicken is not becoming a chicken. That's a
       | frequent misconception that borders cultural appropriation.
       | Chickens aren't just about a few bock-bock and cockle-doodle-
       | doos. They have a rich set of physical expressions as well (flap
       | flaps, head kicks, grating the soil, etc) and a vibrant culture
       | that is transmitted between generations. Their philosophy on
       | death and their capacity to always see life on the sunny-side is
       | both unique and deep, the fruit of seeing their children being
       | picked for food on a daily basis. This should be celebrated. The
       | article completely missed the point on that aspect.
       | 
       | Pretending you became a chicken because you're now performing a
       | few chicken-like sounds is plain wrong, an insult to the poultry
       | community.
        
         | dgfitz wrote:
         | "Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken" -
         | Chuck
        
           | ysavir wrote:
           | I can't tell if you're actually quoting the show Chuck or
           | just summarizing charles_f's comment and attributing it to
           | "Chuck", which is a nickname for Charles.
        
             | charles_f wrote:
             | A more appropriate way of putting was
             | 
             | "chucking up feathers up your cloaca doesn't make you a
             | chicken"
        
             | datalopers wrote:
             | It's a quote from the book, Fight Club, by Chuck Palahniuk.
        
         | officialchicken wrote:
         | You are absolutely correct about the nuance, but I disagree
         | with this 'no true chickenman' argument. We all started
         | somewhere below expert-level.
        
         | bjornsing wrote:
         | Yea, this is chickenwashing.
        
         | inglor_cz wrote:
         | On the other hand, the first programmer identifying as a
         | chicken occupies a truly unique niche in the DIE ecosystem ...
         | 
         | Of course, within mere weeks, more and more are going to start
         | flocking to interviews.
        
           | beardyw wrote:
           | > identifying as a chicken
           | 
           | Just woke nonsense. If you didn't hatch out of an egg you are
           | not a chicken - end of!
        
             | hsbauauvhabzb wrote:
             | I don't think anyone was implying that at a literal level,
             | no need to get triggered.
        
               | Volundr wrote:
               | I think GP was understood the joke as was continuing the
               | parody... Buy with all the people having conniptions
               | about "litter boxes in schools" it's honestly hard to
               | tell.
        
             | charles_f wrote:
             | You need to prime the cycle somewhere though, i.e. Either
             | someone started identifying as a chicken and laying eggs,
             | or someone started identifying as an egg and transformed
             | into a chicken, but scientifically they couldn't appear
             | from pure void
        
         | 8note wrote:
         | > life on the sunny side
         | 
         | Yeesh
        
       | Joeboy wrote:
       | See also[0]
       | 
       | [0] https://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/my-life-as-a-turkey-
       | introduc...
        
       | echelon wrote:
       | This is my favorite post on HN in ages. I needed the light humor.
        
       | nativecoinc wrote:
       | I'm happy that the author was able to become a chicken. I am!
       | However, I think he is a bit brazen with regards to this attitude
       | of his:
       | 
       | > Bwok bwok bwok, puk puk pukaaak! Cluckity cluck cluck, puk puk
       | pukaaak! Bwwwaaaaaaaaaak!
       | 
       | I know many engineers who would love to become chickens. But they
       | also have responsibilities. They can't just drop everything and
       | commit to the faunamorphosis. Not to mention that faunamorphosis
       | costs so much that pretty much only FAANG salaried folks can go
       | through with their chicken dream -- and especially now in this
       | economy.
        
         | inglor_cz wrote:
         | On a similar note.
         | 
         | "It's not a question of wanting to be a mouse -- it just sort
         | of happens to you... All of a sudden you realize... that's what
         | you want to be."
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mouse_Problem
         | 
         | Of course, becoming a mouse is ambiguous in the programming
         | world. If you want to become a mouse, please specify the
         | correct namespace first.
         | 
         | Becoming a chicken is much easier. It just autoloads without
         | any extra specification.
        
       | tromp wrote:
       | I'm surprised the code is not written in Chicken [1].
       | 
       | [1]
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_(Scheme_implementation...
        
         | Apocryphon wrote:
         | Or in Braincluck
        
       | forgotmypw17 wrote:
       | https://archive.ph/Hmpd5
        
       | codingdave wrote:
       | In all seriousness, part of me wants to replace all coding
       | questions in future interviews with the code from this article.
       | It isn't hard to follow, it just looks absurd. So if people can
       | follow it, they can code -- No more FizzBuzz - just
       | CluckCluckity.
        
       | naet wrote:
       | I was just feeling down as I completed a 3 hour code screen where
       | I was supposed to be recording my screen the whole time I worked,
       | but somehow I botched it and don't have any recording to show.
       | Awkward and my own fault...
       | 
       | Those chicken diagrams got a legitimate smile and chuckle out of
       | me though. Thanks for the day brightener!!
       | 
       | Reminded me a bit of this "Microservices" youtube sketch which
       | also includes a surreal architecture diagram (and is very funny):
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/y8OnoxKotPQ
        
       | giantdude wrote:
       | I expected chicken scheme
        
       | lloydatkinson wrote:
       | This feels like my brain after a week of agile/scrum/bullshit
       | meetings and processes that get in the way of creating software.
       | Takes the weekend to go return to normal.
        
       | eloathing wrote:
       | Just a reminder that classic joke:
       | 
       | "Why did the chicken cross the road?"
       | 
       | "To get to the other side!"
       | 
       | Is not just a stupid anti-joke about crossing the road, it is a
       | dark joke about a chicken going to the other side of life
       | (death).
        
         | happyopossum wrote:
         | That's likely ret-conning the joke - first, the earliest
         | references (mid 1800s) say "to get on the other side" which
         | doesn't track to the dark interpretation as well.
         | 
         | Also, in the mid 1800s, crossing a road wouldn't pose any
         | danger to a chicken. A railroad track - yes, a factory floor -
         | sure, but a road? Used mostly for foot or carriage traffic? No
         | danger whatsoever - a chicken can move more than fast enough to
         | get out of the way of even a quickly driven carriage.
         | 
         | Third, and most importantly, it was a common minstrel show
         | line, and minstrel shows were filled with anti-humor.
         | 
         | Sometimes the easiest and most obvious answer is actually the
         | right one.
        
       | loquisgon wrote:
       | So funny! Thanks you made my day LOL hard!
        
       | technologia wrote:
       | I had to chuckle given the detail of the article such as it is.
        
       | Traubenfuchs wrote:
       | If you are interested in chicken to this degree your theme song
       | is.
       | 
       | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=unW7UYXSQNY
        
         | sph wrote:
         | I'm tipsy and that was quite the trip. Not sure how I've never
         | heard this before. Now it's gonna be stuck in my head for days.
        
         | whirlwin wrote:
         | Also https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msSc7Mv0QHY
        
           | mrlonglong wrote:
           | I was thinking of this one: https://youtu.be/kvKazPkRVjQ
        
         | ericpruitt wrote:
         | I was expecting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msSc7Mv0QHY.
        
       | blowski wrote:
       | Cluckbait.
        
       | vletal wrote:
       | Did that chicken got recently laid off from Twitter?
        
       | citilife wrote:
       | Feel like this could have been gpt3 lol pretty funny.
        
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       | lozenge wrote:
       | Bok bok cluckity SQUAAK
        
       | jdeaton wrote:
       | Tastefully postmodern
        
         | worldsayshi wrote:
         | I wonder what the post-postmodern take on this would look like.
        
           | jesse__ wrote:
           | An actual chicken would write it
        
             | snoot wrote:
             | Pkark?
        
           | nanomonkey wrote:
           | I'm going to suggest that polyglot literate programming would
           | be the most metamodern (another term for post-postmodern)
           | take, with humor and self criticizing progress journaling
           | thrown in.
        
           | sph wrote:
           | "How I went from being a chicken to selling my own company
           | (YC 2023) in 6 months."
        
       | orhmeh09 wrote:
       | This is the first article I've clicked before going right to
       | comments in months
        
       | teraflop wrote:
       | For those who would like a slightly more technical overview of
       | this subject, I can recommend this research paper:
       | https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf
        
         | piperswe wrote:
         | I forgot about chicken.pdf... it's great to print to a buddy's
         | networked printer as a prank
        
         | yojo wrote:
         | It looks like TFA uses some diagrams from that pdf without
         | attribution. I get that we're firmly in the realm of absurdity,
         | but it still feels... cheep
        
         | kamilm wrote:
         | For those who prefer the video format:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_-1d9OSdk
        
         | hprotagonist wrote:
         | Presentation and slides:
         | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_-1d9OSdk
        
         | JamesCoyne wrote:
         | Yeah, the paper provides good insight into the phenomenon. Doug
         | also gives a really good presentation on the same material:
         | https://youtu.be/yL_-1d9OSdk
        
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