[HN Gopher] An Interview with Mickey Petersen, Author of Masteri...
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An Interview with Mickey Petersen, Author of Mastering Emacs
Author : cocacola1
Score : 76 points
Date : 2022-11-19 18:28 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| chipotle_coyote wrote:
| If you use Emacs in Vim mode -- I'm not much of an Emacs user in
| general, but lately I've actually tentatively taken to Doom
| Emacs, much to my own surprise -- is _Mastering Emacs_ still
| useful?
| ashton314 wrote:
| _Editing code is easy; there 's myriad editors, including Emacs
| of course, that can do this. But there aren't many tools to track
| bibliography, your agenda, email, notes, and writing. But Emacs
| can easily do all of that, and much more._
|
| There is a certain ilk that prefers to tinker with their tools,
| until they are just the right shape, versus those who learn to
| compensate for quirks in their tools. Emacs is definitely quirky,
| but its strength is it handling your manic desire for total
| workflow integration.
| alfiedotwtf wrote:
| I went through Mastering Emacs before actually jumping ship from
| Vim to Emacs. Glad I did!
|
| After more than 25 years of Vim, in the last month I've
| completely switched to Emacs. And it feels like a super power...
| I'll be using it for the next 25 years and beyond!
| nnoitra wrote:
| Why, what's so good about it?
| nnoitra wrote:
| bch wrote:
| Enjoy the new environment.
|
| I used to be a "competent" vi user, laughing at the Emacs vs vi
| jokes, until I realized I didn't _really_ know Emacs. I gave
| myself a 4-week challenge where I'd use nothing but Emacs, for
| the challenge, and to learn. Fast forward 5-6 years later,
| still an Emacs user, I wondered if I could understand vi as
| well as I'd come to know Emacs. I gave myself a challenge, ...
|
| Have since done the same w ex(1), but I didn't let it stick for
| many years as a daily-driver.
|
| I'd recommend the challenge to anybody. I did the transition
| doing "production work", so it's possible - you may not have to
| "wait for the right time."
|
| Enjoy your editing in good health.
| smitty1e wrote:
| I'm a https://www.spacemacs.org/ devotee. I love the Vim
| commands, but physically cannot take more than light
| interaction with the Emacs default key bindings.
|
| How sweet it is to completely reconfigure the environment
| without losing magit and org-mode.
| wentin wrote:
| The closest I ever got with vim is with this game: https://vim-
| adventures.com/ How different is Vim and Emacs' user experience?
| Would the vim-adventures also apply to emacs?
| thrown_22 wrote:
| No.
|
| Vim is a text editor.
|
| Emacs is a lisp interpreter whose dialect of lisp is
| specialized for text manipulation. In emacs the user interface
| is incidental to the main goal of programmatic text
| manipulation.
|
| In vim the user interface is the be all and end all. Which is
| why vim is now a specialized emacs mode when you need character
| based text manipulation.
| mark_l_watson wrote:
| Nice interview. I have been using Emacs for about 40 years, and I
| am getting a lot out of Petersen's book. He recommends reading
| the Emacs Manual - I mostly did that decades ago, and forgot most
| of it.
|
| Anyway, I recommend his book.
| uptownfunk wrote:
| What helped you most getting up to speed in emacs? Every time I
| try I give up
| rayiner wrote:
| I learned it by using it to do a project in college in Common
| Lisp using SLIME. There wasn't really a good Lisp environment
| for the editor I was used to before that (visual studio) so o
| had to power through.
| mark_l_watson wrote:
| In the early days, it was easy to install Emacs on any system
| I was working on.
|
| In modern times, VSCode is a fine substitute for Emacs, so
| try that. I generally prefer Emacs because I am so used to
| it.
| User23 wrote:
| VS Code has many pleasant properties, but its lack of
| respect for user freedom is a real turn off. Also it is
| considerably less conveniently extensible than Emacs. That
| however is definitely a double edged sword and there are
| valid reasons to go with a less customizable tool.
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