[HN Gopher] Hyundai's Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Au...
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       Hyundai's Ioniq 6 EV makes its US debut at the LA Auto Show
        
       Author : alphabettsy
       Score  : 25 points
       Date   : 2022-11-19 18:15 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | rasz wrote:
       | Chinese are coming $37K
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ora_Good_Cat
        
       | rootusrootus wrote:
       | I'm impressed with the risks Hyundai has been taking with their
       | design language, especially on the EVs. This car is striking.
       | Love it or hate it, boring it's not.
        
         | germinalphrase wrote:
         | Absolutely. Hard to tell one badge from another on the road
         | these days.
         | 
         | With this, I love a lot of the design choices in isolation -
         | but as a whole package, I'm not quite sure. I'd need to walk
         | around one.
         | 
         | Interior side mirror screens are an interesting UX choice.
        
           | alphabettsy wrote:
           | > Hard to tell one badge from another on the road these days.
           | 
           | Nitpick. When wasn't this true?
        
         | VBprogrammer wrote:
         | Honestly, never thought my favour car would be a Hyundai. If I
         | won the lottery there would definitely be a Hyundai Ionic 5 in
         | my shopping basket.
        
         | JamesianP wrote:
         | Looks like an Audi. Perhaps a bit of Porsche in there (i.e.
         | more Audi). Makes sense when you consider the Audi people they
         | hired.
         | 
         | I certainly agree with the sentiment that it is an improvement
         | though. And that modern high-volume passengers cars (with some
         | exceptions, like muscle cars) have in the past been so ugly.
        
         | randrews9 wrote:
         | The n vision 74 is particularly striking:
         | https://www.hyundai-n.com/en/models/rolling-lab/n-vision-74....
        
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           | malshe wrote:
           | Damn, that's one sexy car!
        
       | gtaylor wrote:
       | Different car, but I've been super pleased with my Ioniq 5. The
       | build quality and comfort are much better than the Teslas we were
       | considering.
        
         | m_ke wrote:
         | We got the hybrid sonata, because charging can still be a
         | problem in NYC, and have been super happy with it too:
         | https://www.hyundaiusa.com/us/en/vehicles/sonata-hybrid/gall...
        
         | ianai wrote:
         | They also tend to get significantly better range than stated,
         | right? I've read that from their previous EV models anyway.
        
           | 20after4 wrote:
           | Not an EV, but my 2021 Hyundai Elantra gets around 52mpg on
           | the highway, though it's rated at "Up to 33 city / 43
           | highway" I've had an overall average of 46mpg with mixed
           | city/highway driving.
           | 
           | Hyundai clearly is doing well with efficiency.
        
         | MrMan wrote:
         | really want one but sadly just got another Chevy Bolt which is
         | a great car but not as fancy
        
       | rdtwo wrote:
       | Super efficient but ugly af
        
         | pleb_nz wrote:
         | It's different for sure. I wouldn't say it's any uglier than a
         | Tesla though and it looks like it has a few extra tactile
         | buttons inside with is a plus.
        
         | jryan49 wrote:
         | At least tell us what you find ugly about it.
        
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         | filoleg wrote:
         | Tastes differ. I am way more excited about ioniq 6 design than
         | I am about pretty much any new car released over the past few
         | years, with the exception of the recent Nissan Z redesign.
        
         | cromka wrote:
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
         | 
         | "Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet
         | tropes."
         | 
         | "Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or
         | post to complain about in the thread. Find something
         | interesting to respond to instead."
        
       | pornel wrote:
       | The E-GMP platform shared by this car, as well as Ioniq 5 and Kia
       | EV6 is great.
       | 
       | The 800V battery can charge really quickly, making these cars
       | viable for road trips. In summer temperatures they really need
       | only 18 minutes to recharge for 2-3 hours of driving, and the
       | 300kW charging networks already exist across western Europe.
        
       | ianai wrote:
       | I really want this car but I live in a full size SUV or F150 and
       | above dominated area. Kind of need to be on guard. Plus charging
       | is still too rare to just go and not worry about accommodating.
        
         | josephcsible wrote:
         | > I really want this car but I live in a full size SUV or F150
         | and above dominated area. Kind of need to be on guard.
         | 
         | This feels like a weird reason to not want a small car.
         | Consider that a lot of highways are dominated by semis, but
         | nobody suggests buying a semi to commute in.
        
           | pleb_nz wrote:
           | I find it intriguing you call this a small car. Seems like it
           | would be a medium sized car in my part of the world. Minis
           | and Suzuki swifts and the like would considered small cars.
        
             | ianai wrote:
             | It's a full size car. I'm seeing 5.7-6.3" ground clearance,
             | too, and they can be fitted with 20" wheels which may be
             | the reason for the 6.3" or maybe it goes higher?.
             | 
             | I really do like this car. I just wish I didn't live in
             | fear of being side swiped or rear ended by massive
             | trucks/SUVs. Benefits of living in a rural area with lots
             | of retirees.
             | 
             | Notably we also can get snow that shuts the place down in
             | May/September.
        
               | hedora wrote:
               | If/when you do buy an EV, check the low temperature
               | battery life.
               | 
               | My EV has a heat pump, but still looses a ton of range
               | under 0F-32F or so (which doesn't matter at all around
               | here). This varies widely from brand to brand.
               | 
               | On the other hand, the traction control is eerily good
               | thanks to the computer controlled throttle and
               | instantaneous response from the motor (it is RWD, not
               | 4WD, and performs close our 4WD RAM on mud that is
               | difficult to walk through)
        
           | prirun wrote:
           | Semi drivers are also more careful & qualified IMO. Put an
           | 18-30 y/o behind a huge SUV, talking on the phone while
           | driving, and it's a little different situation.
        
           | lotsofpulp wrote:
           | What if one does not spend most of their time driving on
           | highways near 18 wheelers?
           | 
           | I would rank getting t boned by a pickup truck running a red
           | light or a stop sign much more likely than me getting into it
           | with an 18 wheeler.
           | 
           | Also, the discrepancy between 18 wheeler and individual car
           | (even a large pickup) at highway speeds is so big that trying
           | to mitigate it is pointless.
           | 
           | Also, I would assume the probability of a drunk driver
           | driving a pickup truck is much higher than a drunk driver
           | driving an 18 wheeler.
        
         | derwiki wrote:
         | Unfortunately I feel similarly, especially with a small child.
         | SF has essentially stopped enforcing traffic violations,
         | drivers are getting reckless, and a RAV4 is the smallest
         | vehicle that feels safe to me.
        
           | Tiktaalik wrote:
           | It's really sad that it's come to this.
           | 
           | Regulators asleep at the wheel and they let the "cars" get
           | too big.
        
           | Tempest1981 wrote:
           | Stopped? I saw a bicycle get ticketed recently. Seemed rather
           | strict.
        
             | derwiki wrote:
             | https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/bayarea/heatherknight/articl
             | e...
             | 
             | > 'What exactly are they doing?': 45 S.F. traffic cops
             | issue just 10 citations combined a day
        
           | ianai wrote:
           | Exactly. I've had people try to enter my lane on the highway
           | in my RAV4 Prime! Technically it can happen with any vehicle,
           | but aging demographics sure don't breed confidence.
        
         | hedora wrote:
         | EV's tend to have more crush space than ICE cars, and also
         | weigh more than a comparable sized ICE car.
         | 
         | This model is energy efficient enough to easily do a 20-40 mile
         | commute (each way) and charge overnight on a 120V outlet.
         | 
         | Are you sure chargers are still rare in your area? They are
         | popping up rapidly this year thanks to Biden's infrastructure
         | plan.
        
         | randrews9 wrote:
         | This doesn't feel like a complete assessment of the risk. Truck
         | rollover risk is higher. Additionally, your risk of having a
         | tragic collision with a pedestrian, which you would need to
         | live with, is significantly higher.
        
           | duped wrote:
           | The problem isn't getting hit so much as everyone's
           | headlights being level with your rear view mirror
        
             | rasz wrote:
             | oh, but regulation is bad, and annual car inspections are
             | oppressive ... Afaik US is the only civilized country on
             | this planed without legit technical car inspections.
        
               | duped wrote:
               | The US isn't one place. Different states have different
               | laws. My state has mandated safety inspections in
               | addition to emissions.
        
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