[HN Gopher] Snowdon to be known by it's Welsh name Yr Wyddfa
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       Snowdon to be known by it's Welsh name Yr Wyddfa
        
       Author : jimnotgym
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2022-11-18 19:39 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | unculture wrote:
       | I'm just loving the fact that this news article from the BBC
       | provides no instruction about how to pronounce either Yr Wyddfa
       | or Eryri. If only there were a way for the BBC to include audio
       | on the page!
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | fourthark wrote:
         | They give pronunciation in the picture toward the bottom of the
         | article.
        
         | parkersweb wrote:
         | It's badly done - but it is there. Text overlay in the mountain
         | image. Er-with-va - Snowdon Eh-ruh-re - Snowdonia
        
       | m463 wrote:
       | I thought this was about the whistleblower - it's about the name
       | of a welsh mountain. :)
        
         | layman51 wrote:
         | Same here. But also I got confused because I remember it being
         | spelled with an "e" near the end.
        
       | Normille wrote:
       | Actual title: Snowdon: Park to use mountain's Welsh name Yr
       | Wyddfa
       | 
       | If you'd kept that, you'd not have misused that apostrophe on _it
       | 's_
        
       | Veen wrote:
       | I'm all for using the Welsh names, but I don't think it makes
       | sense to remove the English equivalents. Although about 60% of
       | people in Gwynedd speak Welsh, most Welsh people can't and
       | approximately no one who isn't Welsh can.
        
         | hanoz wrote:
         | Unfortunately the 20% who speak Welsh dominate the institutions
         | of power in Wales, in gross disproportion to thier number, and
         | moves like this are more about power than making any kind of
         | practical sense. See also the recently announced plans for the
         | Welsh football team to be known as Cymru, even when referred to
         | in English. This sort of parochial nonsense goes on at every
         | level and really holds Wales back.
        
           | squidbeak wrote:
           | If the Welsh Government isn't going to champion Welsh, who
           | is?
        
             | hanoz wrote:
             | It's a question of approach. Ramming it down people's
             | throats is not Championing. Making it compulsory up to the
             | age of 16, to the detriment of other subjects, so that it's
             | almost universally resented in my children's school, for
             | example, is not the way to go about it.
        
               | simplotek wrote:
               | > Making it compulsory up to the age of 16, to the
               | detriment of other subjects (...)
               | 
               | Which subject do you believe should have a higher
               | priority than defending the cultural identity of a
               | nation?
        
       | vincebowdren wrote:
       | In retaliation, the Yorkshire Dales national park are proposing
       | to rename Pen-y-ghent to something more English.
       | 
       | (this is a joke; the point is that there are lots of places in
       | Britain with unexpected, non-local-seeming language roots)
        
         | DFHippie wrote:
         | Well, no-longer-local-seeming language roots. I don't know
         | about _ghent_ , but _pen y_ is pretty Welsh. The locals who don
         | 't recognize it have mostly just forgotten it.
        
       | nashashmi wrote:
       | "... the park already included the Welsh names on English-
       | language documents followed by the English names in parentheses.
       | However, the name Snowdonia is set in law, therefore the
       | authority has the legal requirement to also use it in official
       | statutory documents. Some Welsh-language campaigners have stated
       | they would want the names to be scrapped entirely. The authority
       | announced they are to conduct a review of the authority's
       | branding in 2023 taking into account the new approach to Welsh
       | place names."[1]
       | 
       | [1]
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowdonia#:~:text=the%20park%2...
        
       | basementcat wrote:
       | The area around Yr Wyddfa/Snowden is breathtakingly beautiful.
       | The hike to the summit is not too difficult (there is a more
       | challenging route for those so inclined) and there is the option
       | of riding a train.
        
         | blowski wrote:
         | The hardest bit about climbing it is dealing with the crowds.
         | There is literally a long queue for the peak, and people leave
         | rubbish everywhere. But, yeah, it's beautiful and I was one of
         | the crowd so I shouldn't complain.
        
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