[HN Gopher] All Companies Are Fucked Up
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All Companies Are Fucked Up
Author : jppope
Score : 16 points
Date : 2022-11-15 19:34 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| tanseydavid wrote:
| All companies are pathological is the way I think of it.
|
| But I would add that in my experience it seems to correlate to
| size of the organization. I.E. smaller orgs are not immune but
| the larger you get the more organizational pathology that creeps
| in.
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| For me its based on 30+ years consulting, with many different
| companies of different industries, sizes, and maturity as an
| organization.
|
| The value for me in this notion is that it has stopped me from
| fantasizing about idealistic work scenarios / environments.
| owenpalmer wrote:
| These kinds of statements are getting annoying.
| ajjenkins wrote:
| The author gives two examples of jobs they worked at then asserts
| that all companies are fucked up. I think you need better
| evidence or at least a more persuasive argument to claim that
| "all companies are fucked up". Maybe the author didn't literally
| mean that _all_ companies are fucked up, but I'm not even
| convinced that more than half of companies are fucked up, based
| on this post.
|
| Sorry, maybe I'm just missing the point.
| herrherrmann wrote:
| I agree, the article seems very anecdotal and grossly
| generalizing. The point at the end might be to look for a
| company that suits you, but that's not really a new insight, is
| it?
| bena wrote:
| This is a thing that feels true.
|
| I started at a company that didn't have software as a focus. Went
| to a consultancy and did work for quite a few companies.
| Eventually got hired by a division of a billionaire's
| conglomerate. And I get to interact with members of my profession
| in similar sorts of situations.
|
| And personally, I've yet to get to the internals of a company and
| not find some amount of spit, glue, and rubber bands holding
| together critical infrastructure.
|
| Like always, there's something somewhere that will make me go,
| "They do what?" and raise my eyebrows.
|
| And while I personally have not witnessed it, I do have friends
| who have worked for FAANG level companies and there is some
| amount of cowboy-ness there too.
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| We're all just kinda winging it.
| joshstrange wrote:
| > All companies are fucked up... the trick is finding a company
| that's fucked up in a way that works for you
|
| I think another way to phrase this is "No company is perfect,
| don't let good be the enemy of perfect, find a company that ticks
| as many of your boxes while triggering as few or zero of your red
| flags" or something like that.
|
| Is my job "perfect"? Absolutely not but it's pretty damn close
| and compared to my past jobs it's by far the best (if you can't
| say this then you might want to shop around). I have a friend who
| gets every Friday off, is that nice? Sure is but I wouldn't like
| a number of other things about the company he works for.
| Life/work is a series of tradeoffs/comprimsies, just make sure
| you are feel like you have more positives than negatives and
| you'll be happy.
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| I'm extremely thankful that early in my career I realized that I
| enjoy working for smaller companies. I was "lucky" enough to
| essentially be contracted out to a big client and I hated almost
| every aspect of it (except that I loved working on a single
| product vs the small little projects for various clients as I had
| done before). I took that experience and found a job at a small
| company that had a couple of products that I could iterate on and
| improve.
|
| It's common to say something like "If you aren't changing jobs
| every 2-4 years you are leaving a ton of money on the table",
| that's mostly true but one other big benefit of moving companies
| is you get to exposed to a bunch of different ways companies are
| run, their culture, etc. I feel like every time I've switched
| jobs I've moved closer and closer to my personal "perfect", in
| part because I've recognized the red flags from my past/current
| jobs and watched for them before accepting an offer at a new
| place.
| theonething wrote:
| > I have a friend who gets every Friday off, is that nice?
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| I'm in a similar boat as you. I really like where I'm at and if
| they switched to 4 day work weeks, it would be as perfect as it
| could get in terms of a job for me. Here's to hoping.
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