[HN Gopher] Man ends 20-year Llandegley airport sign joke that c...
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       Man ends 20-year Llandegley airport sign joke that cost PS25k
        
       Author : ljf
       Score  : 179 points
       Date   : 2022-11-14 18:53 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | blamazon wrote:
       | There's an official sign in Boston that advises drivers they need
       | only travel 3,365 more miles to reach Newport, Oregon:
       | 
       | https://twitter.com/MassDOT/status/806867577112854529
        
         | function_seven wrote:
         | I remember seeing this one[0] when I was younger. There was a
         | counterpart sign in North Carolina[1], but apparently it was
         | stolen too often, and is no longer being replaced.
         | 
         | [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/NorthCarolina/comments/bz6ath
         | 
         | [1]
         | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Wilmingt...
        
           | robocat wrote:
           | That leads to an article about the 420 mile marker sign
           | getting stolen so often that they replaced it with a 419.99
           | mile marker sign.
           | 
           | https://www.denverpost.com/2014/01/10/colorado-hopes-a-
           | mile-...
        
         | Gibbon1 wrote:
         | Should say Newport Oregon, 3,365 miles. Proceed at own risk.
        
         | hinkley wrote:
         | Once in a while I'll see someone talking about Portland and get
         | very confused as I slowly work out that they're talking about
         | Portland, Maine.
         | 
         | Why would people in <New England State> give a shit about
         | what's going on in Oreg... oh.
         | 
         | Probably the Boston sign is having a jab at Newport Rhode
         | Island.
        
           | cestith wrote:
           | Oddly enough Portland, Oregon is named for Portland, Maine.
           | If the coin toss had gone the other way it'd be named after
           | Boston.
        
         | keepquestioning wrote:
         | Is this the longest highway in the US?
        
           | dexterdog wrote:
           | It is. The next two longest also start around there: US6 in
           | Boston and I90 which starts at the tip of Cape Cod.
        
       | Jiro wrote:
       | This reads like a justification for trolling. "Nobody's hurt and
       | it's all in good fun. My fun and my friends' fun, that is."
       | 
       | Putting up a fake sign is like dropping a single piece of litter.
       | It's not going to do much by itself, it's just a tiny bit of
       | pollution which makes signs a tiny bit less useful to the general
       | public.
        
         | ALittleLight wrote:
         | I think the cost solves this issue. It would be annoying if
         | there were lots of fake street signs. Many people must get the
         | idea to put up a random sign for something that doesn't exist,
         | and more would upon seeing such signs, but very few people are
         | willing to pay a thousand dollars a year for the joke.
        
         | petercooper wrote:
         | If you live in a country where there are arbitrary signs almost
         | everywhere, like the US, I could see the argument. In the UK,
         | however, this sign very clearly stands out as unusual and a
         | joke. We don't tend to have large, independent signs and
         | billboards on 60mph roads, especially not on the Welsh borders,
         | so the sign's mere presence is curious enough and unlikely to
         | detract from any other signs in the area.
        
           | z9znz wrote:
           | As long as Google doesn't mistakenly add the nonexistent
           | airport to their maps, it is harmless to some and amusing to
           | others.
        
         | z9znz wrote:
         | I do get your point related to litter, but there are times when
         | - like with intentional misspellings or intentional wrong
         | grammar - jokes can be made which are harmless to most but
         | recognized as fun to a few.
        
         | zaptrem wrote:
         | I'm sure nobody will try to drive to an Airport to which they
         | are unable to buy tickets.
        
           | bena wrote:
           | Yeah, I'm trying to come up with a scenario in which someone
           | will be harmed by this.
           | 
           | It's not like there's an airport and the sign is pointing to
           | the wrong one. I don't arbitrarily visit airports.
           | 
           | The worst thing I can think of is to tell someone that I'd be
           | landing at the Llandegley airport and that I need a ride.
           | Then they ride out to a field and I'm not there. But that's
           | just plain old lying. I can say I'd be landing at Heathrow
           | and the effect is the same. Even worse because Heathrow is an
           | actual airport and they'd probably spend a bit looking for
           | me. At least with Llandegley, the bit is up as soon as they
           | pull into the field.
        
             | tlb wrote:
             | You can spend many hours at Heathrow waiting for someone to
             | show up. And that's if they are arriving on a flight.
             | 
             | FWIW, the UK is full of disused airports. Like if you
             | search Google Maps for the nearest airport thinking "I'll
             | have my jet pick me up there" it's probably now an
             | industrial park built on top of a crumbling WWII airstrip.
             | They built a lot of airstrips during the war, so the
             | Luftwaffe couldn't bomb them all.
        
               | Gordonjcp wrote:
               | A chunk of the M8 motorway just west of Glasgow runs
               | along what used to be the runway of the old Renfrew
               | Airport. It was only open for 12 years and sat derelict
               | after closing in 1966 for about another ten years.
               | 
               | A bit of a shame really because it really was a stunning
               | building.
               | 
               | https://www.glasgowarchitecture.co.uk/renfrew-airport
        
         | cjg wrote:
         | Much like stonehenge.
        
         | pessimizer wrote:
         | Imagine having to justify a joke as anodyne as this.
        
         | TheBlobIsReal wrote:
         | FTA : _" Mr Whitehead added "as a journalist, whatever you do,
         | someone, somewhere, is going to get upset about it".
         | 
         | However, this particular joke has seemingly been popular among
         | locals and tourists alike.
         | 
         | "In 20 years, I haven't had a single complaint about Llandegley
         | International," he said.
         | 
         | "Loads of people love it, some people might not get it. But as
         | far as I know, nobody is upset or angry about it. That's a
         | first for me."_
         | 
         | Guess, we found the one person upset...
        
       | ilaksh wrote:
       | Note that the article doesn't say that the town has put up the
       | money to keep it going. If it is driving tourism, they might try
       | to organize a bit and raise the funds.
        
         | netsharc wrote:
         | Feels like nowadays you can just put up a GoFundMe and the
         | money will show up, providing the subject "went viral".
        
       | _jal wrote:
       | A couple years back a sign memorializing the Emperor Norton
       | Memorial Bridge was placed at the onramp around 5th and Bryant in
       | San Francisco. Unfortunately it was taken down fairly quickly.
       | 
       | (The history is, some wag called the Bay Bridge the Willie L
       | Brown Jr. Bridge, for some reason people started calling it that,
       | and others who don't know any better perpetuate it. But real San
       | Franciscans know it was and will always be Emperor Norton's
       | bridge, and occasionally reminders of that fact go up.)
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco-Oakland_Bay_Brid...
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton
        
       | mftb wrote:
       | Sign Hacking in the LA Freeway Dystopia -
       | https://thelandmag.com/richard-ankrom-guerrilla-public-servi...
        
       | justinator wrote:
       | > "I remember, after Boulder approved same sex marriage
       | certificates (back in 1975 or earlier!) someone doctored a photo
       | of the sign to say something along the lines of 'Welcome to
       | Lesbian Homoville' (I think it was quoting testimony from a city
       | council meeting.)"
       | 
       | https://at.tumblr.com/thefuckingflatirons/boulder-welcome-to...
        
       | drekipus wrote:
       | Enough fun and games, time to pull down the joke and put the
       | space to good use.
       | 
       | Advertising.
        
         | z9znz wrote:
         | I fear your obvious sarcasm will still be missed... or
         | overflown as one might say.
        
       | dang wrote:
       | As long as we're talking Welsh road sign stories, there's this
       | classic:
       | 
       |  _E-mail error ends up on road sign_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=350186 - Oct 2008 (12
       | comments)
        
         | dcminter wrote:
         | That's a gem.
         | 
         | I have a copy of volume 2 of "Signs of the Times" from the
         | 1970s, which is a catalogue of similarly amusing signs sent in
         | by readers of The Times newspaper. My personal favourite is
         | "Please do not throw sticks, stones, or this sign over the
         | edge" from a cliff edge in South Africa :)
        
       | Nekhrimah wrote:
       | Reminds me a little of the "Welcome to Luton" prank from earlier
       | this year by Max Fosh:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya_LluCl16k
        
         | blamazon wrote:
         | Some time after a period of my life where I was routinely
         | traveling to and from Cleveland, I woke up from a nap on a
         | plane to Milwaukee and saw this sign, it really got me:
         | 
         | https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/welcome-to-cleveland-sig...
        
           | samstave wrote:
           | I'm not sure if its _that_ sign, but I have seen one of these
           | before...
        
       | tomjakubowski wrote:
       | my favorite highway sign prank was when Harvey Mudd students
       | changed a sign on the 210 which read:                 California
       | Institute of Technology        Pasadena City College       Next
       | Exit
       | 
       | to:                 California Institute of Technology
       | (Pasadena City College)       Next Exit
        
         | selimthegrim wrote:
         | They could have fixed the one in the other direction that
         | incorrectly said Cal Tech until recently.
         | 
         | But more into easier is probably the guerrilla freeway sign
         | heist adding an I-5 NORTH indication on the 110 north by Dodger
         | Stadium before the tunnels
        
           | Fatnino wrote:
           | I remember seeing that one and thinking it looked a tiny bit
           | wonkey but what can you expect from a last minute patch job.
           | 
           | I thought it was official and it was very useful.
        
       | r0m4n0 wrote:
       | Reminds me of the legitimate freeway sign in Sacramento that says
       | "Ocean City MD, 3073 Miles"
       | 
       | I never knew the story behind it but apparently they have the
       | same thing there with miles to Sacramento!
       | 
       | https://www.capradio.org/articles/2016/05/06/two-coasts-two-...
        
         | lastofthemojito wrote:
         | Just outside Baltimore, where I-70 begins its journey west,
         | there's a sign listing mileage to Columbus, St Louis, Denver,
         | and... Cove Fort - the unpopulated place in Utah that happens
         | to mark the western terminus of I-70.
         | 
         | From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cove_Fort
         | 
         | > In 2004, the Federal Highway Administration was testing a new
         | typeface, Clearview, designed to have improved readability at
         | night with headlight illumination. One test sign was placed at
         | Baltimore, Maryland - the eastern terminus of Interstate 70 -
         | that listed Cove Fort as a control city with a distance of
         | 2,200 mi (3,500 km). One employee stated with the number of
         | queries the department received about Cove Fort, the test was a
         | success. The sign became so popular that after the test was
         | over, federal authorities made arrangements with Maryland
         | authorities to keep the sign permanently installed. The sign
         | prompted a series of stories about Cove Fort to be published in
         | the Baltimore area. Since that time, a small effort has been
         | made by people in both states to lobby the Utah Department of
         | Transportation to reciprocate by placing a sign at Cove Fort
         | listing the distance to Baltimore.
        
           | selimthegrim wrote:
           | I think Clearview ended up not being optimal but they found
           | this out in the middle or after the nationwide rollout?
        
         | hinkley wrote:
         | Sister City program?
        
           | bombcar wrote:
           | Opposite ends of a major highway.
        
             | hinkley wrote:
             | Oooh. Right.
        
             | samstave wrote:
             | Exactly. They are telling you just how far you can get on
             | that particular strip.
        
               | bombcar wrote:
               | Next Exit: 1m
               | 
               | Last Exit: 3,073m
               | 
               |  _bounds testing is important!_
        
               | hinkley wrote:
               | "First gas for 3073 miles" would be a funny road sign as
               | well.
        
               | samstave wrote:
               | It would be funny if a particular [COMPANY/GAS STATION]
               | put a sign up, whereby say, they are in baltimore, but
               | bought a sign in SF advertising a super cheap gas price
               | if you just come on by, and gas is FREE - we are
               | conveniently located of HWY X, 3,015 miles east, then
               | take a left"
               | 
               | EDIT: I think I just reiterated what you just said.
               | though you were more succinct.
        
               | bombcar wrote:
               | Somehow reminds me of those "free beer tomorrow" signs.
               | 
               | You might be able to do something with a chain or
               | restaurant that is on both ends, a little coin they can
               | take from one to the other if they're driving all the
               | way.
        
               | hinkley wrote:
               | There's a bar I walked passed at some point that had a
               | sandwich board out front that said something like: we are
               | known for friendly women, free beer, and false
               | advertising.
        
         | bombcar wrote:
         | This kind of thing should be done at the beginning and end of
         | every interstate, in my opinion.
         | 
         | Lends a bit of flavor, though San Diego, CA may have more of
         | them than most cities.
        
         | kloch wrote:
         | That's US route 50. There is indeed a similar 3000+ mile sign
         | on the other end in Ocean City.
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Route_50
        
       | cestith wrote:
       | Way cheaper than a social media giant.
        
       | brandonscott wrote:
       | how does it cost $1,500 a year to maintain it?
        
         | Gare wrote:
         | Looks like a rented billboard
        
       | Rebelgecko wrote:
       | This was a much more poignant article than I was expecting
       | 
       | "The sign can come down but the airport is still there. The
       | airport exists in the same way that songs exist. If you set fire
       | to the scrap of paper on which Paul McCartney wrote Yesterday,
       | that wouldn't destroy the song. E
        
         | nyc111 wrote:
         | Coincidentally, I was thinking about this example today. The
         | paper in fact is not the song. It becomes a song when it is
         | sang. When it is given voice. In fact it is hard to say what
         | the song is. You can play it with different instruments. You
         | can play it in its recorded form on various media. All these
         | will sound different. I was thinking "reality" is like this
         | too. So I don't think the sign can make the airport.
        
           | TylerE wrote:
           | This is what a meme really is.
        
             | markburns wrote:
             | The vast majority of our waking hours are spent pondering
             | things that are not in the least bit real like this. Just
             | memes that only humans are aware of and believe in.
             | 
             | This airport is as real as a song, as santa, as a country,
             | a law, the value of money, words.
             | 
             | In fact, an overwhelming majority of things that we
             | generally perceive to be real are only things that exist in
             | the shared consciousness of human beings. The only
             | difference between santa and a law is just how strongly
             | people believe in and how many people willingly support the
             | latter.
             | 
             | But santa and laws are of the exact same category of made
             | up ideas that we choose to believe in and that influence
             | our group behaviour.
             | 
             | Some things do exist, like the combination of materials
             | that make up buildings that we inhabit.
             | 
             | But their meaning and purpose and ownership and the reasons
             | we enter them and the vast majority of what buildings mean
             | to us aren't in the least bit real.
             | 
             | I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to find out that
             | ant and bee colonies also share their own memes that help
             | structure their societies.
        
               | jacobr1 wrote:
               | And even there was a "real" airport - you'd face
               | considerations like "Theseus ship"
        
               | 7952 wrote:
               | And much of what we percieve as real isn't. Your senses
               | are used as an input to a model rather than being
               | available in a raw form and we percieve the model. For
               | example your brain takes a stream of data from your eyes
               | as they flick in different directions and different focus
               | levels. But what you percieve is a fully rendered model
               | with no edges and an understanding of depth. But it is
               | always an abstraction. The yellow blob at the edge of
               | your field of view may be a lion rather than a wheat
               | field. And the car 100m away could be the size of a
               | mountain.
        
       | WalterBright wrote:
       | In the 1980s when Reagan sent wheat to the USSR, a sign appeared
       | in Kansas proclaiming "Kansas: Breadbasket of the Soviet Union".
        
       | mongol wrote:
       | It is the terminals that make the joke right? Airports comes in
       | all sizes.
        
         | xdfgh1112 wrote:
         | The UK doesn't do that much domestic flying, only cities tend
         | to have airports.
        
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