[HN Gopher] Show HN: WebApp/Site Builder with IDE and Visual Editor
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       Show HN: WebApp/Site Builder with IDE and Visual Editor
        
       Hi folks,  Let me know about your experience!  Some of the features
       are: + Free SSL + Free Subdomain + Connecting Domain +
       Collaboration + Code IDE with Auto-completion + Visual Editor + ...
        
       Author : mrdpzk
       Score  : 6 points
       Date   : 2022-11-13 19:56 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (getlivewebsite.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (getlivewebsite.com)
        
       | jraph wrote:
       | My experience is a blue background with a white rectangle
       | covering most of the background when clicking on your submission
       | link. I browse without JS enabled by default and I can't read
       | your website at all.
       | 
       | I wouldn't bother rising this on most HN submissions because that
       | doesn't follow HN guidelines, but here I feel like it's
       | important.
       | 
       | I'm attached to the Web being browsable without running
       | random/untrusted/non-free 3rd party code written in a Turing
       | complete language.
       | 
       | I'm likely not the target to this: I will write my own HTML.
       | However, I'm looking for (FLOSS) tools to recommend to people who
       | don't have the skills to write their website by hand. I can't
       | recommend this because I'm not sure it will produce websites
       | respecting the long forgotten [1] graceful degradation /
       | progressive enhancement principles, since the home page of the
       | tool does not respect them. (I won't expect the app itself to
       | work without JS, it's fine, it's an app (vs a document)).
       | 
       | Good luck with your project!
       | 
       | [1] Yes, it depresses me to think I'm going to die on this hill
       | alone or with few people, it seems like the web has gone off from
       | graceful degradation and requires a VM to be read now and we are
       | not really going back from this.
        
       | marginalia_nu wrote:
       | Technically pretty impressive, but if I am permitted to be blunt,
       | it's severely lacking in polish.
       | 
       | Overall the website doesn't look good on desktop. I look at this:
       | https://imgur.com/3SoPR67 and think that some elements have
       | failed to load. It's so empty and white. The "learn more" button
       | is completely unnecessary. You could just put the information
       | there in the first place.
       | 
       | Overall much of the landing page feels like unnecessary filler,
       | pro forma rather filling an actual function. Like it's almost all
       | fluff that doesn't really tell me anything and I'm just wearing
       | out the scroll wheel on my mouse before getting to the free trial
       | so I can check out what the heck it is.
       | 
       | I'm also immediately assaulted by multiple popups, one of which
       | keeps animating and making noises. That's a big turnoff. I don't
       | want to talk to a sales rep before I even know what I'm being
       | sold.
       | 
       | Like none of this is a major flaw, it needs polish and iteration.
       | 
       | I'd make some use cases, consider some user categories (maybe
       | someone who has heard of the product and want to try it, someone
       | who doesn't know what it is, etc.), and consider what would such
       | a person ask when they visit your website, and then investigate
       | if the website answers the questions.
       | 
       | The first question I asked is "what is this?". The answer I got
       | is "It manages the entire cycle of Building, Hosting and Serving
       | websites," which is pretty vague. Maybe prominently display some
       | demo websites that have been built using getlivewebsite.com? I
       | think that would sell a lot better than merely talking about the
       | service and its features.
       | 
       | On a technical level, you've got some z-index issues on Firefox.
       | https://imgur.com/B53ghcP
        
         | mrdpzk wrote:
         | Thanks for your comment. very constructive. we will work more
         | on polishing it and apply the changes you mentioned. your
         | comment makes total sense. Thanks Again!
        
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