[HN Gopher] Get your money off crypto.com immediately
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       Get your money off crypto.com immediately
        
       Author : Victerius
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2022-11-13 19:47 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | ispo wrote:
       | Beautiful to observe this happening from a socio-economic
       | complexity point of view.
        
       | midislack wrote:
       | It's not money any more, it's simply numbers on somebody else's
       | computer. LOL
        
       | gennarro wrote:
       | https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1591853036208803840
       | 
       | Related: 400m from crypto.com was misplaced earlier this week.
        
       | thundergolfer wrote:
       | Crypto.com was advertised incessantly during major Australian
       | sporting games. Mainstream cryptocoin corporations have clearly
       | targeted low-information consumers and it's an indictment on our
       | society that this advertising wasn't regulated out of existence
       | around 2018.
       | 
       | So many Australians are going to lose savings they really need.
       | Thank god at least for superannuation, the actual wealth building
       | project they should be throwing their money into.
        
         | throwaway5959 wrote:
         | Australians are going to lose far more of their wealth to
         | housing than crypto. But yeah crypto is trash.
         | 
         | Edit: lol immediately downvoted. Guess parent is in on the scam
         | that is Australian housing.
        
         | justinclift wrote:
         | Hopefully no super funds were dumb enough to get involved with
         | this stuff.
        
       | throwaway23597 wrote:
       | I do wonder how this crypto implosion will impact inflation and
       | the average consumer. Crypto continues to have a ginormous market
       | cap of > 800B. But it's unclear how much of this is due to shady
       | schemes and wash trading propping up the price. If crypto went
       | down by 95%, what would happen to the economy? Would the ripple
       | effects trigger another financial crisis? These are questions
       | that it would be nice to not have to find out the answer to, but
       | they may be answered soon anyway.
        
       | andirk wrote:
       | This claim, while I agree, is so far based on nothing. Be careful
       | making these statements.
        
         | throwaheyy wrote:
         | Be careful of what?
         | 
         | A viral "bank run" is the ultimate fitness test of these black-
         | box centralized exchanges, and if an exchange has underlying
         | issues it's better that they be found out sooner rather than
         | later.
        
       | Victerius wrote:
       | Crypto.com's CRO ponzicoin is in freefall:
       | https://i.imgur.com/sJZBv5n.jpeg
        
         | xrd wrote:
         | Ponzicoin should be word of the year 2022! Thank you!
        
       | andrewmcwatters wrote:
       | I wonder how many of these scams need to happen for people to
       | realize this tech isn't a good idea unless you're the one ripping
       | people off.
       | 
       | Do people need to see stronger negative associations than losing
       | all of your money?
       | 
       | Maybe Bitcoin ads should be placed right next to vape pens and
       | cigarettes in convenience stores for people to get the idea, or
       | maybe by casinos?
       | 
       | Maybe Amway should come up with its own NFTs and start marketing
       | to men, too?
        
         | jacooper wrote:
         | Exchanges have nothing to do with blockchains. They are totally
         | a separate thing.
        
           | chitowneats wrote:
           | Exchanges exist because it turns out blockchain is terribly
           | inefficient for transacting. There's all kinds of legitimate
           | economic activity that's too expensive to do on chain.
        
             | jacooper wrote:
             | No they exist because people want to exchange coins on a
             | centralized system, or exchange coins back to government
             | controlled financial system, like a bridge.
             | 
             | Blockchain is far from the most efficient system, but you
             | can't deny how it offered a zero-trust way to garantie
             | value.
        
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         | goodSteveramos wrote:
         | > this tech isn't a good idea
         | 
         | Bitcoin is politically neutral. Wall Street isnt.
        
           | kryptiskt wrote:
           | How can it be politically neutral when it has a builtin
           | monetary policy?
        
           | abriosi wrote:
           | Although I understand and upvoted I think the response is
           | nuanced
           | 
           | This is a good read:
           | 
           | The Blocksize War: The Battle Over Who Controls Bitcoin's
           | Protocol Rules https://g.co/kgs/4axiTg
        
           | Stention314 wrote:
           | Bitcoin has anti censor mechanics. It's definitely not
           | political neutral.
           | 
           | And independent of if Bitcoin is or not: the 'how it's used'
           | matters because the theory matters less.
        
           | andrewmcwatters wrote:
           | I think upon casual reading, one finds that is not true. The
           | Bitcoin Genesis block contained metadata that suggests
           | otherwise:[1]
           | 
           | "The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout
           | for banks"
           | 
           | I personally don't particularly agree with central banks
           | being a utility of commercial banks, but I also don't believe
           | that creating a digital deflationary asset that cannot allow
           | intermediaries to solve human problems like fraud is the
           | answer.
           | 
           | It seems infantile to me to suggest otherwise.
           | 
           | [1]: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block#Coinbase
        
             | tommica wrote:
             | > It seems infantile to me to suggest otherwise.
             | 
             | Nice way to preemptively disregard any comment that might
             | suggest otherwise.
             | 
             | But it's a good point with the "solving human problems"
             | remark - the whole thing tries to avoid human tendencies,
             | while it is meant to solve purely human-made problems.
        
           | whateveracct wrote:
           | Okay let's talk to the average American on HN.
           | 
           | Your point (if it even has much value) does not affect them.
           | US banks and stocks are strictly better than BTC as a place
           | to park their USD as American citizens. Unless they wanna
           | gamble.
        
         | xur17 wrote:
         | You're conflating a bunch of different things here. The main
         | issue being discussed right now is: storing your crypto on
         | exchanges is risky, so don't do it.
        
           | Stention314 wrote:
           | Not true.
           | 
           | His cigarette comparison is spot on.
           | 
           | After all you also need to read and sign that you have
           | knowledge when opening a brokerage account too.
           | 
           | We are a safe society. Sane default is build (more or less)
           | so lifing is safe for us.
           | 
           | Do I need a warning label that cereal (plenty of them) are
           | just sugar treats? I don't clearly plenty others do.
        
       | jen20 wrote:
       | With a bit of timing, this will implode in time for Re:invent.
       | Last year Crypto.com had purchased a display across the entire
       | front of Resorts World, something I can't imagine was cheap!
        
       | throwaway5959 wrote:
       | If people are going to buy crypto they should just buy Bitcoin on
       | the Cash App or Coinbase (ETH as well there). Everything else is
       | likely going to zero.
        
         | curiousgal wrote:
         | > or Coinbase
         | 
         | lol if anything, FTX has established that you should not put
         | your coins _anywhere_. Which is a lesson that should have been
         | learned almost a decade ago.
        
           | throwaway5959 wrote:
           | You have to buy it somewhere. I guess you could mine your own
           | Bitcoin.
        
         | quantumwannabe wrote:
         | Monero is the only cryptocurrency I've seen that tries to
         | actually be a currency instead of an investment vehicle.
         | Unfortunately, it's still too volatile to keep any money in.
        
         | blcknight wrote:
         | Regardless of where it should be immediately placed in your own
         | wallet.
        
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