[HN Gopher] TV Tropes
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       TV Tropes
        
       Author : quantified
       Score  : 58 points
       Date   : 2022-11-13 18:53 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (tvtropes.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (tvtropes.org)
        
       | Lichtso wrote:
       | A true comedy gold mine IMO, is not page of, but the tropes of
       | https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealLife
        
       | chiph wrote:
       | Poor Chuck, got a trope named after him after disappearing
       | upstairs at the end of season 2 of _Happy Days_
       | 
       | https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChuckCunninghamS...
        
       | insin wrote:
       | Nice try, quantified, nice try
        
         | quantified wrote:
         | Next time.
        
       | zote wrote:
       | Quite like the site, it's a great source of facts and trivia
       | about various mediums(including software). I actually learnt
       | about demoscenes from this site
        
       | PrimeDirective wrote:
       | Offtopic, the cookie screen on this site is one where you have to
       | unconsent manually for each vendor
        
         | the_third_wave wrote:
         | Block all 3d-party content and you won't have any such
         | problems. The site still works as intended. Use this as the
         | default for uBlock Origin and you'll be spared many if not most
         | of these obtrusive dark-patterned "consent" things.
        
           | 9dev wrote:
           | No, that's not the point. It's simply not compliant with
           | GDPR, and they expose themselves to litigation with it.
        
       | MollyRealized wrote:
       | Years later, people begin emerging, blinking as the sunlight hits
       | their eyes. "WHAT DECADE IS THIS?!"
        
       | labrador wrote:
       | All the world's a stage,         And all the men and women merely
       | Players;         They have their exits and their entrances,
       | And one man in his time plays many parts,              - William
       | Shakespeare, As You Like It
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       | The funniest thing about TV Tropes is the realization while
       | reading them that people can be categorized in real life by
       | personality types and these roles we play are not entirely within
       | our control. We've been conditioned to play them. Funny for me as
       | an American because we've been simultaneously taught that we're
       | individuals with the freedom to be who we want to be. Why do we
       | end up playing well trodden roles? Is it because it's easier or
       | do we not have free will? [1] [2] [3]
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       | There are various techniques for waking up and breaking out of
       | patterned behavior put forth by various spiritual practices which
       | are interesting
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       | [1] Robert Sapolsky: You don't have free will,
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX7bs4uvPyc
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       | [2] Human behavior on social media is similar to collective
       | behavior in nature [today's front page],
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33582795
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       | [3] The Illusion of Free Will,
       | https://www.samharris.org/blog/the-illusion-of-free-will
        
         | xg15 wrote:
         | I found the whole "free will" discussion always somewhat
         | strange. There seems to be some underlying assumption that
         | anything short of being able to pull completely novel ideas
         | from thin air is not free will. This seems odd to me, because
         | everyone knows that our decisions and motivations are
         | influenced by all sorts of things, both intrinsic and
         | extrinsic. We are inspired by common culture and learned
         | knowledge and we are influenced by memories of past events,
         | emotional affinities which were also shaped by past events and
         | for a good parts biological drives as well.
         | 
         | Nevertheless, _within_ all those influences and based on the
         | information we have, we are able to make a decision. I would
         | still qualify that as  "free will".
        
       | jakey_bakey wrote:
       | Wow I should really start reading this Worm thing
        
         | yreg wrote:
         | Did you mean Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality?
        
       | cirgue wrote:
       | If you want to destroy someone's productivity for a day, link
       | them to tvtropes.
        
         | citizenpaul wrote:
         | Long term it saves time though. Once you start seeing how often
         | TV/Movies lean on the cliches the site deconstructs it kind of
         | ruins much of the mass produced low quality media these days.
         | So you don't have to waste time watching them anymore.
        
           | reilly3000 wrote:
           | This! I've noticed my watching habits have waned to almost no
           | mass produced (visual) media. I'm no paragon of self-control,
           | its just distasteful and not my first choice. It's all been
           | demographically motived, paced, tested, optimized formulas
           | that maximize ROI. For me the there is vibrance online that
           | doesn't exist on TV. Regrettably, a lot of that is happening
           | on TikTok right now, where authoring is so easy, all barriers
           | removed. You don't have to show your face or use your real
           | voice, the trends feel fresh and organic. There are lots of
           | new voices, and the unstructured AI topic and audience
           | clustering has helped some otherwise impossible communities
           | to emerge. Short form video is wildly engaging, especially as
           | a variety show. Sure tropes emerge and trends get tired, but
           | the sheer diversity of iterations and reactions feels like
           | some raw genesis energy.
        
         | rzzzt wrote:
         | Lampshaded in "Bert & Ernie Go to the Movies", where Big Bird
         | receives a link to the website.
        
         | CM30 wrote:
         | For a day? More like introduce them to TV Tropes and leave them
         | addicted to the site for the rest of their life. If you're the
         | kind of person who likes spotting patterns in works of fiction
         | (like myself), you'll end up checking the site for every single
         | of media you watch ever again, lol.
        
         | csdvrx wrote:
         | It may take some time to explore the site, however I believe
         | more in revealed preferences (here, the time spent) than in
         | declared preferences ("omg my work is so important!")
         | 
         | My hypothesis is understanding the social fabric we live in is
         | of the utmost importance, so maybe spending a day (or more,
         | personally I spent weeks on tvtropes!) means that we
         | unconsciously realize that, since it's more important than
         | immediate productivity.
         | 
         | To say that differently, since we live a social life and
         | interact with others, I think the long-term gains that come
         | with a better understanding of the "common mental picture"
         | allowing more fruitful interactions may be way more important
         | than writing a few more lines of code.
        
         | boomboomsubban wrote:
         | I seem to be alone, but tvtropes never does this to me. I'll
         | read something I find interesting there, but rarely do I find
         | the links intriguing enough to continue.
         | 
         | Clicking the wrong Wikipedia link can cause me to lose hours of
         | my life, but never tvtropes. I feel like I'm missing some
         | enthralling way to use the site. Maybe that's for the best.
        
           | Vivtek wrote:
           | You're not alone.
        
         | howlin wrote:
         | That this comment is in every discussion of TV tropes is a
         | weird trope in and of itself.
        
           | reilly3000 wrote:
           | Do we owe this to that Minecraft welcome message? Or is
           | fundamentally one of those self-fulfilling prophecies? .
        
           | kibwen wrote:
           | Indeed, and here's the page for it: https://tvtropes.org/pmwi
           | ki/pmwiki.php/JustForFun/TVTropesWi...
        
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