[HN Gopher] The Match Girls
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The Match Girls
Author : c-linkage
Score : 78 points
Date : 2022-11-13 17:07 UTC (5 hours ago)
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| ljf wrote:
| Wow, phossy jaw sounds horrendous
| https://bonesdontlie.wordpress.com/2016/02/10/new-morbid-ter...
|
| (cancer caused by working with white phosphorus for the matches)
| lob_it wrote:
| It sounds similar to a ceramics art teacher getting silicosis
| in Austrailia.
|
| https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-27/ceramics-teacher-sili...
|
| Technology natives do have to be concerned with carpal tunnel
| syndrome as a workplace hazard or ergonomic deficiency as well.
| croes wrote:
| Or the radium girls
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls
| themitigating wrote:
| "With the support triggering public debate, the management were
| keen to play down the reports, claiming it was "twaddle"
| propagated by socialists like Mrs Besant"
|
| I thought this was a new technique
| basilgohar wrote:
| The playbook of the powerful has almost always been the same
| since the beginning. Divide and conquer, have the different
| parties your want to control blame each other for the problems
| that are ultimately your fault, make personal attacks against
| your enemies according to the values of the people you oppress,
| and ultimately, blame your opponents for the crimes you've
| committed, to take attention away from your own atrocities.
|
| I think a good summary of a lot of this is "lie enough until
| they believe you".
| Thorentis wrote:
| DC-3 wrote:
| Go to the slums of Dhaka or Lagos today and report back how
| many beautiful people you see.
| thriftwy wrote:
| Your life actually has huge influence on your face (which is a
| "mirror of the soul"). They lived a miserable life and that's
| what you happen to see here.
| exolymph wrote:
| Nutrition is a big factor.
| aqme28 wrote:
| You're comparing what exactly? The photos in the article with
| the girls you see on Instagram? The photos in the article have
| way too much contrast and everyone's expression seems a bit
| surprised.
|
| I don't think enough generations have elapsed for any genetic
| differences. If anything, diet and lifestyle, but I think most
| likely it's fashion and makeup and comfort infront of a camera
| and cultural understandings of beauty.
| [deleted]
| zeristor wrote:
| Co-incidentally a local historical society had a talk about the
| Match Girls:
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| https://youtu.be/AnnnY7MnAK8
|
| I remember my History teacher talking about the Match Girls were
| on strike until they struck a deal; although that lame joke seems
| out of place.
| tobylane wrote:
| The factory and strike recently gained a heritage blue plaque.
| https://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/2022/07/the-match-girls-b...
| tehchromic wrote:
| Ugly business is industrialization. I suppose it's seems to be
| the most noble application of technology to avoid the techno-
| horrors of the past in the future. But there are always newer,
| greater techno-horrors emergent. In fact, one might say that
| techno-horror is a fundamental emergent property of the universe.
| INTPenis wrote:
| The only horror here is shit employers and bastard politicians
| who don't care for worker's rights.
| bus85 wrote:
| It's time to join a union HN
| zwkrt wrote:
| Any technology (physical, social, philosophical) we create has
| the ability to wreak havoc on equilibrium (natural, societal,
| or otherwise). We are fundamentally unequipped to restore
| equilibrium because that process takes the unwilling
| participation of all agents. So I think all technologies have a
| way of creating an existential threat, obviously some more than
| others.
|
| My own internal sci-fi version of the future involves us
| creating replicating but non-intelligent technology that
| outlasts us.
|
| Another free sci-fi premise while I'm on a roll is
| consciousness becoming such a good interpreter of reality (that
| sees everything so clearly) such that it evaporates. The map
| has become the territory.
|
| /confused rambling
| notgoodrobot wrote:
| Interesting ideas. Would you expand on your last point? We're
| you meaning an artificial consciousness becomes so good at
| interpreting the things around it that the consciousness
| itself evaporates?
| itsthecourier wrote:
| You mean, because by observing everything we affect it? Like
| Heisenberg's uncertainty
| lob_it wrote:
| Diversification is an interesting innovation in the 21st
| century.
|
| Getting stuck as a head-in-a-fishbowl doesn't sound that
| appealing :/
| simonbw wrote:
| Somewhat related: my favorite Disney short is called The Little
| Matchgirl. It's set to a Borodin string quartet, which I think is
| an excellent choice. If you haven't seen it, I think it's worth 6
| minutes of your time.
|
| https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ybb3s
| erk__ wrote:
| The original fairy tale by Hans Christian Andersen is also
| worth a read. In my opinion one of his best short stories.
|
| https://andersen.sdu.dk/vaerk/hersholt/TheLittleMatchGirl_e....
| tamaharbor wrote:
| It always made me cry.
| zokier wrote:
| And few decades later across the pond:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls
|
| The thing that is surprising to me is that people were so
| desperate for these horrible factory jobs for so long. I think I
| need to read up on history again to figure out what was going on
| in the agriculture side that made people flood into cities,
| making labor expendable for factories.
| maxerickson wrote:
| Mechanization.
| Shacklz wrote:
| > The thing that is surprising to me is that people were so
| desperate for these horrible factory jobs for so long
|
| We folks on HN (well, anyone who's even remotely related to
| tech) just tend to forget how good we have it. You might want
| to look up working conditions in meat plants, healthcare,
| warehouses, construction... in today's day and age.
|
| Sure, it's not as bad as painting with Radium (although, back
| then they did not know how bad it is), the jobs might not be an
| immediate health hazard, but there are still plenty of people
| out there working under miserable conditions for terrible
| wages.
| robjwells wrote:
| Louise Raw wrote a book about the Bryant and May matchwomen and
| their 1888 strike, Striking a Light, which I recommend:
| https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/striking-a-light-9781441114266...
| welder wrote:
| OP must have watched the Enola Holmes 2 movie on Netflix... the
| case she solves is all about match girls.
|
| https://www.cbr.com/enola-holmes-2-sarah-chapman-true-story/
| Mikeb85 wrote:
| Funny timing, literally watching it right now.
| colechristensen wrote:
| It just came out I think so not much of a coincidence :)
| Josh5 wrote:
| ...based on this true story.
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