[HN Gopher] Affinity 2
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Affinity 2
Author : synthmeat
Score : 349 points
Date : 2022-11-09 12:05 UTC (10 hours ago)
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| vladstudio wrote:
| I've been Photoshop user since, hmm, 2000? Gave up couple of
| years ago, and spent some time comparing Affinity Designer and
| Pixelmator Pro. For me personally, Pixelmator won, and it's been
| my editor of choice:
|
| https://www.pixelmator.com/pro/
| regular wrote:
| hoistbypetard wrote:
| How did it come down to those two? I'd have expected Affinity
| Photo to be more comparable to Pixelmator. Isn't Designer more
| similar to Sketch?
| vladstudio wrote:
| I actually use Pixelmator Pro vector tools a lot, for
| illustrating, not photo editing - they are quite basic
| (comparing to Illustrator) but for my specific needs it's
| quite enough.
| CharlesW wrote:
| Yes, Affinity Designer is a vector design tool, like
| Illustrator. One would want to compare Affinity Photo to
| Pixelmator (which is also very good).
| mryingster wrote:
| Interesting. I had the opposite outcome. I didn't like how
| Pixelmator reinvented the wheel as far as interface goes. I
| felt like Affinity Photo was a much better lateral transition
| from Photoshop for my needs. I bought both though mostly to
| support them. I'm glad we have options that aren't Adobe. I
| just can't abide the idea of licensing software in perpetuity.
| jiveturkey wrote:
| I've been wishing for a long time that they would charge more
| money -- so as to fund development of more features. Hopefully
| this is that! I'm optimistic but only slightly, since the banner
| feature is "completely redesigned UI".
|
| The UI was fine.
| tommica wrote:
| Exciting - might really want to get these!
| kowlo wrote:
| Spent PS116 through the App Store on version 1 of this software
| not long ago and now I can't upgrade, but instead, have to buy it
| all again at a "discount". Downloading my versions means looking
| through the purchase history too.
|
| Not happy with that - would advise against it.
| lidavidm wrote:
| Hmm, I bought it about...a couple weeks ago? And they sent me
| an email with two discount codes: a free copy of Affinity Photo
| 2, and a heavy discount on the all-apps-all-platforms license.
| bj-rn wrote:
| Bought it exactly one month ago (all apps). No discount. Feel
| kind of bummed.
| dangoor wrote:
| I suspect this move away from the App Store is probably because
| the App Store _still_ doesn't have a reasonable way to do
| upgrade pricing. Affinity v3 (whenever that comes out) would be
| able to offer specific upgrade pricing because they've left the
| App Store.
|
| Edit to add link from another comment:
| https://twitter.com/affinitybyserif/status/15903262690314649...
|
| Serif actually said that this is specifically what happened
| mrtksn wrote:
| Similar situation(bought Designer V1 about a year ago, directly
| from them) but I'm not angry. It makes complete sense from
| their perspective and makes sense for me too.
|
| I completely agree that continued work needs to be payed and I
| don't expect to buy a software once and receive updates for it
| forever. If I was using it in a professional capacity all the
| time, I would have preferred a cheaper monthly subscription but
| because I'm using it mostly now and then, pay for the V1 and
| use it forever and pay again if I would like the newer version
| works very well for me.
| jug wrote:
| Contact them first and explain your situation to be sure.
| Tao3300 wrote:
| Depending on what "not long ago" means, that's pretty
| unfortunate timing. You should reach out to them. They've been
| pushing updates and features for V1 for a long time and have an
| established track record for being a company that isn't nickel-
| and-diming people. The line does have to be drawn somewhere
| though. Long term users have known this was coming, but I can
| see how the short/mid term user might feel pinched.
| xPaw wrote:
| I purchased it directly from their site, and there is no
| upgrade option either.
| dr_faustus wrote:
| Serif's Affinity suite has probably the greatest value for money
| in the whole software industry. I mean 119 bucks ONE-TIME for
| three pretty comprehensive graphics apps which are polished and
| get constant updates is very hard to beat.
|
| For people making their living with graphical work (designers,
| photographers, etc.) Adobe is probably still the way to go (even
| if just to keep using the muscle memory). However for the many
| people who only need something like Photoshop or InDesign a
| couple of times a year, Affinity is just great.
| Slow_Hand wrote:
| Seconded.
|
| As an infrequent image editor/designer/publisher I'm just
| casual enough that there is no way to justify an Adobe
| subscription (even if I'd want to have one).
|
| Affinity occupy a wonderful niche for people like me in that
| they provide comprehensive, professional, and bullshit-free
| software options. It's an incredible value for this day and age
| and I love using their software. I have zero complaints about
| the company or their products.
|
| Upgrading when they have a release like this is a no-brainer.
| Even if I don't really need the upgrade I'm eager to support
| them for doing such a fine job.
| reaperducer wrote:
| In addition to it not being a subscription, I also love this
| bit from the App Store's Privacy section: Data
| Not Collected The developer does not collect any data
| from this app.
|
| After I post this, I'm off to buy the desktop and iPad
| versions.
|
| I tried to buy a certain type of simple app a couple of weeks
| ago, and while there were dozens of options available, not one
| didn't Hoover up everything it could about me.
|
| Really? You need to know my name, location, and track me across
| apps for a card game? No sale.
|
| Edit: Purchased. Thanks, Affinity. Go stick your head in a pig,
| Adobe.
| lynndotpy wrote:
| Just so you know, that's not true. After all, they need to
| collect your email to login for the perpetual license. At the
| very least, this needs a "Data Linked To You - Contact Info"
| card.
|
| Generally speaking, 'App Privacy' cards are lies. Apple does
| not check them, you need to do it yourself. Here is the
| Privacy Policy: https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/privacy/
|
| In the EULA (quoted from Affinity Photo 2 for MacOS), you
| further agree to, among other terms:
|
| > *Consent to Use of Data* > > a. 16. You agree that Serif
| and its affiliates may use any information you give to use as
| part of product support and other services provided to you,
| if any, related to Serif Software solely to improve products
| or to provide customised services or technologies to you and
| will not disclose this information in a form that personally
| identifies you.
| drcongo wrote:
| The Universal Licence gets you all three apps on all
| platforms now. Incredible deal.
| drcongo wrote:
| Amazingly there's people moaning at them about the price in
| their Twitter announcement.
| netr0ute wrote:
| $119 is only affordable if you're got a high-income job,
| which billions of people on planet Earth don't.
| melling wrote:
| There's always GIMP, Krita, and Inkscape. Imagine if a few
| million of those billion people worked on them.
|
| I get that people can't because they have to earn a living,
| but so do software developers.
| drcongo wrote:
| These are pro level apps. Honestly can't think of a single
| bundle of 3 pro level apps that you can license on Windows,
| iPad and Mac for anywhere near that price.
| innocenat wrote:
| I bought all 3 apps at 50% discount earlier this year. I
| paid 9,900 yen for it. The new universal license cost
| 15,800 yen. That's 50% price increase for me. I don't
| need apps for other platforms.
|
| I can afford it, and I will probably buy it. But I can't
| help but compared to what I paid not even a year ago.
| technothrasher wrote:
| I just bought photo a month ago at $50 and was annoyed at
| first that suddenly I have to pay more if I want the
| latest version, but then at $100 and I get a universal
| license to all three products, I'm still way ahead of
| having an Adobe subscription.
| drcongo wrote:
| If you only bought a month ago, drop them a line, there's
| a good chance they'll discount further for you.
| michaelmrose wrote:
| Open source software like Gimp and Linux are free and can
| be run on your $50 single board computer instead of paying
| $500 for a laptop that requires a $139 OS license and a
| $119 software license for Affinity.
| hrbf wrote:
| While it's certainly nice that those options exist, they
| are also entirely unsuitable for any kind of professional
| work. I assume the target user you're thinking of is
| looking to do some occasional, light-weight editing. And
| even this user will be frustrated with the irritating UI
| and workflow of software like (and in particular) The
| Gimp.
|
| For me, it's close to unusable -- and I am someone whose
| first computer was a TI44/4A. I'm a die-hard terminal
| shell user. Even Adobe Illustrator didn't really click
| for me. The Affinity suite made immediate sense.
|
| There's value in usability.
| alpaca128 wrote:
| The number of people who cannot afford this but also own
| the required hardware and need the full package of all
| those licenses is probably not high.
| GlacierFox wrote:
| $119 perpetual is an insanely good price for three
| absolutely fantastic applications. What are you smoking?
| What's a fair price to you? $10?
|
| On one side you've got people complaining about these anti-
| consumer software subscriptions from the likes of adobe.
| Then on the other side you've got people like yourself that
| are for some reason complaining that there's still a
| company offering fantastic software on par with Illustrator
| for a fantastic perpetual price.
|
| Affinity Designer is PS35 right now. That's insane.
|
| The mind boggles.
| netr0ute wrote:
| You haven't been to poorer countries where the equivalent
| of $10 is a lot, so good luck getting a market for $119
| software there.
| jevgeni wrote:
| Cynically: why would one want a market there then?
| hoistbypetard wrote:
| If one could sell software there in such a way that only
| people in that market could buy it at that price, the
| answer is obvious... software has effectively zero
| marginal cost per copy.
|
| So if you could practically limit your market at a
| specified price in such a way that that offer doesn't
| spread to other markets, then every copy you sell in such
| places is still beneficial to you.
|
| There are less cynical answers to the question, but you
| asked cynically.
| michaelmrose wrote:
| Well keeping on the cynical train. Parts of the world
| experiencing desperate poverty often not so
| coincidentally experience substantial inequality with the
| folks needing a professional tool not being so different
| economically from better off areas. If 90% of your market
| has no problem paying why would you not charge full
| price?
|
| Next how do you keep Jane in Seattle and Bob in Houston
| from buying the poor market version? You can't really
| restrict it by language or locale people use all sorts of
| languages/settings in different parts of the world.
| Desktop computers don't have location and people could
| trivially block the app from having access to location
| AND network data. You don't want your offline software
| failing for lack of phoning home.
|
| An argument could be made that Jane and Bob could well
| pirate it too but friction matters. Lots of folks can
| figure out how to pirate but fewer of them will actually
| do it if they have to visit the skeevier corners of the
| net, risk malware, and feel like a criminal instead of
| clicking on a different locale on your website and feel
| like they are cleverly getting a good deal. One weird
| trick to make a substantial portion of your revenue go
| away.
|
| I would say that compared to software like Adobe that
| costs $600 a year or $3000 over a 5 year horizon it's
| already very inclusive.
| sarlalian wrote:
| How about a non-cynical answer. Software does not have
| effectively zero marginal cost per copy. It does have
| zero manufacturing cost per copy, however support is
| quite an expensive on-going cost. When you have a
| presence in multiple markets, you need localized support
| for different languages, and that is even more expensive.
| When you have different costs in different markets, you
| encourage users in more expensive markets to try and game
| the system, to minimize their costs. This sets up a
| potentially adversarial relationship with your users, and
| is mostly non-productive.
|
| In the end this is a professional software suite, and
| running a business has some fixed costs. By comparison,
| Adobe's suite would cost much more per year.
| GlacierFox wrote:
| I've been to Cambodia and Mozambique. I'm not sure what
| the point is you're trying to make.
| drcongo wrote:
| The same price gets you Creative Cloud for 2 months. What
| exactly is the point you think you're making? Because
| people earn different amounts in different countries is
| not a revelation to anybody here, nor to Serif.
| dandellion wrote:
| The poorer countries where the equivalent of $10 is a lot
| are probably not part of the market anyway, considering
| that having a computer is a prerequisite to benefitting
| from this software. Anyone who can save enough for a
| computer can probably save $119, even if that's not cheap
| by any means.
| achow wrote:
| $119 for getting 'professional software' which
| potentially can add $119/month to the household income.
|
| These are not selfie correction software.
| Tao3300 wrote:
| In those circumstances, you're not even going to be able
| to afford the hardware to run it. There's no point to be
| made along this line.
| mirzap wrote:
| They must have PPP enabled, so price depends on the
| country. I see "regular price" as 169.99$, but now on
| sale 40off for $99. It really is great value for the
| money. I hope they stay on this path. I don't mind paying
| for the upgrades every couple of years.
| jscheel wrote:
| Yes, and I'm one of them. I'm not moaning at them about the
| price, but I think it's fair to consider what they are
| actually saying. They are telling users that v1 is now
| completely unsupported. That means, if you bought v1 last
| week, you cannot expect any compatibility support moving
| forward. The bugs that already exist? Those aren't getting
| taken care of either. People like to point out that they've
| owned Affinity products for a long time, and therefore have
| gotten their value out of them. I've owned all of the
| Affinity products for quite a while, so I've gotten plenty of
| value from them. I also have a (quite) expensive Adobe
| subscription. But at the end of the day, Affinity was
| marketed as the answer to subscription bloat. They aren't the
| first company to have to walk that back a bit with major
| version releases. They should have a deprecation plan in
| place for gradually winding down v1. Stopping all new
| features but still releasing compatibility and security fixes
| is incredibly common in software when major versions change.
| Instead, their answer is to cease all development an support
| immediately.
| SanjayMehta wrote:
| People on Twitter are only happy when they're unhappy.
| jjtheblunt wrote:
| I wonder if people forget the joke in Twitter's name, that
| those writing are "twits".
|
| You just reminded me of it.
| kmeisthax wrote:
| Is $100 for a universal suite license even that much of a
| price hike? Affinity v1 was $50 a pop with no universal
| license option - as in, you had to buy each platform's port
| of the app separately. I happen to have one foot in every
| tech ecosystem and bought all three apps, so I wound up
| spending more on Affinity v1 than I will on v2's universal
| license.
|
| And, of course, it's still _hella cheap_ compared to
| subscription-licensing Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign
| over the _seven years of updates_ you got on Affinity v1.
| wlesieutre wrote:
| Sales for v1 at $25 were pretty common, but even then if
| you want two pieces of software on two platforms that's
| $100 already.
| achow wrote:
| I have developed new muscles with dedication and effort, I had
| Adobe logo in front of me all the while, I was falling down and
| crying with pain but one look at Adobe logo would make me get
| up and get going with newly found vigor - just to kick Adobe's
| bucket and to embrace loving comfort of Affinity Suite.
|
| Nah.. it was pretty easy to jump. Life is beautiful.
| jdcarter wrote:
| I used Photoshop and Illustrator for years and years (going
| back to 1990's) and switched to Affinity about 2 years ago.
| There's a lot of little details that are different--say, when
| you grab a resize handle, does aspect ratio stay locked or do
| you have to hold down shift?--but I found that it wasn't
| tough to retrain. Most things are where you'd expect. It's
| certainly not like Gimp or Inkscape, where absolutely
| everything is different and it feels impossible to get
| anything done.
| amatheus wrote:
| And that includes all platforms (Mac, iPad and Windows). Really
| great value.
| samtp wrote:
| Not really all platforms is it though. Linux not supported at
| all
| mroche wrote:
| That's not the context of the GP's statement. They're
| referring to the Universal License being offered by Serif,
| which provides you a "buy once use anywhere" on all of
| _their_ supported platforms, not that they support all
| platforms.
|
| As a Linux user myself and a former (and upcoming again)
| studio sysadmin, it's disappointing Serif doesn't offer
| native Linux support. But let's not twist the discussion
| here.
| vladvasiliu wrote:
| All _supported_ platforms, as in you don 't have to pay a
| separate license fee to run it on one of the other
| platforms they support.
|
| Yeah, I'm not happy having to keep a copy of Windows for
| graphics software either, but that's a different issue. If
| you only have Linux or some toaster running NetBSD, then
| it's pretty simple: don't buy it.
| herval wrote:
| Just some quick feedback, tioli - I read most of the page and had
| no idea what this is, before going back to the top and reading
| the small grayed text
| ngrilly wrote:
| I've been using Affinity Designer 1 and that's a great product!
| Glad to see version 2 coming.
| laurieg wrote:
| I'd love to switch to Affinity from Adobe Illustrator, but
| there's one feature I just can't live without:
|
| In illustrator you can make a dashed line that nicely lines up
| with the corners of a square (putting one dash in each corner).
| Nothing else seems to handle this case. [1]
|
| I use Illustrator to make stitching patterns and lining up the
| corners in this way is absolutely essential, otherwise the
| stitches come out looking lopsided.
|
| [1]
| https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/145760-how...
| [deleted]
| azalemeth wrote:
| The other thing I really miss is the simple artboard tool to
| effectively crop pdfs. Designer does have this, but it's not
| quite as "nice", iirc.
| regular wrote:
| johnymontana wrote:
| Is anyone using Affinity for cartography? I'm currently using
| ArcGIS --> Illustrator workflow but am curious if a QGIS -->
| Affinity workflow is feasible.
| c0nsumer wrote:
| So, I've been using Illustrator for years with an OSM ->
| Illustrator workflow where I start with OSM XML, feed it to
| osm2ai.pl, and then wholly style it by hand. It's... fine...
| but Illustrator's cost is getting to me.
|
| I gave QGIS -> Affinity a cursory look the other day and had no
| problem taking my results from an Overpass query and exporting
| it from QGIS as SVG and bringing it into Affinity. So, that
| gave me a ton of hope.
|
| The opening of Illustrator files in Affinity Designer kinda
| sucks (my dashed paths for trails come in as tons of different
| objects, like it's actually only bringing in the PDF preview)
| but if I start anew on some of the maps I think it'll be fine.
|
| I just bought the 2.0 package mentioned here and the next map I
| do I'll be doing in Affinity Designer to see how it goes.
| Fingers crossed!
| johnymontana wrote:
| Thanks for sharing. I wasn't aware of osm2ai - looks helpful!
|
| I'm starting a new project this week and will test out the
| QGIS -> Affinity workflow and write up any findings.
| yosef123 wrote:
| Great value indeed
| kmfrk wrote:
| As someone who doesn't have the latest and greatest, can anyone
| figure out what the support cut-off is for iPads?
|
| EDIT: Found the app page, and it states "Requires iPadOS 15.0 or
| later."
|
| https://apps.apple.com/app/affinity-designer-2-for-ipad/id16...
|
| Assume that means everything that runs the OS?
| Kelteseth wrote:
| I pretty much use Affinity Designer every day since their Windows
| launch (2017?) . This saved me hundreds of euros or more in
| comparison to Photoshop. I will 100% buy this!
| open-source-ux wrote:
| If you have the version 1 of the Affinty apps, here's a list of
| the new v2 features:
|
| _What 's new_: https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/whats-new/
|
| FAQ for version 2 (including answers for v1 users):
| https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/affinity-2-faq/
| AuryGlenz wrote:
| I don't know why Photoshop doesn't have built in masking tools
| like they now have. I shouldn't have to use an extension so
| (easily) make luminosity or color masks.
| geenat wrote:
| Wow, first class JPEG XL support! :)
|
| Google / Chromium developers, please take note!
| vetinari wrote:
| But still no AVIF support, which is supported by Google /
| Chromium.
| geenat wrote:
| Would be very nice to have both! It's about time we got
| better image formats.
|
| That said, unfortunately AVIF is not a substitute for JPEG
| XL...
|
| 1. AVIF has an order of magnitude slower saving / encoding
| speed vs JPEG XL.
|
| 2. AVIF in "lossless" mode tends to be bigger than PNG- and
| it isn't truly lossless, just best effort (based on the AV1
| video format).
|
| 3. JPEG XL supports orders of magnitude higher resolution,
| bit depth, and is an actual replacement for lossless PNG.
| timeon wrote:
| DWG/DXF import is what I was missing from Illustrator.
| c0nsumer wrote:
| I use two Adobe apps routinely:
|
| - Illustrator (for making PDF maps from OSM data). - Lightroom.
|
| It'll take a bit of work to move my workflow to Affinity, but I
| think I've got a solid plan for that. (No, Affinity Designer does
| not open AIs properly... It does funky things with lines.)
|
| But, I can't find a solid replacement for Lightroom. All I need
| is basic DAM (digital asset management) and crop/rotate/color.
| Can any of you suggest a GOOD alternative? Something that can
| import my library from Lightroom Classic would be ideal, but I
| can work around it if not. I'm very much willing to pay, and
| would prefer well-supported closed-source to OSS.
| belthesar wrote:
| I know folks are going to recommend RawTherapee and Darktable,
| and those are some admirable projects, but I also know that a
| lot of long-time Lightroom users bounce off of them. I'd still
| encourage you to give them a try, but also if you're willing to
| catalog what things are missing and provide feedback to those
| teams. Even better if you're willing and able to help make the
| change you want to see in OSS, but additional reinforcement on
| the things that are misses currently in their offerings will
| help strengthen those projects.
| SanjayMehta wrote:
| Check out dxo.com - recommended to me by a professional
| photographer.
|
| I'm stuck on LR 5 myself as I'm too lazy to move my library.
| darekkay wrote:
| > All I need is basic DAM (digital asset management) and
| crop/rotate/color. Can any of you suggest a GOOD alternative?
|
| Check out digikam. I'm using it as DAM only and Affinity Photo
| for RAW development and image manipulation (but digikam can
| handle that as well).
| mr_tristan wrote:
| I've been using digiKam in a similar way, where Affinity
| Photo is where I do manipulation, and digiKam for
| organization. It's been working well enough, though, I am
| very much an amateur hobbyist.
| CharlesW wrote:
| > _(No, Affinity Designer does not open AIs properly... It does
| funky things with lines.)_
|
| I hope you'll report that! They seem to be pretty on top of
| fixing interop issues.
|
| > _Can any of you suggest a GOOD alternative?_
|
| If you need traditional DAM you'll want to look elsewhere, but
| if you're macOS-based I finally landed on Apple Photos with its
| extensions ecosystem (which includes software from Affinity,
| ON1, etc.). It also works great with RAW Power1 -- by Nik
| Bhatt, who previously led Aperture and iPhoto development at
| Apple -- which is itself looking more and more like a complete
| Lightroom replacement.
|
| 1 https://www.gentlemencoders.com/raw-power-for-
| macos/index.ht...
| c0nsumer wrote:
| Huh... I am on macOS and I never even considered Apple
| Photos. Thank you, I'll give that a look. This could work out
| very well. Thanks!
| Kye wrote:
| This is probably next on their list. I know they were at least
| thinking about one the last time I saw someone ask about it.
| datalopers wrote:
| darktable
| t0bia_s wrote:
| Not a chance if you need it for professional editing. No
| clone tools, no camera profiles, probably lack of lens
| correction profiles as well. UI is prehistoric. RawTherapee
| is little bit less nerdy than darktable but still not
| suitable for serious photography work.
| virtualritz wrote:
| TLDR; lies.
|
| Kindly substantiate your claims.
|
| DT has a clone tool. It's part of the retouch tool.[1]
| Which is very powerful and allows way more than just
| cloning. It is also non-destructive, like anything in DT.
|
| DT has camera profiles, new cameras get added regularly.
|
| You can also create them yourself if you have access to a
| color checker using a built-in tool.[2]
|
| DT has tons of lens correction profiles. Basically anything
| you find in lensfun.
|
| If your lens is missing, lensfun has a service where you
| send images and they send you the calibration data back and
| add it to to their database.[3]
|
| I shoot (often exotic) manual glass most of the time.
|
| If someone tells me DT is lacking in this regard it's a
| good indicator for me they have no clue what they are
| talking about or never used the app seriously.
|
| UI: it could see improvement in terms of parameter exposure
| (no novice/simple mode) and ranges (some sliders go from
| 0..1, others from 0..100%) but otherwise?
|
| What in the UI is prehistoric?
|
| The catalog part of DT is also great. i.e. when your
| catalog is on a slow network or cloud drive DT can
| automatically cache RAWs locally and send back the XMPs
| with the edits only.
|
| Caveat: I regularly get paid for photography work (it's not
| fulltime but give I worked professionally in blockbuster
| VFX for two decades I think I qualify).
|
| I do all my processing in DT. If I have to do compositing
| work beyond that I export to Fusion.
|
| [1] https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/3.8/en/module-
| referenc...
|
| [2] https://pixls.us/articles/profiling-a-camera-with-
| darktable-...
|
| [3] https://wilson.bronger.org/calibration
| palotasb wrote:
| I'll substantiate regarding UI: On a Mac it has no items
| in the menu bar. The default cursor is changed to a low-
| resolution raster image instead of the default OS cursor.
| The image metadata pop-ups keep appearing even though
| darktable is in the background and I'm typing in a
| textbox in my browser. Something's really off with the UI
| toolkit they rely on.
|
| I agree with the GP that the UI makes it practically
| unusable. Prehistoric, and I'd be surprised if this can
| be used by anyone as-is. I'd take a look at the features,
| but while it's importing my catalog I can't open any
| subfolders to look at images already imported. Once I
| click open my top-level Pictures folder, it closes it
| again after half a second.
| palotasb wrote:
| To be fair, this was using Darktable 3.6 (I had to open
| /Applications/darktable.app/Contents/info.plist to check
| as there is no About menu). Updating to the current
| latest 4.0.1.1_arm64 at least the metadata popup issue is
| mostly, but not 100%, fixed, and I could navigate through
| my catalog.
|
| Adding: Even though my Fujifilm X-T4 is listed as
| supported on https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-
| support/, and the preview images in grid mode appear,
| opening a single image displays two visually overlapping
| error messages about not being able to open the raw file.
| (One message is about switching to lighttable, the other
| about not being able to read white balance info. The
| image is not displayed.)
| michaelmrose wrote:
| Your post is full of great information but didn't need
| the heading. Odds are really good that the poster you are
| replying to isn't actually lying. Instead they just
| aren't as familiar with DT as you are. You could have
| imparted the same information beginning with an opening
| that educated the user instead of insisting they were
| lying and a demand for proof.
|
| Firstly calling someone a liar basically shuts down all
| discussion in most cases and secondly after you have
| provided the proof you needn't demand it of them. You can
| instead wait for them to absorb the data you have
| provided.
|
| Example:
|
| > Darktable in fact has the features you mentioned and
| more. I enjoy using it for professional work myself so
| let me tell you a little bit about the features that make
| it competitive.
|
| This would refute the position without directly engaging
| in negativity which is more likely to be read especially
| by poster but I think we are all a bit tired of people
| calling each other liars on the internet at this point.
| stonogo wrote:
| Shutting down the discussion should be the priority when
| one participant is just confidently asserting
| misinformation. Their motivations for doing so are not of
| interest.
| orbital-decay wrote:
| Huh? It has all that. UI is optimized for hardware
| controllers and customization, and I think if you value
| workflow and features you can tolerate your dog barking at
| your app. I personally observed darktable being used in a
| mid-to-large studio along with C1. I think the weakness of
| darktable in production is mainly speed and highlight
| restoration, not anything of what you said. And possibly
| its filmic module which confuses a lot of people.
| (subjective, many swear by it; you can use classic curves
| instead)
|
| RawTherapee being less nerdy is also bizarre to hear, since
| it exposes much more technical details at once, without
| offering a definite workflow.
| regular wrote:
| highhedgehog wrote:
| Maybe RawTherapee?
| AuryGlenz wrote:
| CaptureOne. Many of us pros use it for a reason. They have both
| a subscription option and a one time fee.
| awill wrote:
| How does purchasing work? How can you purchase from Affinity
| directly, and get the iPad version. How are they getting around
| Apple's restrictions?
| eye_street wrote:
| After using Adobe stuff for many years, my stubbornness, with
| regards to subscriptions and cloud things, led me to buy the
| various bits of desktop Affinity software. I think they were only
| about PS30 a piece, which isn't bad, but you really aren't buying
| Photoshop or Illustrator. Designer is a bit of a kludge, and V1
| did seem like a work-in-progress. I was hoping a knife tool would
| be added before we got to V2.
|
| There are techniques I'd been using for a long time, complicated
| little tasks with, on the face of it, simple results, that I
| wasn't able to reproduce in AD without a lot of thinking and
| farting around. For better or worse, this pushed me to change
| things up and explore other methods, and now I've learnt how to
| achieve things with programming, whether that's Processing or
| little things for Blender.
|
| I know people operating businesses who've just stuck with an old
| computer running an old non-subscription version of the Adobe
| software they depend on. They don't really need anything from
| modern versions (some have been doing things since the '70s,
| adding computers to the mix in the '90s, and their techniques
| have not really changed all that much), and its Affinity kinda-
| equivalent is missing some little thing.
|
| For me, just looking at the changes, V2 isn't terribly
| compelling. There are things I was doing ages ago in Illustrator
| that don't seem to be in Designer v2, like vector pattern
| swatches. Once you really get going with it, the absence of
| features or rough edges (see post in this thread about dashed
| borders) will leave you frustrated.
|
| All that said, good on them for creating this affordable
| software, with no subscription.
| CharlesW wrote:
| Illustrator is the undefeated champ, and I've loved it deeply
| since 1987. You're right that nothing can replace it at the
| high-end. For that audience, a $20/month subscription for
| Illustrator or an all-apps subscription is a given.
|
| Still, this Affinity upgrade is an insta-upgrade for me. On a
| practical level, I'm lucky enough to be able to "vote with my
| dollars" to support small developers and non-subscription
| software. From a creative perspective, sometimes it's helpful
| (or just fun!) to work with different tools.
| regular wrote:
| microflash wrote:
| I have used Affinity products for years so this was a no-brainer
| buy. It is a pity though that V2 products can't be activated
| offline; they require you to login with your account to activate.
| boomskats wrote:
| I've just bought this without even looking at what's new or
| different. That's how much I love their software.
|
| Hopefully the performance in isometric grid mode is better in v2.
| My only issue with v1.
| dineshk78 wrote:
| Same, just commenting to share my love for Affinity! Such a
| breath of fresh air compared to anti consumer Adobe.
| hoistbypetard wrote:
| I did too. I had v1 licenses for Photo and Designer on my
| Windows laptop and on iPad. I've recently switched my daily
| driver to Mac, and was planning to get Mac licenses for those,
| but was holding out for a Black Friday/Cyber Monday sale. This
| was a no-brainer for me.
|
| (I'm not a professional user of these... but I find them super
| useful during game jams or while putting together ideas for web
| things.)
| can16358p wrote:
| Last time I used Affinity Photo years ago it was well behind
| Photoshop especially in RAW editing.
|
| Has it come to somewhere comparable? I really want to go Affinity
| instead of paying Adobe every month but I want something at least
| capable as Photoshop and Camera Raw. I heavily do
| astrophotography/night photo editing and Affinity was just not
| good enough. But it was years ago.
|
| Any recommendations from anyone who used both recently?
| Tao3300 wrote:
| Can't you download the latest version of the one you own and
| see?
| pier25 wrote:
| Interesting Affinity has removed their products from the Mac App
| store and only selling through their website now.
| uxcolumbo wrote:
| No subscription is a big deal. Been using Affinity tools since
| Adobe introduced their cloud bloatware and subscription model.
|
| I'm praying to the design gods that Adobe won't acquire Affinity
| - surely this must eat into their revenue.
| beingflo wrote:
| Is my understanding correct that Affinity Photo doesn't have any
| photo management capability? If you want to edit a series of
| images similarly, do you create a custom preset that you then
| apply to the other images and just reopen the editor for every
| image?
| moelf wrote:
| you're right and it's a pain point for YEARS
|
| https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/42372-file...
| mortenjorck wrote:
| It's great to see Serif finally offering a paid upgrade for the
| Affinity suite. Serif is a tiny company, and their size versus
| the incredible ambition of their products has resulted in some
| often frustratingly slow development ever since the first release
| of Affinity Designer back in 2014.
|
| Even in the long-awaited V2, there are still popular features
| Adobe Illustrator had twenty years ago that Affinity has yet to
| offer an alternative to, such as vector pattern brushes, auto-
| trace, and even shape blends, something Illustrator has had for
| closer to 30 years. I really hope the infusion of cash from this
| new release allows them to staff up and further realize the
| potential of this excellent alternative to the Adobe hegemony.
| dreamyfigment wrote:
| I'm very tempted to get Affinity 2 for that price but lately I've
| found that most Mac apps tend to release major versions weirdly
| often and in that case there's not a lot of difference between
| having yearly subscription and paying to update once a year.
| spiderice wrote:
| The difference would be the ability to stop paying at any point
| and keep the software you bought. I thought that was the whole
| point of buying software outright as opposed to subscriptions.
| Not paying developers less for ongoing development.
| oliwarner wrote:
| Serif have always delivered great value. I remember netting last-
| version packs in the 90s with colossal clipart libraries.
|
| Just wish they did Linux versions.
| npigrounet wrote:
| corry wrote:
| Has anyone switched to Affinity Designer from Illustrator for
| vector work (logos, svg, icons, etc) and liked it? I've been
| avoiding paying for Illustrator given the extreme monthly cost
| for my use-case, but found Inkspace and other alternatives pretty
| lacking. I pay for Photoshop since I'm so comfortable with it,
| but can't justify the extra $$$ to add Illustrator given I'd use
| it a handful of times a month max.
| latexr wrote:
| > Has anyone switched to Affinity Designer from Illustrator for
| vector work (logos, svg, icons, etc) and liked it?
|
| I found v1 frustrating. They've been touting their "precision"
| from the get go, but in my experience it was _anything but_
| precise. And I mean going into the transform panel, inserting
| exact values by hand, and then the software moves it 0.1 points
| to the right.
|
| Making separate shapes then connecting them was also a fool's
| errand. When it works at all, it often leaves two connected
| points in the same location, as opposed to merging them. Even
| if you insert their locations manually and exactly. I've wasted
| many many hours due to their imprecision.
|
| With all that out of the way, I'm trialing v2 and am cautiously
| optimistic. I haven't been able to trigger any of the bugs so
| far. Doesn't mean they're not there, but maybe they're fixed.
| corry wrote:
| Thanks! I'll give it a try. V1 sounds frustrating since those
| use-cases are precisely what I do with Illustrator lol.
| marban wrote:
| So I bought all V1s back then and now they're gone from the Mac
| App Store. I see.
|
| Edit: Got it, have to download it from the purchase history
| (which was 2014), not the offical now-gone link.
| dkdbejwi383 wrote:
| Apple is at least partly to blame here for stubbornly refusing
| to add paid upgrades to the app stores, despite developers
| calling for it for years.
| danieldk wrote:
| And if taking 30% wasn't enough of an offense, they are now
| also stuffing search results of people looking for Affinity
| products with all kinds of ad crap. I can fully understand
| why they yanked their products from the Mac App Store and
| will happily purchase the suite directly from them.
| marban wrote:
| Yes but devs usually leave the old version on the MAS and
| don't remove it entirely.
| g_p wrote:
| The risk here would presumably be people unwittingly
| purchasing an old version?
|
| Neither way seems ideal though. I've seen some devs create
| a bundle as a way to do upgrade prices, but that's not
| perfect either.
| brailsafe wrote:
| Can you not download them from your purchases tab?
| [deleted]
| universenz wrote:
| Also it appears the new v2 licensing approach does not support
| Family Purchases, which is a step backward in my view.
| kiawe_fire wrote:
| This license, and alternatively the JetBrains licenses, are
| awesome. I will always try to support them!
|
| Being given the freedom to install this on whatever computers I
| own, regardless of OS*, for one very reasonable fee, is amazing
| compared to the standard guard of "only one OS and only x
| computers", or worse, "subscription based and you lose it all if
| you stop subscribing".
|
| I've been living in Linux using GIMP for what I've needed, but
| I'm definitely buying and supporting this for when I need a
| little more than GIMP.
|
| * sans Linux in this case, sadly
| nailer wrote:
| Affinity is great but... weird.
|
| - Designer and Photo keep asking me to download and install a new
| version manually every time I open it, rather than just taking
| care of their own updates.
|
| - Pasting if there's no document open doesn't work. You have to
| do 'new from clipboard'.
| ketzu wrote:
| > Designer and Photo keep asking me to download and install a
| new version manually every time I open it, rather than just
| taking care of their own updates.
|
| It's super annoying to upgrade, too. If they added an auto
| updater I would instantly buy v2. But right now I don't really
| see a reason yet.
| yashg wrote:
| I had shifted to Affinity photo from Photoshop few years ago. I
| need to use it once in a while so Affinity photo does the job for
| me. It has its own quirks but I can live with them. There is
| still no real alternative for Lightroom unfortunately for bulk
| RAW photo processing.
| fetzu wrote:
| There was talk of them working on a DAM solution a few years
| ago, sadly this never materialized. I would love to be able to
| move on from Adobe completely, but I still haven't find the
| right replacement for Lightroom..
| chillfox wrote:
| What's Capture One or DxO missing to replace Lightroom?
| yashg wrote:
| Capture One is expensive. I need to use it a few times a
| year. Didn't know about DxO PhotoLab, will check it out.
| max51 wrote:
| Last time I tried to completely switch to Capture One, there
| were major features missing. I currently use both because
| there are things that Capture One does a lot better than
| Lightroom (eg. skin tones, tethered shooting)
|
| The biggest one for me is the fact that you can't manually
| remove chromatic aberration. If your lens is not in their
| database with a profile, you can't do it at all. The database
| is also very small; if you are using anything old or with no
| electronic, it's likely not gonna be there.
| keyle wrote:
| I migrated to Affinity after Adobe put the last nail in the
| coffin for me.
|
| I have to admit that even with some experience, Affinity doesn't
| get close to Photoshop in terms of shortcuts and ease of use
| ("getting in the flow").
|
| Sometimes I even resort to using photopea web, rather than open
| affinity.
|
| That said, I really appreciate their pricing model and hope they
| stick to their guns.
| detritus wrote:
| Yeah, totally this - I recently cropped my Adobe CC suite down
| to just Illy, which i _need_ , and bought Affinity's wares to
| replace, but it's no contest. Aside from literal decades of
| muscle memory, there's just too many speedbumps in the way of
| my normal workflow. So, I've dug out my copy of Photoshop CS2
| so I can do all my cleaning up and processing in there.
|
| Once I've found out what the difference between Affinity
| versions 1 and 2 is, I might yet buy 2 anyway, just to support
| Serif some more, because I'm frankly fed up of Adobe's practice
| of unhinged monolithic greed.
| regular wrote:
| rpastuszak wrote:
| I'm in the same situation. I used the Photography subscription
| for LR + PS, as I don't care about any other tools (RIP
| Fireworks). I've been using Adobe Products since 1999. I just
| feel like supporting them is unethical.
|
| Figma + Procreate replaced Photoshop for me for design/game dev
| workflows, but I'm still missing the right tools for
| Photography and image processing.
|
| The OSS LR replacements feel too clunky, CaptureOne is
| fantastic but a bit pricey. I'll have to bite the bullet
| eventually and choose between convenience and cost.
|
| Two questions:
|
| 1. Is Affinity desktop better than its iPad version?
|
| 2. What's your use case for Affinity as a replacement of PS?
| tmikaeld wrote:
| Too bad you're still supporting Adobe, since they purchased
| Figma.
| rpastuszak wrote:
| argh, to quote my favourite rougelike/hack'n'slash from the
| recent years:
|
| THERE IS NO ESCAPE.
|
| Edit: I just remembered I'm a cheap bastard and I'm not
| paying for Figma yet. yay?
| dividedbyzero wrote:
| C1 really is the only thing that comes close to LR right now.
| There is a version of CaptureOne that only works with
| Fujifilm cameras which is about 2/3 of the price of the full
| license and I believe there is (was?) something like that for
| other manufacturers too. They also still offer perpetual
| licenses, so this isn't necessarily an annual cost (I'm on
| 21). Still pricey of course.
| jug wrote:
| Yes, I don't even have very advanced needs but there are
| surprising omissions or ill thought of workflows throughout the
| software. I'm the most confused by the "personas" and sometimes
| feel like I need to go "back" because I need some tool, but I
| think there are some other strange design decisions too even in
| fairly basic tools.
| reaperducer wrote:
| Some smart person should publish an e-book, or a web site
| "Affinity Photo for Photoshop Users."
|
| It should list every Photoshop function, and how to
| accomplish the same thing on Affinity.
|
| After 20 years of using Photoshop, I'm forever searching the
| web for equivalent workflows in Affinity. Sometimes it's just
| the name or icon of a tool is different. Sometimes it's been
| completely re-thought. And sometimes, a feature is just
| missing.
|
| Honestly, this is something that Affinity should publish,
| itself, to encourage people to switch.
| leeches wrote:
| I also migrated a few years ago, after having used Photoshop
| and Illustrator professionally for a long time.
|
| The underlying features are there, but the lack of "flow" is
| the main source of frustration. A lot of common or frequent
| actions require needless extra steps, or simple actions require
| convoluted workarounds.
|
| They would benefit from starting an in-house creative studio,
| to get constant feedback from professionals using it for daily
| production. That or just start copying Adobe workflows
| verbatim, these are already solved problems.
|
| Good product and good business model.
| rchaud wrote:
| I do the same: Affinity Photo + Photopea + GIMP
|
| A combination of these usually gets the job done.
|
| Adobe products are boycotted in my work setup. I'm voting with
| my wallet!
| TimTheTinker wrote:
| Next month's news: Adobe buys Affinity.
|
| (Please let it not happen!)
| stevenkkim wrote:
| I migrated from Adobe to Affinity years ago and have absolutely
| loved it. In particular the abiilty to use both vector and raster
| graphics in Designer is a game changer.
|
| $99 for the universal license is an amazing deal. Well done
| Serif!
| Eric_WVGG wrote:
| Wondering if they've added WEBP export (I don't see it in the
| release notes).
|
| I've been prodding Affinity on their forums with a feature
| request over the past few years, but other forum-dwellers get
| weirdly hostile over it... like, yeah, I wish JPEG-2000 had made
| it too, but it didn't, and WEBP is here today and it works,
| should our graphics apps not live in the present?
| vetinari wrote:
| WEBP and JPEG-XL yes, AVIF no.
| Eric_WVGG wrote:
| Awesome! Upgrading for the feature alone, everything else is
| a bonus.
| jiveturkey wrote:
| Warning: To buy the bundle, you apparently need to have an
| affinity id/registration. At least I can't figure out how to buy
| it in the mac app store.
|
| All the apps are "free" with in-app purchase. I did the in-app
| bundle purchase for Designer 2. Now it won't let me apply that to
| Photo 2, without "activating" (requires registration with serif)
| or re-buying. Purchasing the bundle again asks for authentication
| which I didn't complete because I don't want to get charged
| twice. I was hoping it would recognize my previous purchase and
| just be a pass-through. I suppose because it's an in-app
| purchase, it will happily purchase as many times as I click. (As
| opposed to straight-up app purchases, which you can only do once
| per apple id.)
|
| "Restore purchase" link is completely unresponsive.
|
| One of the selling points of app store is that I don't give any
| info to the developer. So even though I could (and always do) use
| a one-time generated email address, they can still link that to
| my apple id. bah.
|
| If I had known this in advance I would have paid the extra $20 to
| buy each individually, rather than the bundle. So maybe this will
| help a scant few others.
|
| The mac app store can have bundles, so either serif chose not to
| create such bundle, or the app store simply didn't show that to
| me. Indeed search doesn't find any of these apps at all. I had to
| follow a deep link I got from I don't know where. That part also
| is very mysterious. I believe
| https://apps.apple.com/us/developer/serif-labs/id536107177 to be
| the link to all serif apps on the app store.
| 0xFEE1DEAD wrote:
| Just 4h ago I went to affinitys website because I wanted to
| download photos for my work laptop and I got a page "we're
| working on something big. stay tuned". And now I'm seing this.
| I'm hyped.
|
| Edit: Looks like there's no discount if you already own a license
| which is a bummer considering they advertised with selling you a
| lifetime license.
| hoistbypetard wrote:
| If you bought a lifetime license to the previous version, you
| can still use the previous version. (That's most commonly what
| "lifetime" license means... it's called that in contrast to a
| "subscription" where you can't keep using it if you stop
| paying.)
|
| Usually people who offer upgrades for life will use those
| words.
|
| I bought photos and designer for Windows and iPad. My daily
| driver is now a Mac, and I was hoping for a cyber Monday type
| sale to pick up a Mac version. This seems good to me, and the
| sale feels like a nice upgrade discount.
| Espressosaurus wrote:
| It's life time _for that version_. You can continue using your
| old version forever. I paid my $40 or $60 whatever 3 years ago
| and have gotten way more than $40 of value out of it.
|
| I'm about to happily plunk down money again because the price
| is right, it's a perpetual license, and it's a solid product.
|
| I just wish they'd release a DAM, because that's the one item I
| need right now.
| TeddyDD wrote:
| I would gladly buy the whole package if they supported Linux. One
| can dream.
| monkin wrote:
| I love Affinity, but why on earth there's no Hand tool in
| Designer on iPad? It is so frustrating to work with mouse and
| keyboard.
| H1Supreme wrote:
| When I couldn't get my copy of Adobe CS3 (from 2007) to install
| on a new Mac (64-bit only), I bought Designer and Photo from
| Affinity. Up until 2015, I made my living as designer, and was
| intimately familiar with Adobe's tools.
|
| Unlike everything else available (mostly open source), I slid
| right into Affinity's workflow without a hitch. Compared to CS3,
| this was actually quite the upgrade in terms of functionality. I
| suspect that might not be the case for people using the latest
| versions.
|
| If I were still designing with these tools day-in and day-out, I
| might have a different view on Affinity's offerings. But, for my
| light usage, they tick every box.
| sleepless wrote:
| So does version 2 of Affinity Photo add support for AVIF? Can't
| find it listed on https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/photo/full-
| feature-list/ (rather hard to search, since sections have to be
| uncollapsed one by one).
|
| Strange price model where existing customers do not get an
| upgrade discount.
| wdb wrote:
| Problem is that it's difficult to give discounts in the
| different App Stores so they give the discount to everyone
| regular wrote:
| reaperducer wrote:
| _Strange price model where existing customers do not get an
| upgrade discount._
|
| I'm an existing customer, and I look at it as 40% off for
| existing customers to upgrade, and also 40% off for people
| upgrading from Adobe.
| jbverschoor wrote:
| That's a strange way of reasoning..
| least wrote:
| I bought Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer in May of this
| year, less than 6 months ago. Some companies that offer
| perpetual licenses would simply give me the upgrade to the
| next version for free since it came out within a year, and
| basically all of them would offer an upgrade discount that
| isn't simply a launch sale, into perpetuity.
|
| The price is good for decent software but it's kind of
| discouraging me from wanting to upgrade, when their goal
| should be the exact opposite of that.
| kyrra wrote:
| This was one thing that annoyed me about Affinity as well, no
| AVIF or WEBP support. There are a number of threads on their
| forums asking for it, but Serif staff stopped responding to
| those a while ago.
| jbverschoor wrote:
| Yeah I used them since some beta, and got the paid version
| almost immediately, also just to support some good competition
| against adobe malware suite.
| lynndotpy wrote:
| Longtime GIMP user, never spent much time on any alternatives.
|
| This hit all my checkboxes:
|
| - No arbitration clause in the ToS - Rest of the ToS, PP is a
| breath of fresh air (comparatively speaking.) - One-time payment,
| not subscription based - License across all platforms is
| surprising and good, and is what made this an instant purchase.
|
| It's nice to know I'll have Affinity 2 forever, even if Adobe
| (god forbid) purchases Affinity.
| rchaud wrote:
| The good news here is that Adobe suite is not really threatened
| by Affinity products, as they're ahead in terms of features and
| enterprise presence.
|
| They acquired Figma because Figma was quickly becoming the go-
| to collaborative UI design tool in the workplace, something
| Adobe did not have with AdobeXD. If they were to try to acquire
| another company in this space, it would likely be Canva, rather
| than a comparatively small player like Serif.
| bogwog wrote:
| Consumers/the free market told Adobe to fuck off, but Adobe
| ignored them and forced their way in by buying the
| competition. This is something they've consistently done
| throughout their history, and it doesn't seem like there's
| anything consumers can do about it.
|
| /end-lossely-related-rant
| Vt71fcAqt7 wrote:
| Can you give some examples? I'm thinking of flash, but that
| was bound to die anyway.
| bogwog wrote:
| FreeHand is probably the most high profile, if not well
| known nowadays, since it led to a lawsuit brought by
| pissed off ex-FreeHand customers (which ultimately ended
| in a shitty settlement).
|
| There's also a full list of their acquisitions here,
| which might be fun to scroll through: https://en.wikipedi
| a.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Adobe
| lynndotpy wrote:
| Figma is the most recent. Behance and Frame.io are some
| other high-profile Adobe acquisitions.
|
| FWIW, Flash is still very widely used in the 2D animation
| industry, as Adobe Animate.
| moelf wrote:
| All platform is a lie, IIRC a long time ago they actually
| promised a Linux version, but never realized that.
| alpaca128 wrote:
| It includes licenses for all supported platforms. No, it
| doesn't support the Nintendo Switch, Android, Linux and many
| others, but calling it a lie because of that is a bit much.
|
| > IIRC a long time ago they actually promised a Linux version
|
| Did they actually "promise" it or just didn't outright reject
| it from the start?
| yakubin wrote:
| A single licence for all apps on all platforms at a reasonable
| price? Sweet.
|
| Previously I've only been using Affinity on Mac. Now I'll be able
| to see how it performs on Windows as well.
|
| I wonder though if they fixed the crop tool. The rectangle
| wouldn't stay within photo borders, i.e. any "constrain
| proportion" setting would be useless, and trying to align the
| crop with one of the borders was very mundane, pushing me to do
| all my cropping in ACDSee.
| boomskats wrote:
| 89 GBP vs 119 USD. Something is finally cheaper in GBP than it is
| in USD. Wow.
| Tao3300 wrote:
| I'd been meaning to become a paid subscriber to a certain
| British podcast, and the recent Tory discount was the perfect
| time to do it.
| ubercow13 wrote:
| Might be something to do with it being a British company!
| beardedman wrote:
| Love Affinity products. Absolute steal for the price.
| bowsamic wrote:
| I was so convinced that they would have moved to a subscription
| model out of pure fear that it took me ages to even convince
| myself it was a one time payment even though it was on giant
| letters on the page
| AtticHacker wrote:
| Darn I got excited for no reason. I first read "ALL PLATFORMS"
| and thought that version 2 would also work on Linux. But alas!
| zxspectrum1982 wrote:
| Same here. I'll gladly pay for Affinity on Linux.
| seanw444 wrote:
| Supposedly they're a relatively small team. According to
| another comment (I don't use it personally), they're missing a
| lot of features Adobe has had for decades, so they would
| probably understandably prioritize porting to Linux under _even
| that_.
| outcoldman wrote:
| It was not very clear about the Universal License, but if you
| purchase it, using your Account you activate also iPad versions
| for free. So for $99 you get all 3 apps for macOS, Windows and
| iPad, that is really cool deal!
| rpastuszak wrote:
| Protip for people trapped in an Adobe sub if you want to avoid
| the fine[^1]:
|
| 1. change your payment method to PayPal
|
| 2. cancel your payments in PayPal
|
| 3. add Adobe to your spam/archive filter
|
| [^1] The "pay monthly" (small print: annual) subscription we all
| love and cherish
| fxtentacle wrote:
| This works precisely because Adobe's terms are so exortionary
| that they don't want to risk testing their validity in court by
| suing you... Well played!
| rychco wrote:
| I was preparing myself for disappointment because I expected the
| new version to be accompanied by subscription pricing, but this
| is an incredible value.
|
| I only casually mess around with the ipad version at the moment,
| but I'm tempted to purchase the whole suite because it's such a
| friendly deal.
| piperswe wrote:
| I've bought the whole Affinity suite (v1) on Mac, Windows, and
| iPadOS over the course of the past couple of years, and I'm happy
| to pay $100 to support further development and get access to v2
| of all of it at once!
|
| I only use Affinity software casually every now and then, but
| it's a lifesaver when I do need it. Paying $100 every several
| years for a new major version is absolutely a worthwhile cost,
| and it's especially nice that it's not required ( _cough_ Adobe)
| noizz wrote:
| The best thing about Affinity is that Adobe noticed and I've been
| on "first year only" Creative Cloud promo EUR30/mo for a couple
| of years now, all it takes is a mention on chat whenever the
| promo is about to end.
| nbzso wrote:
| I love the Affinity Designer. Also bought the Photo suite.
|
| But if you are a serious graphic designer, all the available jobs
| use Adobe tools. It is a factual thing.
|
| Nowadays, I use mainly Figma (which is, again: Adobe) and wait
| for the next AI thing to remove me from my design job duties. :)
| qubex wrote:
| I'm looking for (and haven't yet found) any mention of v1 to v2
| discounts? Am I missing something or is it an entirely new
| purchase?
| ishitatsuyuki wrote:
| Serif mentioned on Twitter that the decision is partly driven
| by the absence of upgrading pricing options in third party app
| stores.
|
| https://twitter.com/affinitybyserif/status/15903262690314649...
| qubex wrote:
| A pity but it's reasonable.
| lancesells wrote:
| Really nice products and a pretty amazing price. I've used the
| version one for maybe 8 years and think it cost me $49.
| Pulcinella wrote:
| Thank god it looks like they finally fixed the slider UI on iPad.
| Previously the slider for something like a a stroke size appeared
| radially which was awkward. Worse, it didn't actually function
| radially. You could not drag the slider around the circle.
| Instead dragging to the right increased the value and dragging
| left decreased the value; also dragging up increased the value
| and dragging down decreased the value. Both axis operated at the
| same time so if you dragged right but also down slightly, some of
| the dragging would cancel itself out. The only way to get it to
| work properly was to drag diagonally between the bottom left of
| the screen to the top right. Now it appears the sliders just go
| up and down like every other UI on the planet.
|
| It does not appear that they have added free form and mesh
| gradients or gradients along a path. I really really don't like
| Adobe, but it's all the little long tail features that makes it
| hard for me to switch away.
| regular wrote:
| rcarmo wrote:
| Kudos for not having a subscription. That is _so_ refreshing
| these days.
| shp0ngle wrote:
| On the other hand, once the previous version stops working, it
| stops working. With Apple and their constant changes and bad
| backward portability, you can end up with broken app.
| mikece wrote:
| I don't want to renew my (annual) subscription for Lightroom and
| Photoshop when it's up; ideally I would like to move this
| workflow Linux (it's one of the few things keeping me on macOS).
| Are there Linux alternatives besides Darktable and Gimp and are
| they really able to compete with the Adobe (or Affinity)
| offerings?
| commoner wrote:
| Krita (https://krita.org) is a Linux-compatible alternative to
| GIMP, Affinity Photo, and Photoshop.
|
| Linux-compatible alternatives to Darktable and Lightroom
| include digiKam (https://www.digikam.org) and RawTherapee
| (https://rawtherapee.com).
| etra0 wrote:
| Nice, I'm really vouching for Affinity since Adobe went to SaaS.
| It has performed quite well for me and one time purchases are
| welcomed.
|
| I'd love for them to do a Lightroom replacement, since it's one
| of the last tools I'd like to replace from the Adobe subset.
|
| I tried Dark Table but the shadow slider would produce some weird
| artifacting (halos) so it was unusable for me.
| mhd wrote:
| Is there any improvement on how Affinity Publisher 2 handles
| multi column layout? This was one of the neat things that
| InDesign _finally_ imported from Ventura Publisher etc. who did
| this in the early 90s: You can have a paragraph style span
| columns. Without that, the interaction of sections and columns
| often gets rather tedious.
|
| AP1 was a lot closer to the PageMaker style of things. (I don't
| have a use case for vector graphics, and my limited bitmap needs
| are more than served by Pixelmator, Gimp, ImageMagick and Paint
| Shop Pro 7 via wine)
| 65 wrote:
| It's great Serif added the shape builder tool to Affinity. It's
| one of the most useful tools in Illustrator. Now that Affinity
| has it, I don't see any reason to keep using Illustrator.
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