[HN Gopher] Versepad - A text editor for poets
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       Versepad - A text editor for poets
        
       Author : notmysql_
       Score  : 47 points
       Date   : 2022-11-08 19:54 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (versepad.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (versepad.com)
        
       | BasilPH wrote:
       | Pretty cool, it taught me how to write a Haiku:
       | 
       | > Monkey eats apple
       | 
       | > Monkey prefers banana
       | 
       | > Suck it up monkey
        
         | nathell wrote:
         | That'd be a senryu. A proper haiku needs to have a kigo - a
         | word hinting at a season - and kireji, a cut-word.
         | 
         | (And English is on average terser than Japanese: I read
         | somewhere that an approximate equivalent of Japanese 5-7-5
         | morae is 3-5-3 English syllables, so the syllable count
         | requirement is not absolute. Even Basho's famous crow haiku
         | kareDuo niWu notomarikeriQiu noMu  is 19 morae rather than 17.)
        
       | unwind wrote:
       | This looks really cool!
       | 
       | It feels like it would be a very small step to "RhymePad", i.e.
       | an editor designed and optimized for writing rap lyrics which I
       | think would be really cool, too.
       | 
       | Perhaps that already exists?
        
       | Bilal_io wrote:
       | It's impossible to work with it on mobile due to input
       | highjacking. It actively tries to update my input any time I type
       | something.
        
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       | jan_Inkepa wrote:
       | For ridiculously-specialist poetry-writing software, the maker of
       | that pretty Classical Chinese programming language ( https://wy-
       | lang.org/ ) people were talking about had also previously made a
       | similar editor for Tang-era Chinese poetry -
       | https://github.com/LingDong-/cope , which keeps track of tone
       | patterns and rhymes.
        
       | mcculley wrote:
       | Very cool. I have been wanting some of these features for a while
       | and finally got around to my own implementation:
       | https://github.com/mcculley/WordWhittler
       | 
       | I welcome ideas on how to do smarter things around text
       | composition.
       | 
       | I was heavily inspired having benefited from Remembrance Agent
       | back when I lived in Emacs: https://github.com/zzkt/remembrance-
       | agent
        
       | nxpnsv wrote:
       | Suddenly I invested 30mins in writing some of the worst poetry.
       | Great stuff! :)
        
       | sytelus wrote:
       | It would be super cool to hook up GPT fine tuned on poetry
       | dataset to complete the lines :).
        
       | nathell wrote:
       | It'd be cool to have it support villanelles, where you can type
       | in the first stanza and it'd pre-fill the patterned lines in the
       | remaining five.
        
         | nathell wrote:
         | (After typing this, it occurred to me to check if Emacs has a
         | mode that supports this. And, sure enough, it does!
         | http://www.bobnewell.net/filez/poetry.el)
        
       | WallyFunk wrote:
       | If you like this, you may like the Hemingway app:
       | https://hemingwayapp.com/
        
       | powersnail wrote:
       | How does it determine where are the stresses? Is it based on just
       | the word itself?
       | 
       | I'm very new to English poetry, I might be entirely wrong here.
       | But when I input some famous poems, the way this app puts
       | stresses is quite a bit different from my understanding.
       | 
       | For instance, for
       | 
       | > Bards of Passion and of Mirth,
       | 
       | It sees _and_ as unstressed, the second _of_ as stressed, and
       | _Mirth_ as unstressed, which doesn't quite make sense to me to be
       | honest.
       | 
       | > Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow
       | 
       | It sees both _and_ as unstressed, while my understanding is that
       | this verse is better read as fully iambic, putting stresses on
       | both _and_.
       | 
       | > And what is love? It is a doll dress'd up / For idleness to
       | cosset, nurse and dandle
       | 
       | https://i.imgur.com/raPMDnc.png
       | 
       | It sees four consecutive unstressed syllables. I'm not sure what
       | is the logic here.
        
         | DrewRWx wrote:
         | I got stuck on consistently detecting syllable stress when I
         | tried to write a similar tool, so I'm really interested too.
        
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