[HN Gopher] Enigma Variations
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Enigma Variations
Author : tintinnabula
Score : 43 points
Date : 2022-11-04 21:52 UTC (3 days ago)
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| bell-cot wrote:
| And here I expected
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine#Models
| HKH2 wrote:
| The first part was sampled in Rob Dougan's Clubbed to Death.
| motohagiography wrote:
| While I haven't attempted Elgar's work, some few years ago I
| started running down the rabbit hole of musical cryptograms. The
| main reason I wasn't interested in Elgar or alleged Bach
| cryptograms was I suspected artists before the 20th century were
| too given to allegory and coincidence that was more like a
| crossword with contextual clues than an actual cryptogram.
|
| One I spent a bit of time on was Max Richter's cipher from his
| album _Infra_ which uses a morse code shorthand that I wasn 't
| able to recover, but it appeared to contain something like a PO
| box address at one point. I don't have an ear for morse, so I
| relied on using audacity to isolate the track and then variations
| of automatic analysis to yield something. The challenge with
| artistic ciphers is they can be impressionistic. There appeared
| to be a time lapse of images from 9/11 in the spectrogram of the
| Infra pieces, and a winding path that I thought might have been a
| bus route along the Thames from 7/7, but again because it's
| impressionistic, it's really hard to verify, and I can't imagine
| him letting on if someone got it right anyway. The morse seems
| like the only verifiable part.
|
| Aphex Twin's famous "face" spectrogram is just the most famous
| example of a whole bunch of puzzles produced by artists in that
| genre under various aliases and pseudonyms. The project "Gescom"
| (which claims members of groups like Future Sound of London, who
| Richter also once collaborated with) made what are kind of etudes
| for electronic music production, where with a tool like Audacity
| or ffmpeg, you can reverse and unfold some of the samples to
| yield their original form, and in doing so, you can hear how the
| glitches and industrial sounds are made.
|
| Maybe there is some future project where we can use ML and some
| kind of conditional entropy filter on the tracks in these songs
| (and perhaps even Elgar's variations) to do feature extraction
| and identify artifacts of intent from noise, and then potentially
| unfold what these artists folded into their work. I've also been
| working on something similar with Arvo Part's work, which is also
| alleged to be procedural, and have had a bit more success with
| it, and there are others who have written about it but again,
| difficult to verify. Fascinating topic.
| __coaxialcabal wrote:
| TIL about Aphex Twin's Windowlicker face spectrogram....
|
| https://www.wired.com/2002/05/hey-whos-that-face-in-my-song/
| nsedlet wrote:
| The score for Dunkirk includes a piece by Hans Zimmer that adapts
| one of the Enigma Variations:
| https://open.spotify.com/track/5eeBoptaR9wfFe5csGjIMP?si=3b5...
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| One of the most beautiful uses of music in a movie in recent
| memory, IMO.
| silvester23 wrote:
| Just a note: According to Wikipedia and Spotify, that track
| ("Variation 15") was written by Benjamin Wallfisch [0], not by
| Zimmer.
|
| [0]
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Wallfisch#As_composer...
| globular-toast wrote:
| There's something special about Nimrod that really resonates
| with British people. I always found use of it in films to be a
| rather cheap shot, but I suppose in Dunkirk it is just on the
| right side of tasteful.
| elcapitan wrote:
| I guess it hits extra hard in Dunkirk because of the ominous
| soundtrack that you're exposed through all the rest of the
| movie. Then with the plane safely landing in the end, the
| arrival of the trains full of soldiers, Churchill's speech
| and Nimrod placed over it, all that tension gets resolved at
| once in a beautiful way.
| symfoniq wrote:
| Not just British people. This American heard it (along with
| the rest of the variations) performed on my first date with
| my wife. It will always be a favorite.
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