[HN Gopher] Electrons turn piece of wire into laser-like light s...
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       Electrons turn piece of wire into laser-like light source
        
       Author : dr_dshiv
       Score  : 57 points
       Date   : 2022-11-06 09:27 UTC (13 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.nature.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.nature.com)
        
       | claaams wrote:
       | The author did a good job with the hook but I'm still not sold.
        
       | bilsbie wrote:
       | Paywall
        
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       | KurvaKing wrote:
        
       | dtgriscom wrote:
       | Well, it had an interesting start...
        
         | adrian_b wrote:
         | From the description, the device made by the Chinese team is
         | for a free-electron laser what a transistor was for an
         | amplifying vacuum tube.
         | 
         | A free-electron laser is also a kind of vacuum tube, and one
         | that is extremely large and expensive.
         | 
         | The new kind of free-electron laser, uses the free electrons
         | from a solid-state metal wire instead of using free electrons
         | from vacuum, so it can be much smaller, much cheaper and much
         | more reliable, exactly like a solid-state transistor is in
         | comparison with a vacuum pentode or triode.
         | 
         | Without access to complete text, it is not known in which
         | wavelength range the metal wire can act as a laser and which is
         | the energy efficiency.
         | 
         | Nevertheless, it could revolutionize the use of free-electron
         | lasers. Such a laser has a much more limited domain of
         | applications than a transistor, so it will not have a similar
         | impact, even if it is a similar kind of invention.
         | 
         | The traditional free-electron lasers have the advantage that
         | they can be designed to produce light of a desired frequency,
         | while most other kinds of lasers are constrained to produce
         | only certain frequencies from the spectra of various kinds of
         | atoms, ions, molecules or solid crystals.
         | 
         | It would be interesting to know if this new kind of free-
         | electron laser can also be designed to produce light of any
         | desired frequency (within a certain range).
        
           | bilsbie wrote:
           | Thanks for the explanation! Could this be used for holograms
           | for less money like hobos? What are some other applications?
           | Better laser cutters?
        
             | adrian_b wrote:
             | After browsing through the full text, thanks to the link
             | provided by another poster, the conclusion is that such
             | solid-state free-electron lasers might be realizable only
             | in the far infrared, at frequencies much lower than those
             | of visible light, unlike the vacuum free-electron lasers,
             | which can produce even ultraviolet light.
             | 
             | These can still have many useful applications, but
             | holograms are not one of them, because their output will
             | not be visible.
             | 
             | Laser cutters are also another excluded application,
             | because such lasers will have a low electrical energy to
             | light energy conversion efficiency. The reason is that
             | these solid-state free-electron lasers, like also most
             | other laser types except the laser diodes and some of the
             | gas lasers, use another laser as their energy source, so
             | the efficiencies of the 2 lasers are multiplied. Actually
             | the pumping laser needs almost certainly to be pumped
             | itself by a laser diode. Therefore the total efficiency
             | will be the product of the efficiencies of 3 lasers, so it
             | will be low.
             | 
             | More likely applications would be in communications, Lidar,
             | imaging through materials that are opaque for visible
             | light, chemical analysis, maybe influencing certain
             | chemical reactions.
             | 
             | The fact that solid-state free-electron lasers should work
             | only in the far infrared is actually expected, because high
             | frequencies, like those of visible or ultraviolet light
             | require a large energy difference between the energy of the
             | electrons before and after emitting the laser light. When
             | the electrons are free before and after emission, that
             | means that the pumping source must accelerate them,
             | providing the energy difference.
             | 
             | In vacuum, a free electron can be accelerated to any
             | energy, e.g. up to levels enabling the emission of X-rays
             | when the electrons lose the accumulated energy, but in a
             | metal a free electron that is accelerated too much will
             | either collide with the lattice of atoms, losing the
             | energy, or it might even exit the metal and be lost, like
             | in the photoemissive electrodes that were used in the
             | earliest video cameras.
        
               | mycall wrote:
               | Is there a way to shift light frequency outside of the
               | laser? That could open up more applications.
        
               | adrian_b wrote:
               | There are frequency multipliers, optical mixers and
               | optical parametric amplifiers, which can multiply, sum or
               | subtract the frequencies of laser beams.
               | 
               | A well known use is in the green laser pointers, which
               | contain a frequency doubler and an infrared laser.
               | 
               | However any frequency conversion device increases the
               | cost and reduces the energy efficiency.
               | 
               | It is very unlikely that it would ever make sense to
               | multiply the frequency of such a laser with enough stages
               | to reach visible light, because that would increase the
               | cost much above the alternative solutions that exist for
               | tunable lasers in the visible range.
        
               | lightedman wrote:
               | Dipotassium Phosphate crystals have been used to
               | frequency-shift IR to green light for lasers, IIRC. I
               | don't know how well they would work for other frequencies
               | but doing 1064 to 532nm is workable.
        
           | swayvil wrote:
           | Cheap tunable laser. That's HUGE.
           | 
           | There are amazing tricks available then. For one, in tuning
           | to the resonant frequencies of whatever. For low-heat cutting
           | stuff, 3d video.
        
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       | RobotToaster wrote:
       | Full paper is here https://europepmc.org/article/ppr/ppr485152
        
         | sitkack wrote:
         | https://web.archive.org/web/20220421175228/https://assets.re...
        
           | westurner wrote:
           | "Coherent Surface Plasmon Polariton Amplification via Free
           | Electron Pumping" (2022) Ye Tian, Dongdong Zhang, Yushan
           | Zeng, Yafeng Bai, Zhongpeng Li, and 1 more
           | https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-1572967/v1
           | 
           | > Abstract: _Surface plasmonic with its unique confinement of
           | light is expected to be a cornerstone for future compact
           | radiation sources and integrated photonics devices. The
           | energy transfer between light and matter is a defining aspect
           | that underlies recent studies on optical surface-wave-
           | mediated spontaneous emissions. But coherent stimulated
           | emission, being omnipresent in every laser system, remains to
           | be realized and revealed in the optical near fields
           | unambiguously and dynamically. Here, we present the coherent
           | amplification of Terahertz surface plasmon polaritons via
           | free electron stimulated emission. We demonstrate the
           | evolutionary amplification process with a frequency redshift
           | and lasts over 1-mm interaction length. The complementary
           | theoretical analysis predicts a 100-order surface wave growth
           | when a properly phase-matched electron bunch is used, which
           | lays the ground for a stimulated surface wave light source
           | and may facilitate capable means for matter manipulation,
           | especially in the Terahertz band._
           | 
           | Polariton: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polariton
           | 
           | Surface plasmon polaritons :
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_plasmon_polaritons :
           | 
           | > [...] _Application of SPPs enables subwavelength optics in
           | microscopy and photolithography beyond the diffraction limit.
           | It also enables the first steady-state micro-mechanical
           | measurement of a fundamental property of light itself: the
           | momentum of a photon in a dielectric medium. Other
           | applications are photonic data storage, light generation, and
           | bio-photonics.[2][3][4][5]_
        
             | sitkack wrote:
             | This looks ripe for some cutting edge table-top physics!
        
               | westurner wrote:
               | - Live ~fMRI in surgery (OpenWater,) #TricorderXPrize
               | 
               | - Atomic antenna that listens on all frequencies; with
               | bus and disk throughput as the new limits (Rydberg
               | Technologies)
               | 
               | - Nonlocal entanglement, laser-induced coherence, QKD,
               | passive backscatter wireless,
               | 
               | Exciting work!
        
             | westurner wrote:
             | Near-infrared window in biological tissue:
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-
             | infrared_window_in_biolog...
             | 
             | NIRS Near-infrared spectroscopy > Applications:
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-
             | infrared_spectroscopy#App...
        
       | stevespang wrote:
        
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