[HN Gopher] Microsoft sued for open-source piracy through GitHub...
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       Microsoft sued for open-source piracy through GitHub Copilot
        
       Author : redbell
       Score  : 49 points
       Date   : 2022-11-05 20:49 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | throwaway675309 wrote:
       | Even if this succeeds (I sincerely hope that it does not, as I
       | believe these to be sufficiently transformative as to be
       | considered fair use), it doesn't functionally matter in the long
       | term:
       | 
       | 1. The ability to be able to both run and train these models is
       | going to eventually be plausible on a home machine with even
       | modest hardware.
       | 
       | 2. These models, e.g. such as one scraped from all of the code on
       | GitHub, will be publicly available via torrent or whatever.
       | 
       | 3. People will be able to run it locally as an integrated plug-in
       | in their IDE of choice, jetbrains, vs code, etc.
       | 
       | 4. You'll never know if somebody has lifted a bit of code in
       | violation of a license anymore than you would be able to tell if
       | somebody copy-pasted from stack overflow without attribution in
       | any commercial application
        
         | jrockway wrote:
         | > You'll never know if somebody has lifted a bit of code in
         | violation of a license anymore than you would be able to tell
         | if somebody copy-pasted from stack overflow without attribution
         | in any commercial application
         | 
         | Wasn't this the subject of millions of dollars of litigation
         | between Oracle and Google?
        
       | greenyoda wrote:
       | Big discussion a couple of days ago:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33457063
        
       | Sunspark wrote:
       | For awhile now I have not wanted to use GitHub because of this
       | tool. Why should anyone write code for Microsoft for free when
       | Microsoft charges for software?
       | 
       | Perhaps options like GitLab and others should be considered
       | instead.
        
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