[HN Gopher] Show HN: Stable Diffusion print-on-demand apparel
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Show HN: Stable Diffusion print-on-demand apparel
Hey HN, Obviously we are experiencing a surge of stable-diffusion
based apps at the moment, but I have yet to see anyone try and map
the outputs onto actual physical products that can be delivered to
your door. I wanted to make it easy to: - pick an artistic style
- hit 'record' and speak into your phone / tablet / desktop or
whatever, and describe the kind of design you want your clothing to
have (since speaking is more spontaneous that typing) - swipe
among a variety of mockups (t-shirts, hoodies etc.) featuring your
design, and order it to your door with the click of a button The
product is called 1SEWN. Fulfilment is currently achieved using a
print-on-demand service called Printful (https://www.printful.com)
that I have integrated with. If you guys would like to try it, I
would love some feedback. Shipping is currently limited to outside
Europe, but even if you are in Europe, your feedback about the
whole UX would be much appreciated! Much love, Matt
Author : mox111
Score : 40 points
Date : 2022-11-05 12:08 UTC (10 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.1sewn.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.1sewn.com)
| appleflaxen wrote:
| Having a voice recognition interface for something I could type
| (more accurately) in 10 seconds is very off-putting. I don't use
| Siri for a reason.
| [deleted]
| jdjslskshdj wrote:
| Taking fast fashion to a whole new level. Depressing.
| antiterra wrote:
| This isn't inherently fast fashion, and on-demand shirt
| printing isn't a new thing. I had a cafepress t-shirt I used
| for ~10 years and only got rid of it because I lost weight.
| [deleted]
| systemicdanna wrote:
| Not giving microphone access unless it's something _I_ need, not
| the website.
|
| Would be great if you could add text input as an alternative to
| voice input.
| [deleted]
| fxtentacle wrote:
| This reminds me of my failed business idea https://indivicia.com/
|
| The problem with printed shirts is that everyone expects them to
| be cheap-ish. And the Printful quality is low enough that people
| were upset at a $50 price point. The only tshirts that sell for
| higher prices are branded ones, e.g. with Marvel characters on
| them. But then you're effectively selling copyright infringement
| as a service. And your profit margins will be low overall because
| Printful and their shipping are rather expensive.
|
| In the end, and with external help, I then acquired and ran
| https://meowbikinis.com/ for a while. Profit margins were
| insanely better. Until the lockdowns in China started and the
| last leftovers of my stock spoiled inside a rented fulfillment
| center...
| zwog wrote:
| > You have denied audio permission. If you want, you can always
| go to your 'settings' and allow it to fully experience this site
|
| Weird phrasing. If I don't want to I can't experience the site at
| all.
| [deleted]
| antiterra wrote:
| An app being confusingly passive is the blinking 12:00 display
| of our time.
| soheil wrote:
| > map the outputs onto actual physical products
|
| But wouldn't that be more like an actual 3D printed cat instead
| of a picture of a cat on a t-shirt?
| [deleted]
| wyck wrote:
| Really, really bad idea to use force using microphone. Unreal.
| [deleted]
| prepend wrote:
| Perhaps it's just a honeypot to capture some voices of hacker
| news readers.
|
| I'm now suspicious whenever someone has a stupid tool that the
| real purpose is to train some model with the input.
| [deleted]
| pvg wrote:
| _Instead of "you're doing it wrong", suggest alternatives. When
| someone is learning, help them learn more.
|
| When something isn't good, you needn't pretend that it is, but
| don't be gratuitously negative._
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html
| snovv_crash wrote:
| The alternative here is pretty obvious - a text box.
| pvg wrote:
| 'Don't be a jerk' is the more important, seemingly less
| obvious alternative.
| snovv_crash wrote:
| Requesting microphone permissions for something that
| would actually be easier without it is also very
| obnoxious, and for anywhere with GDPR perhaps even
| illegal if the data was persisted. Maybe this is why it
| isn't available in Europe?
| pvg wrote:
| The guideline is there to avoid escalating obnoxiousness
| because it trashes the forum.
| robflynn wrote:
| You're going to get sued in the US if you try to market this
| thing and require voice input. This is potentially a huge
| accessibility issue.
|
| You've essentially eliminated (most) people who are deaf and
| people with speech issues from being able to use your product.
|
| It's a neat idea and the design looks like it could be nice but I
| can't really get past the first page because I cannot use it (no
| mic attached to this device and I wouldn't want to grant you
| permission to it anyway.)
| [deleted]
| karaterobot wrote:
| I have no microphone attached to my computer, so I can't use your
| AI to order a t-shirt. What a weird sentence.
| [deleted]
| cercatrova wrote:
| For those that want a text box, I've used
| https://thisshirtexists.com, works well.
|
| Insane that OP's site works with audio _and only audio_. I mean,
| who thought the more complicated way to enter text should be not
| only the default, but the only option at all?
| brookst wrote:
| Presumably they're working on an alternative using device
| accelerometers to allow Morse code input.
| [deleted]
| Retr0id wrote:
| IMHO, anyone who enjoys entering text via speech already uses it
| as a feature of their operating system (I know android and iOS
| both have dictation buttons). Most people don't use these
| features however, for good reason.
|
| I wanted to try it out, but unfortunately I don't even have a
| microphone on my current device.
|
| I just want to see some example prompt/output combinations!
| r-zip wrote:
| Why do you need microphone access? Can't you use text instead?
| I'm not giving mic access to some random website.
| [deleted]
| aliqot wrote:
| they just said because you can speak the prompt. kids these
| days dont want to use their hands, that's for babies.
|
| https://youtu.be/KMy1zO8m8sM
| d23 wrote:
| Cool idea, but my first and only attempt returned "something went
| wrong".
| AkshatJ27 wrote:
| I expected it to somehow fill the entire shirt, but apparently it
| just makes a rectangular patch of the image on a plain
| black/white shirt. Also, the speech to text doesn't seem to do
| that well.
| cercatrova wrote:
| The rectangle is probably a limitation of the t shirt printer
| service they're using, I've also seen that they don't usually
| fill the entire shirt.
| ipaddr wrote:
| They could print on the entire shirt as that is an option
| when they setup the store but the profit margin would make it
| too expensive for a third-party.
| omarfarooq wrote:
| That would require the more involved 'cut and sew' process.
| soheil wrote:
| > Shipping is currently limited to outside Europe
|
| So you ship to North Korea but not Germany? Got it.
| [deleted]
| pinum wrote:
| What's the reason for the "everywhere except Europe" shipping?
| I'm guessing some legal/regulatory thing, but would be curious to
| know the details.
| zwog wrote:
| As stated in the original post printing and shipping is handled
| by https://www.printful.com/ and they offer their services in
| Europe.
|
| I assume it has something to do with copyright regulations in
| Europe or similar?
| snovv_crash wrote:
| GDPR maybe if the microphone data is saved?
| sungam wrote:
| Great idea - I actually did this manually already by generating
| an image and uploading to vistaprint. One thing I noticed was
| that it's hard to generate images with no background so you could
| consider automatic background removal as a value add over the
| standard image generation algorithm.
| systemicdanna wrote:
| An important question to ask yourself before you launch a
| product: when you look at the final result, do you personally
| think that it delivers on your value prop? If you don't think so,
| then users, who are often more critical, definitely won't either.
|
| "you don't have to be a fashion designer or graphic artist to
| create amazing clothes that express your personality. Whether you
| want to print a simple design or something more complex, 1SEWN
| makes it easy and affordable to get the perfect item, every time"
|
| Do you think a generic white T-shirt with a small print of a low
| artistic quality is really expressing anyone's personality? Or
| that it looks like a "perfect item"?
| [deleted]
| hahamrfunnyguy wrote:
| The idea of using stable diffusion to create a t-shirt is
| compelling, but the execution here leaves a lot to be desired.
|
| Randomly, I picked the stencil style and went for "Man with beard
| base jumping from the Eiffel tower." It produced one really poor
| image. It wasn't stenciled looking at all.
|
| Next I went for pop art and used the prompt "Frog riding a
| motorcycle". The art style looked like something that an 8 year
| old would draw, not Andy Warhol (which I believe is the artist in
| your screenshot).
|
| So I think you have some work to do in taking the inputs from the
| user and crafting them into better SD prompts that generate
| outputs that look like t-shirt artwork and in the styles they're
| supposed to be. I'd also drop the voice prompt support, no added
| value here. Definitely would prefer to type it on my computer and
| mobile keyboards already have a voice-input button.
| mdaEyebot wrote:
| It's easier to get good results by generating 2-8 images for
| each prompt, picking the best result, using that as the
| starting point for a new run.
|
| Tweak the parameters of how close the new image should be to
| the old one and the prompts, tweak the prompts to address
| problem areas in the image, generate another 2-8. Rinse and
| repeat until you have something decent.
|
| I doubt that the really impressive SD images are coming from
| submitting a prompt once and taking that output. It's better
| than past open-source efforts like the mini dall-es, but it
| also still has a way to go before it can reliably produce good
| results on its own.
|
| AI art on products is an interesting idea, but personally I
| would use a more fully-featued SD web UI to generate the image
| locally.
| robflynn wrote:
| This is one of those things where op needs to do something
| similar to what I think midjourney is doing and do prompt
| optimization.
|
| They need to do some research into what additional prompt
| cues they can add for the user automatically to bring the
| user's prompt quality up.
|
| They can append these to the prompt behind the scenes or
| provide a second text input of the additional prompt data to
| allow the user to modify that separately from their initial
| prompt input.
|
| It might even help the user better understand how styling
| works with prompts.
| prepend wrote:
| The input does not do speech to text well. I would like to use
| this service. Let me type my prompt.
|
| I tried 5 times and every time it messed up what I said. My os
| has a good speech to text tool and I would use that if I wanted
| to talk a prompt.
|
| The site is cool and it's a neat idea, but forcing microphone use
| is weird and ineffective.
| nbzso wrote:
| We are living in the future. In the next iteration, I expect
| direct connection from my Neuralink to the Creative gods of AI
| Metaverse. Why speak at all. This is for babies.:)
| [deleted]
| RootKitBeerCat wrote:
| Add the ability to write a text prompt; accessibility wise - not
| everyone speaks the same or can be understood by basic speech to
| text
| dmd wrote:
| Yup. After 6 attempts it still couldn't understand me. And I'm
| a native english speaker, grew up in the US northeast, and
| nobody would accuse me of having any sort of non-US-broadcast-
| standard accent.
| ben_w wrote:
| And some of us just plain don't want to use voice interfaces.
| prepend wrote:
| I don't mind using them, but this one doesn't work. It makes
| for some comical images but this is not an effective voice
| prompt.
| systemicdanna wrote:
| Many complained about voice-only input. I want to highlight a few
| other aspects that could be improved:
|
| 1. Navigation doesn't work. Sometimes swiping right goes to the
| next page, sometimes doesn't. Then you are stuck on the 3rd page
| and can't go back.
|
| 2. What are points? I have 5 points, got to the payment step -
| the T-shirt is $25. How am I supposed to use points?
|
| 3. The T-shirt that is displayed as a 3D background is completely
| different from the low quality generic fit design at the end.
| This discrepancy is off-putting.
|
| 4. The tiny final print is unintelligible on my phone. Some
| squiggles and circles that I can't make sense of at this
| resolution/zoom level.
|
| I think the idea of custom fashion is interesting, but this
| implementation doesn't feel empowering at all. Feels limiting and
| gimmicky. More importantly, the result - a generic T-shirt with a
| very small print is not fashionable or even attractive.
| [deleted]
| demarq wrote:
| >Please note at this early stage we only offer shipping to
| countries outside of Europe.
|
| Don't you mean inside?
| fxtentacle wrote:
| Probably due to EU tax law. I did the same when I was using
| Printful with a German company. Shipping to the US is cheap and
| tax free, shipping to the EU is annoying.
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