[HN Gopher] Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)
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Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)
Author : editbutton
Score : 304 points
Date : 2022-11-04 16:22 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| andrewshadura wrote:
| This mentions Bibliogram, but in fact it's been discontinued
| since Instagram has been actively breaking it for quite some
| time. Another app, Barinsta, died after its author was served a
| C&D letter.
| kornhole wrote:
| I have been using RSS-Bridge to generate those feeds, but today
| it looks like Mark changed the API again. Hopefully next update
| will fix that. I wish I could get my family and friends to
| start posting on the Pixelfed instance I setup for them to
| avoid this cat and mouse game with Meta. ;/
| paulgb wrote:
| The current situation at Twitter has made me want to go back to
| the good-old-days of RSS, I'm glad to see I'm not alone.
|
| I'm rusty, though. What's the best Mac desktop RSS client these
| days?
| addajones wrote:
| I highly recommend Reeder. Been using it for years. Solid.
| stepri wrote:
| Reeder has also support for Twitter, Youtube and Reddit.
| Great app indeed
| jakewalker wrote:
| Strongly prefer NetNewsWire, which is free and open source.
| www.netnewswire.com. Available on Mac and iOS.
| addajones wrote:
| Also a great choice and has been around for a while!
| themadturk wrote:
| Yes, NetNewsWire is great. It works well as a client for
| Feedbin, too.
| jonwinstanley wrote:
| Yes the iOS app was rewritten relatively recently and is
| excellent
| ghostpepper wrote:
| For people who willingly live in (or visit) Apple's walled
| garden, I like News Explorer because it syncs (subscribed feeds
| and read/unread state of each article) via icloud between
| iphone, ipad and macOS.
| gbil wrote:
| Just earlier this week I went back to rss with my selfhosted
| aggregator based on FreshRSS docker. What made me go back to rss
| was partially fueled by the twitter situation since I primarily
| use twitter for updates from news and tech sites. Moreover, I
| realized that on twitter I get the "list" of news but then I also
| spend a lot of time browsing the various sites even if there are
| no new articles and rss would be ideal to get at the same time a
| list of new articles, go back to read/old ones and expand only
| what I wanted in the same interface - with some compromises.
|
| FreshRSS looked to be a more up to date solution compared to
| ttrss that I self hosted in the past with a BIG plus of going
| beyond what is available in the rss stream, retrieve full
| articles AND even just parse normal web pages to retrieve
| articles when rss is not available. For sure I've spent 2-3 hours
| to setup all these things, but now I have a curated list of rss
| feeds + parsed normal sites in a page, rarely needing to go
| outside of that view directly on the relevant sites and
| accessible from everywhere with proper user/pass support behind a
| reverse proxy. AND I spend less time just browsing without reason
| ;)
| ZeroGravitas wrote:
| Has anyone got Mozilla Pocket and newsboat working together?
|
| I'd like to bookmark interesting long reads for later to Pocket
| from newsboat, but also resurface them as an RSS feed, but it
| seems a little awkward.
| Vixel wrote:
| I was a huge fan of RSS for a long time but stopped using it. I
| found that when I added in multiple feeds of my interests, My
| feed was littered with the same stories and sometimes even the
| same content. Also, much of the content had the same ads that
| were on the sites. So at that point, it was easier to just visit
| the sites with an ad blocker on.
| ozarker wrote:
| Some clients let you dedup a bit
| ZeroGravitas wrote:
| Some way of grouping things by canonical links would be neat.
|
| Like if HN and lobste.rs (or other link aggregators) both point
| to a recent news story, then the fact that you've read the url
| they link to, should be a seperate concept from whether you've
| 'read' the discussion that points to the link.
|
| And if you seperately have a feed of the originating news site,
| reading it there would mark it in both places.
| ghostpepper wrote:
| This doesn't help if you follow, eg. five different news
| sites and they all report on the same event with largely the
| same facts (or even the exact same article copy syndicated)
| lapcat wrote:
| > My feed was littered with the same stories and sometimes even
| the same content.
|
| To be fair, this is a big problem everywhere, not just with
| RSS. Especially on Twitter, and even here with dupes on HN.
|
| It's more of a problem though if you're following a bunch of
| "news" feeds, as opposed to, say, technical blogs with original
| content.
| frumiousirc wrote:
| A useful reminder is to configure your RSS reader to poll at a
| reasonable frequency. I know of at least one popular blog that
| blocks RSS polls from liferea due to a too-fast default.
| firefoxkekw wrote:
| Highly recommend the newsflash rss reader for linux, wroted in
| rust and official flatpak so it should work on any distro.
|
| https://gitlab.com/news-flash/news_flash_gtk
| robalni wrote:
| > I have stopped subscribing/following anything/anyone online.
|
| Same. I even wrote a program that allows me to follow people on
| Twitch without being logged in there. I made a bash alias so I
| just need to type "f" in the terminal when I want to see who is
| live. Otherwise I use newsboat for things that have RSS feeds and
| w3m bookmarks for everything else. W3m has a really nice
| bookmarks page that is just a list of links that you can access
| with alt+b; very convenient when you want to quickly go to a
| page.
| satrday wrote:
| Would love to see the Twitch program!
| robalni wrote:
| https://github.com/robalni/twitch-shell
| djbusby wrote:
| All in bash!, well done, neat usage of `nc` in there too.
| googlryas wrote:
| Not only bash but some of the more readable shell script
| I've seen. OP, if you're reading this, is that an
| idiomatic style or did you learn the style from some well
| known source?
| robalni wrote:
| I don't know what you refer to when you talk about the
| style but it's just how I write code; I try to keep it
| simple. Some of the simplicity of the code is possible
| because it's bash, which both means that I can skip
| parsing the input (since bash already is made for doing
| that) and use existing programs like curl and nc.
| t0bia_s wrote:
| Agree, RSS is great tool for decentralization.
|
| However, I cannot find proper open-source RSS reader for Windows
| that fits in 2022. Any recommendations? I especially need
| customization for appearance of text/feed.
|
| Feeder for Android is great.
| timbit42 wrote:
| Perhaps QuiteRSS.
| Semaphor wrote:
| I've been self hosting TT-RSS since Newsblut raised prices some
| years ago (which was what I switched to when Google Reader
| closed). My list simply grew over time. Whenever I see an
| interesting article (doesn't matter where, here, Reddit, Twitter,
| Facebook) I check if the others are interesting, and if so, I
| subscribe. Almost everything worth reading has a feed.
| rinze wrote:
| Another happy TT-RSS user here. I moved after the Google Reader
| debacle.
| remram wrote:
| Switched from TT-RSS to FreshRSS recently, mostly because I
| don't want to hack on PHP code. It's a good alternative, also
| light weight.
| Semaphor wrote:
| I tried it and some things didn't work, can't remember what
| was my issue, though.
| FortiDude wrote:
| lobste.rs/s is a missed oppurtunity
| pfoof wrote:
| Acshually it's not RSS, it's Atom /j
| matai_kolila wrote:
| I just don't understand the obsession with privacy at all cost.
| What has anyone actually had happen to them as a result of their
| Reddit or YouTube browsing history?
|
| This just seems like reverse voyeurism, and while that's fine,
| it's odd to assume anyone else shares that fetish with you.
| Shared404 wrote:
| There are aspects of my life obvious from my Reddit/YouTube
| history that people I have heard people they say they think
| should be worthy of death [0]. Is it so unreasonable to be
| worried about that?
|
| Why make it easier for this to happen? : >
| First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--
| > Because I was not a socialist. > Then
| they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--
| > Because I was not a trade unionist. >
| Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- >
| Because I was not a Jew. > Then they came for me
| --and there was no one left to speak for me.
|
| - Martin Niemoller
|
| [0] Most of them wouldn't want to kill me personally. Just the
| nameless other that happens to match a lot about me.
| imoreno wrote:
| Privacy is a self-evident and basic human right, like freedom
| of expression. The principle of this is already acknowledged in
| law. For example, reading snail mail is very illegal, and
| nobody questions what harm would come from someone reading
| Grandmas "merry christmas" letter to you. It is only on the
| internet that violations of this right are turned a blind eye
| to, because of regulatory capture and government inertia.
| Regulators are slowly catching up (see GDPR) but in the
| meanwhile users are forced to take matters into their own
| hands.
|
| The data being collected is valuable, evidenced by the fact
| that an entire industry exists for it. It is collected without
| the users' consent (beyond the sham of "by using this website
| you agree to our terms" - by the way, legally speaking
| individuals cannot agree to give up their rights). The users
| are not compensated for the valuable information that is
| harvested from them.
|
| Lastly, many online service providers are cavalier with the
| security of this data. It is freely shared with hostile state
| actors (not necessarily western ones), predatory commercial
| third parties (spammers), and actual criminals. Due to lax
| security, criminals often gain access to this data and use it
| for identity theft, phishing and other fraud. People compile it
| in "social media background check" databases which exposes
| individuals, without their consent, to stalkers.
|
| There's not enough space in a comment to go over every single
| instance of privacy violations leading to serious consequences
| for users, such as those you claim do not exist, so to anyone
| interested I would recommend doing a web search on privacy
| related topics.
| matai_kolila wrote:
| So nothing; nothing actually happened, and so now we must
| invent moral outrage to sustain the hate cycle.
|
| Aren't you exhausted by all of this? Why continue to
| participate in the flywheel when you can otherwise simply
| reap the myriad benefits that come with a more connected
| society?
|
| It just seems like some folks prefer constantly being
| upset...
| zoul wrote:
| For me, the turning point was when I understood that my fairly
| inoccuous data like browsing history or post likes can be used
| to infer information that I would not share publicly.
| [deleted]
| ajvs wrote:
| It's a human right to have privacy. If you want to opt in to
| sharing everything about yourself to Big Tech and everyone else
| they sell data to then be my guest, but don't try to make it
| out to be a "fetish" to avoid this totally unnecessary data
| collection.
| pessimizer wrote:
| Is reverse voyeurism when you don't want everybody to look at
| you naked? Because I'm pretty sure most people suffer from
| that. It's similar to reverse murder and reverse fraud, when
| you don't kill people, and you tell them the truth.
| jmbwell wrote:
| I think the point of privacy is, it isn't anyone else's
| business why someone would care about it.
| emsign wrote:
| What happened to me? All the big social media sites send me to
| an information prison. It makes using the internet not fun
| anymore if you can't break out of your information bubble to
| get a different perspective! There's no "common knowledge"
| anymore and that development is fueled by people giving away
| their valuable data willy nilly. I just don't want that, I hate
| it actually and I think it's very dangerous tribalism and it's
| not has reached its peak yet, though more and more people get
| annoyed after noticing all these information prisons.
| matai_kolila wrote:
| I really don't think this take survives first contact with
| incognito mode...
| ozarker wrote:
| It's a matter of principle. If everybody were more concerned
| about their privacy there'd be less dark patterns from the
| these giant ad companies. Social media, Google, etc...
| tripple6 wrote:
| For Android I prefer Press (com.twentyfivesquares.press), a
| discontinued app I asked the creators to open the source code for
| a few years ago. Got ignored. Probably the only app known to me
| to categorize starred/read-later entries. Well, a couple of bugs
| (rare caching issues) and supporting already-dead services are
| not a big issue even after many years, however kind of reversing
| and modding it to make it support Inoreader or ttRSS would make
| me finally get rid of Feedly (seems still to support the original
| Google Reader API?) whose both web version and the app are you-
| know-what.
| mmplxx wrote:
| I've mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I like the
| uniformity and simplicity of RSS, its vibe of good old times and
| the ability to avoid ad-driven ranking algorithms. On the other
| hand, many media/content sources offer legitimately sophisticated
| recommendation systems that are more effective than having dozens
| of unranked high-frequency inputs a day in your RSS inbox. For
| sources with more curated and low-frequency output there is no
| trade-off, though.
| pessimizer wrote:
| There's no reason "legitimately sophisticated recommendation
| systems" can't offer RSS feeds.
| philip1209 wrote:
| I'm a fan of RSS and interoperability in general. That's why I
| added full-text RSS on Postcard [1] sites.
|
| Metrics-driven OKRs processes are at odds with privacy-first
| protocols. The sad reality at most companies is "if we can't
| measure it, we ain't gonna do it" - even if everybody is asking
| for it. This is why OKRs suck.
|
| So, I blame OKRs for getting rid of RSS and open protocols in
| general.
|
| [1] https://updates.postcard.page/posts/new-on-postcard-rss-
| easi...
| [deleted]
| cxr wrote:
| PSA: enable CORS[1] so people can make cross-origin requests
| without having to run a proxy.
|
| PSA #2: set things up so the author field of your feed includes
| your email address (e.g. "Alice <alice@example.org>") and not
| just your bare name, so people can more easily get in touch with
| you without having to click through to the original post and then
| hunt around for your contact page; otherwise, you might never
| find out it's broken[2].
|
| 1. <https://enable-cors.org>
|
| 2. <https://pointersgonewild.com/2019/11/02/they-might-never-
| tel...>
| dont__panic wrote:
| Curious why you recommend 1). Personally, I just don't use
| Javascript in my blog posts. But maybe I'm missing a use-case
| here?
|
| I should really add my email address to my news feed though.
| djbusby wrote:
| It's so my domain can request from your domain using client
| side JS on my page, loading your RSS with a cross origin
| request.
| cxr wrote:
| I don't understand your remark about "Javascript in my blog
| posts" or how it relates to CORS.
|
| In theory, it should be trivial to make simple, truly
| "serverless", web-based feed readers like AirSS[1][2]. In
| practice, many people are prevented from doing this, because
| the feeds they're interested in are hosted on servers that
| don't support CORS, which leads to really annoying
| workarounds (like needing to use a proxy or a separate
| browser extension, etc.)
|
| 1. <https://github.com/derek-zhou/airss>
|
| 2. <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28730630>
| dont__panic wrote:
| Makes sense. I should disable CORS on my blog, then! I
| normally use a dedicated feed reader, rather than a
| browser, but it makes sense to accommodate both use cases.
| [deleted]
| vanilla_nut wrote:
| For those of you wondering if your GitHub Pages site enables
| CORS: it does by default!
| bgro wrote:
| Can anybody recommend a RSS program that works on Windows that
| isn't terrible? Or that literally does the minimum requirement of
| works?
|
| I don't know what happened, but when I tried to find something
| earlier this year, it looked like there was nothing that was a
| simple RSS without extra bloat that wasn't abandonware and that
| actually literally worked.
|
| Every time I ask this, 90% of the answers just say use X Android
| app. Or I have to compile it myself from scratch with broken
| directions (and then find out it has been broken for years). Or
| it's like a docker image (thus requiring docker) or otherwise
| requires installing multiple gigabytes of random new languages.
| 5bolts wrote:
| haven't used a dedicated installed program in ages - as i
| browse on different machines at different times of day...
| Newsblur ticked a ton of boxes for me, moved from inoreader.
| ylk wrote:
| Thunderbird includes an RSS client
| timbit42 wrote:
| QuiteRSS for Windows, MacOS, Linux and OS/2.
|
| Flym for Android.
| jesuslop wrote:
| Nice to know that YouTube does RSS.
| bretbernhoft wrote:
| I did not know that YouTube offers RSS feeds for their
| channels. I can see a lot of good use cases for that
| information.
| kornhole wrote:
| You can also use https://api.invidious.io/ to get the feeds. I
| keep the Youtube feed since I just share button to Newpipe.
| From Newpipe I can send to Kodi for the big screen experience.
| emsign wrote:
| Yeah, I've cancelled all my subscriptions on YouTube and use a
| browser extension that hides recommendations and ads. I follow
| a lot of channels and there comes a point where I had to do
| something since I was missing videos constantly. When I want to
| watch YouTube I don't go to Youtube.com but open my RSS reader
| that links me directly to the videos.
| david2ndaccount wrote:
| It's one of those features that feels like someone forgot they
| support it and I fear the day when they remove it.
| Blikkentrekker wrote:
| Indeed; it doesn't feel as though it be in the interest of
| the website which is why support is dropping.
|
| Youtube wants people to subscribe, which I don't do, I simply
| add the RSS feed of channels I want to be updated about which
| is probably not what either Youtube or those channels want
| given how much they are begging me to subscribe all the time.
| sys_64738 wrote:
| Yeah this is great once you know about it. It changes how you
| use YouTube.
| edhelas wrote:
| If we have a RSS revival, please be Atom 1.0 :) !
| doublepg23 wrote:
| What are the differences between RSS and Atom?
|
| Most of my experience with RSS is just for podcasts.
| edhelas wrote:
| Atom 1.0 is strictly and well defined in https://www.rfc-
| editor.org/rfc/rfc5023
|
| RSS is a bunch of different "standards" and good practices,
| its way more difficult to parse and play with.
|
| They both have the same goal, but one is just cleaner and
| stricter :)
| jonwinstanley wrote:
| Didn't someone try to start a JSON based RSS standard a while
| back?
| johnsbrayton wrote:
| JSON Feed - https://www.jsonfeed.org/
| jeffgreco wrote:
| I make heavy use of https://kill-the-newsletter.com/ to convert
| e-mail newsletters into RSS feeds -- IMO the RSS reader context
| is way better than an email inbox for consuming newslettery
| content.
| john-tells-all wrote:
| that's amazing! Subscribing now.
|
| I'd love to find a "web2rss" for laggards that don't provide
| their own feeds :)
| yepguy wrote:
| Maybe try Feed me up, Scotty!
|
| [1]: https://feed-me-up-scotty.vincenttunru.com/
| locofocos wrote:
| I find it hilarious that a bit lower down, someone is
| discussing https://github.com/rss2email/rss2email to do the
| opposite of this.
| klysm wrote:
| I think people should be able to consume however they want.
| It seems easier to go RSS to email though.
| buzzy_hacker wrote:
| +1 I support this on Patreon. A nifty open source tool that you
| can self host if you like, but I've run into no issues with the
| hosted one
| diordiderot wrote:
| Wow! Very cool. Thank you for sharing
| teg4n_ wrote:
| feedbin gives you an email address to use for newsletters that
| will show up in your rss feed. it's also nice.
| superkuh wrote:
| HN is a great place to gather RSS feeds. Any time there's an
| interesting site I always look for them. These days I usually see
| articles that appear on the HN front page a day or so before they
| hit HN. But HN isn't the only place I practice this. Back in the
| 2010s it was obvious reddit was going under so I did the same
| there till 2015. I have 1000+ RSS feeds now and very little need
| for news aggregators on the day to day (except finding new
| feeds).
|
| QuiteRSS is an excellent native reader that handles my thousands
| of feeds well. It is so multi-platform it even has an OS/2
| version. https://quiterss.org/
| RadiozRadioz wrote:
| I do this too, but only started a few days ago. That's a lot of
| feeds you've collected, would you be open to sharing a list of
| them?
| vanilla_nut wrote:
| I post my list of subscriptions to my blog in OPML format:
| https://github.com/nathan-contino/nathan-
| contino.github.io/b... (github link, so you can preview it).
|
| If you like bicycles and simple tech stuff, you might enjoy.
| superkuh wrote:
| Sure. Here is the opml file and an HTML listing of the feed
| URLs and their website URL/name organized by categories:
| http://a.superkuh.com/feeds9.html and
| http://a.superkuh.com/2022-11-04-feedlist.opml This is my
| script to convert .opml to html unordered list,
| http://superkuh.com/regexopmltohtml.pl.txt
|
| Most HN sourced feeds are in the "Computing but not spammy"
| category.
|
| The first load of the big opml into QuiteRSS (if you try it)
| might take a while. After that it will be faster. I suggest
| enabling the "load database to ram" option in QuiteRSS
| configuration.
| noveltyaccount wrote:
| Good grief I struggle to keep up with _eight_ feeds in my RSS
| reader!
| moehm wrote:
| I see two use cases of an RSS reader. You can use them as a
| stream of news and just dive in when you want, or trying to
| read every article. I personally do a bit of both, mixing
| feeds, but with good tagging and filtering.
| MattyRad wrote:
| I've used RSS to follow all media for the past 2 years
| (FreshRSS+FeedMe, I have a guide here
| https://soapstone.mradford.com/hn-rss-guide/). It's been the
| single best thing I've done to reclaim my attention. Here's a
| couple of other random thoughts:
|
| - Being able to dismiss articles where the headline is the story
| is really valuable. For example, I just dismissed "Twitter's mass
| layoffs have begun (techcrunch.com)"- it's not worth my
| attention.
|
| - It's possible to accrue a large backlog of unread "semi-
| interesting" items that may or may not be valuable. In this
| sense, there's still a FOMO aspect to RSS, and you have to be
| aggressive in dismissing articles. For exmaple, a few 2-week-old
| backlog titles in my feed include "SHA-3 Buffer Overflow", "Show
| HN: Restfox - Open source lightweight alternative to Postman",
| and "Five origami books by Shuzo Fujimoto are now public domain".
| These are semi-interesting, but really I should just dismiss
| them.
| bibanez wrote:
| I really like your reasoning. The only problem I see is that if
| everyone did what you propose, we wouldn't have Hacker News at
| all (upvotes, in the end, must come from somewhere).
|
| So from a Kantian ethical point of view, it doesn't really
| work. There ought to be a better solution. But on a personal
| level, I wholeheartedly agree
| jayant_kaushik wrote:
| I use Inoreader. Terrific app. With RSS I am able to add feeds of
| websites which normally have a paywall.
| sys_64738 wrote:
| I've been using INO Reader since Google Reader Death Day and
| totally agree. Didn't know about the paywall. What does that
| mean?
| emsign wrote:
| Unfortunately it's a website and not a standalone app, so the
| privacy benefit of using RSS is gone.
| [deleted]
| mawise wrote:
| +1 for RSS, I leaned on RSS as my protocol-of-choice for
| Haven[1], and even added a built-in RSS feed-reader. It provides
| a single chronologically-ordered stream of content from all your
| feeds which I've found makes it much more pleasant to read
| through.
|
| [1]: https://havenweb.org
| vanilla_nut wrote:
| Brilliant! If you ever need help with this, I would love to
| pitch in. It reminds me of the olden days of social media.
|
| For users who don't know how to self host, and can't stomach
| the (very reasonable for ad-free social media) $5/mo... have
| you considered a cloud-hosted option with a sidebar of KTLO
| ads? Or maybe a "family plan" cloud instance where multiple
| friends could share a single cloud instance (sharded per
| person) to save money on the hosted option?
| rambambram wrote:
| Hi Matt, we've recently emailed about Haven and HeyHomepage
| because we both are RSS-based, so to speak. Your software is
| oriented towards private (group) communication and makes a
| strong case as an alternative for Facebook. I've a lot of
| respect for your product! With HeyHomepage I'm more publicly
| oriented, more Twitter-like if you will. On top of a publicly
| accessible website.
|
| The beauty of RSS is it's interoperability. So I was wondering,
| can your built-in newsreader also read my RSS feed, for
| example? Or only other Haven feeds?
|
| And the other way around, can I follow private feeds from Haven
| users with my built-in newsreader? Or any other separate
| newsreader software, for that matter? As long as Haven users
| would share that link with me, of course.
| dont__panic wrote:
| Thank you so much for sharing! I have considered this _exact_
| same idea to break my friends and family free from the chains
| of Facebook and Instagram, but you 've packaged this up so
| nicely, I should really give this a shot.
|
| Is there a way to update my own blog to play nicely with Haven?
| I like my own styling and hosting setup, and I already have my
| own RSS reader, so ideally I would like to continue using
| those, while also making them available to friends and family
| on Haven.
| breck wrote:
| https://scroll.pub/ has made RSS irrelevant.
|
| https://github.com/breck7/scroll/commit/0ca22e118e1cc9a79eb9...
| lloydatkinson wrote:
| Laughable
| breck wrote:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlta-dP9Tq4
| mYTtapS0 wrote:
| I recently started using RSS again (self-hosted with miniflux).
| One difficulty I have is that these kinds of RSS feeds in OP are
| way too high-volume for me. But it can be hard to find good blogs
| or RSS feeds without relying on Twitter to find them.
|
| Back in the day, more people used to include a list of blogs they
| follow on their own blogs, I thought this was a great practice. A
| few still do, like this very interesting blog on statistics:
| https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/blogs-i-read/
| ilyt wrote:
| > I recently started using RSS again (self-hosted with
| miniflux). One difficulty I have is that these kinds of RSS
| feeds in OP are way too high-volume for me. But it can be hard
| to find good blogs or RSS feeds without relying on Twitter to
| find them
|
| Filter them. For example I have Tested youtube channel on feed
| but put a filter on titles that gets most of the content Adam
| Savage makes (as I kinda don't care about anything else they
| do).
|
| Also, splitting into groups helps a lot, just putting "low
| volume but I want to see everything" stuff away from "just
| basically a news feed of on average mildly interesting stuff"
| hels
| rambambram wrote:
| > Back in the day, more people used to include a list of blogs
| they follow on their own blogs, I thought this was a great
| practice.
|
| I thought the same, and so I built a sort of webring/blogroll
| functionality in my website project, together with an
| accompanying OPML file so these lists are easily shareable. I
| did the same with a microblog/timeline, that had an RSS
| counterpart. The web is already 'social media', if you ask me.
| croutonwagon wrote:
| I keep HN in its own category and not a part of my normal
| unreads. So i have to go and see out HN threads and not have
| them clutter up the main feed. But still able to go through
| them.
| lwhsiao wrote:
| If you use a static site generator, there is a nice cli for
| doing that called openring. It's what is used by people like
| https://www.jefftk.com/ and https://drewdevault.com/.
|
| Drew wrote the OG version: https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/openring
|
| I also made a little rust version here:
| https://github.com/lukehsiao/openring-rs
| pletnes wrote:
| +1 for miniflux! It's great for low-volume, high-quality blogs.
| It's got features to keep track of more frequent updates too,
| if you can be bothered to categorize them.
| kixiQu wrote:
| I set my page length to something long (n>1000) and have a
| userscript that round-robin sorts the unread posts by feed,
| and it works pretty nicely for all but the _most_ high-volume
| (e.g. Boing Boing)
| https://maya.land/userscripts/miniflux/round-robin-sort/
| jollyllama wrote:
| You can follow twitter feeds in RSS via Nitter instances. Just
| place /rss after a profile URL.
| themadturk wrote:
| Feedbin lets you read Twitter as RSS feeds as well. US$5 a
| month, but well worth it to me.
| quickcheck wrote:
| If you go the self-hosted route you can also put RSS-Bridge on
| the same host to locally generate RSS feeds for a lot of
| sources that don't have RSS like Twitter
| https://github.com/RSS-Bridge/rss-bridge
| nazgulsenpai wrote:
| Feeder is a great GPL RSS reader for Android. Save you some time
| fumbling through the Google Play cess pool. Not affiliated just a
| happy user.
|
| https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.nononsenseapps.feeder/
| https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nononsense...
| account-5 wrote:
| Me too, one of the first things I install on a new phone,after
| fdroid of course.
| lallysingh wrote:
| I pay for Feedly. The big feature I love is that it will
| generate anonymous email addresses for newsletters that show up
| as just another feed.
| ozarker wrote:
| For iOS I really like Reeder
| dont__panic wrote:
| For iOS folks, I can't recommend NetNewsWire more. I pair NNW
| on my phone and laptop with Fresh.RSS running on my raspberry
| pi for most of my news and blog feeds these days.
|
| HN nerds might remember that NNW is very fast, even by native
| macOS standards: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23286362
|
| If you're feeling fatigued by algorithmic nonsense these days,
| you should seriously give RSS a try.
| cxr wrote:
| > fatigued by algorithmic nonsense
|
| Let's not participate in the corruption of the word
| "algorithm" here on HN, too. We wouldn't tolerate people
| saying "integral" when they mean "derivative", so we
| shouldn't tolerate this, either. We can afford to abstain
| from this sort of quick-and-easy but sloppy use of language
| as a shorthand for generic memetic outrage.
| ascagnel_ wrote:
| And if you're looking to move off of the Twitter app, NNW has
| a built-in tool to ingest Twitter timelines and searches (you
| still need to sign in to use Twitter's API).
| simonw wrote:
| +1 for this: the NetNewsWire Mac and iPhone combo, which
| syncs state using iCloud, is exactly the right feed reader
| solution for me. Just works.
| [deleted]
| pkulak wrote:
| If you're inclined to self-host (or can just run a Docker-
| compose anywhere on your network), MiniFlux is amazing.
| croutonwagon wrote:
| Agree. Been using it for a while now after.
| lolinder wrote:
| I tried using a local-only RSS reader after ditching Feedly,
| but I found myself missing the ability to easily switch between
| devices.
|
| I ended up setting up a FreshRSS[0] instance which I've been
| quite happy with so far. It provides the Google Reader API,
| which is still supported by a lot of FOSS mobile RSS readers (I
| picked Readrops[1]).
|
| [0] https://www.freshrss.org/
|
| [1] https://github.com/readrops/Readrops
| croutonwagon wrote:
| Personally I use miniflux. Not app needed for iOS or otherwise.
| Its pretty nice. You can also host it wherever.
|
| https://miniflux.app/
| account-5 wrote:
| I love RSS/atom feeds. One thing I'm wondering though, RSS is is
| XML based. Most things are/have moved to JSON (RPC really more
| than REST). My question is why is XML still good for this use
| case? Genuinely interested.
| ZeroGravitas wrote:
| https://www.jsonfeed.org/
|
| Is an attempt to move these to json.
| dinosaurdynasty wrote:
| JSON Feed is a thing, not many websites that support RSS
| support it however.
| cxr wrote:
| Little-known trick:
|
| You can add an `xml-stylesheet` processing instruction at the
| top of your XML-based feed format to transform it via XSLT into
| HTML. When viewed in a Web browser, it will look like an
| ordinary Web page, but in reality it's actually RSS/Atom
| consumable by anyone's feed reader. Nobody has to hunt for the
| URL to the RSS/Atom feed, because the URL of the top-level post
| index for your blog _is_ the URL to the RSS /Atom feed. You
| also don't have to set up your static site generator to
| generate a separate feed file. Neat!
|
| Can't do that with JSON.
| ilyt wrote:
| It's not better or worse, it was just first. I guess having
| schemas in standard rather than some kind of addon like for
| JSON is a benefit but not really that relevant, schema doesn't
| help all that much if you make bad RSS stream anyway.
| bsnnkv wrote:
| I'm a big fan of RSS and curate a number of topic-specific feeds
| of highlights available for people to subscribe to (in my profile
| for anyone who is interested).
|
| I wish more feeds had this kind of focus- sharing the meat of
| something in the item body rather than a bland summary or a plain
| click through to an article.
|
| The feed item should give me a reason to go through to the
| article/link/comment, not just be a spammy list of things that
| might be interesting but probably won't be (but I won't know
| until I click through and find out for myself).
| CodeWriter23 wrote:
| Didn't podcasting start out with self-publishing links via your
| own website and end up a "platform" owned by various aggregators,
| and the links are tracked and redirected with maybe a little CDN
| baked in?
| axiolite wrote:
| A good RSS reader is like a DVR for everything else (text,
| images, audio).
| kornhole wrote:
| I moved all my feeds to Nextcloud News which is just one of a
| dozen or so add-ons I setup on my Nextcloud server. The official
| free mobile app is awesome, and Nextcloud syncs with just about
| any feed reader.
|
| My only hesitation about Nextcloud is that I don't like to put
| too many eggs in one basket. It is best in class for cloud
| services and now my most critical installation. Their innovation
| and drive as a company is impressive probably because they have
| real values that align with their people.
| NoboruWataya wrote:
| Does anyone use (or know of) software that follows RSS feeds and
| sends you a single daily/weekly/whatever digest with links to all
| new posts? TinyTinyRSS has this functionality which I am
| currently using but it's not very pretty or configurable - I'm
| wondering if there is anything else that I could look into.
| variant wrote:
| Doesn't do a digest (at least not that I'm aware of), but
| rss2email[1] does a good job of aggregating feed updates into
| your email inbox.
|
| [1] https://github.com/rss2email/rss2email
| zacharytalis wrote:
| I'm also working on a tool to do this:
| https://github.com/ZacharyTalis/rss-digest-flask/
|
| Though I'm running into a stubborn issue where FreshRSS doesn't
| parse the date correctly... so your mileage may vary.
| asdfqwertzxcv wrote:
| Been using https://feedmail.org/ to do exactly this.
| charlieegan3 wrote:
| You might be able to get what you need with IFTTT or Zapier.
| They have email digests and support RSS triggers.
| aliceryhl wrote:
| I wrote my own program that submits new RSS entries to my
| todoist account once each night.
| funksta wrote:
| I am building something like this! It's oriented specifically
| towards reading the feeds via a pdf digest on eReaders like the
| reMarkable/Supernote/etc though.
|
| 1. configure your feeds (RSS/Atom, but also Twitter/Reddit) in
| a simple dashboard 2. connect Google Drive (Dropbox/OneDrive to
| be supported eventually) 3. on a daily schedule, a pdf file
| with your feeds' content will be sent to your GDrive account,
| which can be synced on your tablet device.
|
| If interested, I've got a survey you can fill out to get alpha
| access: https://forms.gle/qmy6WMgHLxWiEgx4A
| mab122 wrote:
| Project mentioned in the article is being discontinued
| unfortunately: https://bibliogram.art/ - Discontinuing Bibliogram
| (2022-09-01)
| alexmorenobaeza wrote:
| aaa
| verisimi wrote:
| The story of RSS is so telling.
|
| I loved Google for the way that promoted it so heavily. I thought
| that it was conceivable that a corporation need not be evil.....
| How naive!
|
| But then Google dropped rss! Just when they had everyone there!!
| Why?
|
| It was by design. It was an attempt to kill a protocol that
| supported disintermediated information, where the user could get
| information directly from source.
|
| I've never stopped using rss - it is hands down the best way to
| get information.
| diordiderot wrote:
| I'm kind of a JSON maximalist because I find it really simple and
| haven't put too much thought into it.
|
| I'd also like to shout out
|
| https://www.jsonfeed.org/
|
| https://jsonresume.org/
|
| https://tomcritchlow.com/2020/04/15/library-json/
|
| https://geojson.org/
|
| It'd be pretty cool to have an ecosystem where you could
|
| ```
|
| $ packagemanger init my-site password
|
| $ hostOfChoice deploy
|
| ```
|
| Go to the url, auth yourself, then have a list of "plugins" that
| act as a ~cms for formats like the ones above
|
| Edit: Could you at least tell me why you're downvoting
| quintussss wrote:
| I don't get why anybody would want a json feed. RSS/Atom are
| already simple to the point of being trivial, so why introduce
| more standards?
| jonwinstanley wrote:
| JSON is more readable to humans, while still being great for
| machines
| SahAssar wrote:
| XML is a far more complex format to parse.
| diordiderot wrote:
| For me personally, two reasons
|
| 1. I find it easier to work with JSON using javascript
|
| 2. The stupid reason, I find it more aesthetically pleasing
| kixiQu wrote:
| You're not exactly wrong - I don't serve out a json feed
| myself, even - but RSS/Atom are terribly underused for cases
| other than "personal organization of feed reading" when they
| _could_ handle a lot of weirder poll-for-updates automation,
| and the json format seems like an attempt to encourage that
| direction. You don 't need a bespoke API if what you have
| makes sense in a feed like this, but people would really
| rather work with a json than XML.
| jordemort wrote:
| I'm a structured data maximalist so in addition to RSS and
| Atom, I implemented Schema.org metadata on my blog for
| GoogleBot, and I implemented JSON Feed and h-feed/h-entry
| markup, even though I've never seen anything that actually uses
| JSON Feed out in the wild. I'd be interested if there's anyone
| out there that's actually using these sorts of feeds.
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