[HN Gopher] Ask HN: License to prohibit training of systems like...
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       Ask HN: License to prohibit training of systems like Microsoft
       Copilot
        
       We want to modify the BSD 2-Clause Open Source License to
       explicitly prohibit the use of the licensed software in the
       training of systems like Microsoft's Copilot. We also want to
       prohibit use during inference.  Question: How should the third
       clause be worded, below?                 The No-AI 3-Clause Open
       Source Software License            Copyright (C) <YEAR> <COPYRIGHT
       HOLDER>            All rights reserved.            Redistribution
       and use in source and binary forms, with or without
       modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
       are met:            1. Redistributions of source code must retain
       the above copyright          notice, this list of conditions and
       the following disclaimer.            2. Redistributions in binary
       form must reproduce the above copyright          notice, this list
       of conditions and the following disclaimer in          the
       documentation and/or other materials provided with the
       distribution.            3. Use in source or binary forms for the
       construction or operation          of predictive software
       generation systems is prohibited.            THIS SOFTWARE IS
       PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS       "AS IS"
       AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT
       LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS
       FOR       A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL
       THE COPYRIGHT       HOLDER OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY
       DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL,       SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR
       CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT       LIMITED TO,
       PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE,
       DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON
       ANY       THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT
       LIABILITY, OR TORT       (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE)
       ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE       OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF
       ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.       The above is a
       verbatim (word-for-word) copy of the BSD 2-Clause Open Source
       License, except for the addition of a third clause:
       3. Use in source or binary forms for the construction or operation
       of predictive software generation systems is prohibited.
        
       Author : bugfix-66
       Score  : 9 points
       Date   : 2022-11-03 21:58 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
       | ronsor wrote:
       | These AI systems are all riding on fair use anyway (at least for
       | now), so it doesn't matter what license you choose because
       | they're never accepting it in the first place.
        
         | bugfix-66 wrote:
         | Law-abiding companies like Microsoft won't knowingly violate a
         | license.
         | 
         | The GPL defeats Copilot. Microsoft makes an effort to exclude
         | all GPL software from its training.
         | 
         | What we need is a more permissive MIT- or BSD-style license
         | that defeats Copilot.
         | 
         | We just need to convince law-abiding companies that they
         | shouldn't use the code.
        
       | gshdiwuehdhwu wrote:
       | agpl3
       | 
       | they will have to open source all code and data that produced the
       | derivative work.
       | 
       | why reinvent the wheel?
        
         | bugfix-66 wrote:
         | We need a more permissive MIT- or BSD-style license.
         | 
         | The GPL is good for some purposes, but too restrictive.
        
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